Car Advice

Total Recall – How will Toyota’s recall dramas affect its reputation?

By John Cadogan |

Everyone not dead from the neck up over these past 18 months will know Toyota’s been in the news lately.

A year or so ago, it was all good – a predictably ‘Toyota’ outcome. GM fell flat on its face and became, essentially, a US Government department (okay, that’s taking it a bit far) and the Big T leapfrogged it to become the world’s number one car maker, with a production capacity of about 10 million vehicles.

Volkswagen, with its sights set on world domination, issued bold statements about overtaking Toyota to become the world number one by 2018 (VW was in a position to do that after it threw Porsche on the mat for a three-count after the bespoke sports car manufacturer’s failed attempt to do the David vs Goliath bid there).

About the same time, the new Prius, which is built in a factory with grass on the roof, in production lines capable of spitting out a Prius in under a minute, 24/7, nudged Honda’s Insight aside to become Japan’s top-selling car – a position it has enjoyed basically every month since. It even topped out 2009 with the Prius as Japan’s top seller.

And then the bad news kicked in. A former top in-house lawyer for Toyota named Dimitrios Biller alleged that the company covered up, or failed to produce, evidence in dozens of litigation claims. The lawsuit made quite a splash, but appears to have fizzled out.

A US family in a Lexus borrowed from a dealership found themselves on the freeway with the accelerator jammed to the floor at high speed. Despite having the presence of mind to dial 911, they lacked the smarts to simply nudge the transmission into neutral or just shut the engine down. They died in a harrowing high-speed crash, with the audio recorded like all 911 calls, and then released to the media.

Defective floor mats were allegedly to blame. At least at first, when similar reports of uncommanded acceleration started to filter through. An incredible two-point-something million cars were slated for recall. And then more and more. The problem metastasised around the world, and the total now stands at more than eight million cars.

You look up in the night sky, and some smart-ass says there’s 20 trillion stars up there. You go: “Yeah.” Someone says eight million cars, you go: “Yeah.” Like, it’s a lot, but how do you quantify eight million cars?

Like this. If you need a five-metre-long space to park a car, then eight million cars stretches 40 million metres, which is 40,000km – the approximate circumference of planet Earth. It’s also a traffic jam stretching from Sydney to Perth – 10 lanes wide.

It transpires that the problem’s no longer just floor mats, either. It’s accelerator pedals that are too long, and a lack of ‘deconfliction’ software in the ECU (lines of code that say if the brakes are on, best throttle off the engine). Both of those fixes are now under way as well.

So, happy days … except for the Tacoma, which has a recall about its driveshafts, which are potential failures looking for a place to happen.

And then there’s the Prius, which appears to have defective code in the braking software – at least on some models.

There’s also the allegations brought to bear that the company didn’t act quickly enough on the sticky accelerator front, and those matters are still in the pending tray.

It’d be fair to say that it is not a happy time to be in a board meeting at Toyota HQ. Reputation-rebuilding will be high on the agenda over coming months, and billions will be spent cleverly re-establishing the Big T’s position as the grand high poobah of quality and reliability.

The media has certainly smelled blood – I mean, we are talking about the biggest recall in automotive history. That’s newsworthy. But is it good policy to give a company a kick for doing the right thing? It’s easy to forget recalls are an ethical way for a car company to conduct business.

Much better on the moral front than, say, keeping quiet and settling liability claims out of court, with watertight confidentiality agreements ensuring the problem never gets the oxygen of publicity.

Toyota is spending millions on recalls – and not all of the vehicles fixed would ever have become defective. The company is overwhelmingly fixing potential problems only. And they’re doing it out in the open, in the public domain, with their reputation taking a beating.

I’m not an apologist for Toyota, but the company really seems to be pulling out all the stops to rectify the problems. I haven’t always agreed with the way the do business. For example, leaving ESP off the current Corolla for months after it was first introduced was, literally, a crime against humanity, in my view.

The big winners out of all of this have been companies like Ford, GM and Honda. In the US, GM and Ford sales surged in January by the same amount Toyota’s fell – a ballpark figure of about 20 per cent in each case. And Honda? Well, Honda’s had its own highly ethical recall underway – hundreds of thousands of vehicles with a potentially (note that word) defective airbag inflator module, a part Honda does not even manufacture itself. Luckily, the Honda recall is dwarfed by Toyota’s recall woes by more than an order of magnitude, and it has hardly blipped on the media radar.

Finally, recalls are a standard way of doing business in the car industry (and other industries). It’s understandable, perhaps, why customers expect perfection – just look at the way cars are marketed. But it’s also unreasonable, because cars are complex machines and problems are unavoidable.

The big question is: How much damage will the recall and the attendant media coverage do Toyota? Some commentators are smelling blood, but I reckon the damage is all short-term. It might come as something of a shock, but most of the world is not made up of car nuts like us. Most people don’t even bother to hear news about cars – until they’re in the market for their next car. That’s the only time their ears are to the ground, automotively. And that’s the majority of people Toyota sells cars to.

So, people in the market now might have some reservations. They might even buy a Honda or a Mazda, or even a Hyundai or a Kia instead of a Toyota – right now.

But in six months’ time, when Jethro and Cletus Kettle take the long drive down off Walton Mountain and trade in their seventh Camry at the local dealer, one guess what they’ll end up driving home? That’s the kind of brand and customer loyalty Toyota is banking on.


 
  • gazza

    Well said car advice toyota has been ridiculed by the media for simply being the biggest & best, the best at what they do and the best at recalling every car they feel is a potential problem a lot can be said for that because a hell of a lot of manufacturers both in amercia & australia WONT DO WHAT TOYOTA HAS DONE! Ford recalled 12 million cars in 2008 the world’s biggest recall with hardly any media avalanche, Ford australia with potentially deadly territory brakes have had a problem since day 1, commodore fuel fillers falling off and great wall car company seat belts breaking and i could go on & on, recalls are part of the manufacturing process they are a day to day way of making all cars safe & trouble free! TOYOTA STILL ARE THE SAFEST & MOST RELIABLE CARS ON THE ROADS.

    • Alan

      Here, here!
      The current biggest recall goes to Ford for the cruise control break de-activation switch which is hydraulic and sometimes leaks. This leak can (and does) lead to vehicle and garage/house fires. To date about 16 million vehicles have been recalled over a decade long period, some twice to re-fix the fix. Ford seems unable to design the problem out. Where is the media attention to this ongoing problem?
      All car manufacturers have recalls. It is in the nature of the ever more complex beast.

    • blitzkrieg

      I would argue that BMW,Mercedes,Volvo and Subaru are the safest cars on the road and not Toyota

      • Steve-Poyza

        Don’t forget Renault.

    • LessQQ

      The example in this article just highlights the stupidity of the American drivers who’ve had accidents/died when their Toyota’s pedals got stuck.

      How can you have time for a chat, pray to God and call 911 but not be able to put your car into neutral or turn the ignition off, OR slow the car with a handbrake? WTF, how did these people get their driving licences?

      E-brakes are mechanical and not controlled electronically, whether the engine is on/off, the e-brake works the same way, just like the brakes on your bike, that’s why its called an ‘e-brake’ – emergency brake.

      Some might say that the Toyotas had push-start ignition, that’s still no excuse for not reading the owners manual which specifies if you hold the push-start button for 5seconds it will shut off the engine. Likewise, unintended acceleration doesn’t put a hammer to your head and disable the drivers ability to push the tranny into neutral.

      Honestly, the lack of knowledge shown by these drivers are astounding, they are the real danger on the roads. Toyota did America a favour to weed out the mentally paralysed.

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    GREAT ARTICLE..

    I reckon the real issue is “did toyota willingly cover up this issue”.if the answer is yes,then it would be reasonable to assume that someone’s going to jail for a while…

    • LessQQ

      Don’t be naive.

      Who went to jail after the AWB affair?

  • john

    IMO the recalls have had a major impact on toyotas reputation. Toyota provide reliable A – B transport and a perceived level of quality. For these attributes they charge a premium. Usually the toyota product is not best in class in any area and they are more expensive than other offerings. Take away their whole quality mantra and what is toyota left with? IMO a bunch of boring as “watching as paint dry” cars with high prices in their respective segments!

  • Stephen

    Toyota Have been ridiculed with Problems over the Last 18months. Toyota are not the safest and most reliable cars on the market. Most lack airbags and ‘proven stability control methods’ Vechicle stability control is no were near as superior in terms of accuracy and feel to Manufacuturers like BMW, Audi and Mitsubishi with ACTIVE STABILITY CONTROL. If your not sure what I mean, throw a Toyota into a corner and then try it in a Mitsubishi etc.

    To the above comment, did you know 45,000 toyota Yaris’s were recalled 13 months ago for ‘catching fire’ in multible different nations…

    Toyota are an overpriced Badge on the market

    • gazza

      How many yaris actually caught on fire? 1 & no recall in australia! once again toyota doing the right thing with recalls, How many honda airbags blew up in peoples faces?

      • The Oracle’s Teacher

        You’re obviously a toyota fanboy. The post above yours by Stephen is the accurate one. They have lagged behind everyone else on safety fitment whilst hiding behind inflated prices. The least this recall will do is crop their arrogance and that should feed into Toyota actually have to compete on price/spec rather than some misguided tripe about reliability.

        The whole world is watching. They are no longer renowned for reliability. So many people bought that crap it ain’t funny. They never finish at the top of custmoer satisfaction surveys. Why is that?

        • gazza

          What customer satisfaction surveys are you reading HOLDEN/DAIWOO? Every independent survey i have ever seen has toyota at the top or near top!

          • The Oracle’s Teacher

            The USA is their biggest market. Lexus (which technically is an upmarket brand and not toyota) and Hyundai rate above them in the USA. That’s right, hyundai. In Australia last year they ranked fourth. Mazda was no1.

            Toyota have been slowly sliding down the lists for the past 5 years. The biggest killer in owner surveys is value for money. Second is reliability. I am guessing that owners have started to see what comes standard in cheaper cars in the neighbours driveway? If it wasn’t for the hilux you’d have seen their market share slide in the past two years. Last year it was propped up by the government’s 50 percent tax break . Fleets rushed out and bought shed loads of hilux and Corollas. Typically toyota are last to bring advanced features like ESP etc to their vehicles.

            They were one of the last to get rid of lap sash seatbelts in the middle rear of their vehicles. They are so profit driven that the obsession took over from function.

          • GoHyundai

            It’s Daewoo, not Daiwoo.

  • CrustyTheClown

    BigT have done exactly what Mitsubishi did a few years ago, took a punt that *issues* would not be found, alas most of the times it has worked, not this time.

    Just fix every single vehicle Toyota, give customers a good-will $2500 rebate on a new Toyota, pay a fine for being naughty and more on.

    Who will be caught next?

    C.T.C

  • Darren

    Toyota has its own production method called “Toyota Way”. I think they even have a uni course for it in Japan. Toyota way is a very strict and very efficient production method. A worker is trained to spot faults when the car is still in the production line. A lowest rank worker can pull the string and stop the whole production line if he found even the tiniest fault. That is the reason why Toyota is so proud of their products and their reliability.

    However Toyota does not produce every parts of a car. The Toyota Way does not extend to its part suppliers. A worker wasn’t trained to spot such faults that they are having now. Moreover, Toyota leaders have become very confident and arrogant over the years because of their success. They think they are invincible. They slacked off a bit. I know because our company supply airbags to Toyota. We did use Toyota Way but did not use all of it. (I assure you your airbags are safe with us :D ). So, that is where the Toyota’s downfall starts.

    • gazza

      The company that made the sticky accelerator pedals for toyota in america only 5% of there total production goes to toyota products! Where does the other 95% go??? TOYOTA WILL NOT BE THE ONLY ONE WITH PROBLEMS!

  • Bud

    I’d bet alot more people died from the Ford Explorer rollover problem than this Toyota accelerator problem and every car maker tries to avoid recalls if at all possible, nothing new here. This is just the media creating and over hyping a non-story.

    • Alan

      Interesting reading on Wikipedia re Ford/Firestone recall. Quote “Many rollovers cause serious injury and even death; it has been estimated that over 250 deaths and more than 3,000 serious injuries resulted from these failures.” unquote.
      Makes Toyota’s problems seem small in comparison.

      • gman

        Does it tell you how much it cost them and what happened to firestone tyres who where making the parts in question, more than toyota. This still effects the brand today, one life is to many and if toyota thought about the backlash over the firestone debarkle they might not of got this sloppy.

  • Harvey

    I worked for Toyota for almost 40 years before retiring and they have always been po-active to the point of being, in my opinion,pedantic. We would hear a report of some minor Customer Concern and they, the Factory would be right on to it. One or two reports and they would sometimes contact hundreds of Customers with vehicles either side of the subject Chassis numbers and get the vehicles in for checking. These programs were called “CSEs”, Customer Service Exercises. True Customer Service!!

    Recalls were rare, These being Safety items which had to be registered with the National Authorities. Even then many more Owners of vehicles were contacted in my experience than was necessary. For example if a particular Production period was involved, say 1 or 2 days then vehicles produced for a week either side would be inspected. again “True Customer Service”.

  • HyundaiSmoke

    If Toyota stopped making bad quality vehicles, they wouldn’t be in this situation. Hyundai have been 100% diligent in producing world-class cars and vans — they have # 1 reliability, quality, ergonomics, styling and handling.

    Toyota = Cheap Chinese Crap (CCC; a new acronym ladies and gentleman, pleas use it).

    Hundai = best, even better qaulity than Mercedes.

    • gazza

      Is that why 46,000 sonatas just got recalled thats a lot for a small car maker!

      • ABMPSV

        Hyundai is the 4th biggest car company in the world!!!

      • GoHyundai

        you’re comparing hyundai’s “thousands” of recalls…to toyota’s MILLIONS of recalls?

        you’re comparing THIS hyundai’s >>> The problem occurs when the front seat passenger tries to open the door from the inside while holding down the lock button.

        with toyota’s…go to youtube and type in “toyota 911″ and listen to the 911 call made…

    • bfarnickle

      but toyota are japanese, not chinese.

      so it really should be Boring Japanese Implements because

      1. they’re not cheap
      2. they’re not japanese
      3. they’re not really crap, just boring…

      btw, my mum had more things go wrong in her 2004 elantra with 50,000km on the clock than i did when i had my 1991 corolla with 270,000km on the clock.

    • blitzkrieg

      Hyundaismoke, your kidding with that comment aren’t you?
      Ask any person on the the street what they think of Hyundai,i highly doubt that
      ergonomics,styling and handling are words you would hear in reply.That’s simply not what Hyudiai is renowned for.Cheap and cheerful,yes,but better quality than mercedes, you should be embarrassed to make such a statement.

      • GoHyundai

        regards to your “thought or knowledge” of quality…

        you have heaps to learn about quality…

        jd power dot com

      • CrustyTheClown

        AMEN!

        In a nutshell totally correct, hyundai is just a modern day version of GreatWall/Geely Chinese jobs, nothing more

      • Bob

        This might be off-topic, but its in agreement to Blitzkieg about Hyundais. I was reading an editorial in “another” motoring publication (although this is not technically a publication, its a blog, but I digress).

        The editor commented about a recent trip to Korea where he was surprised to find something which explained why Korean cars lack any driving involvement and fail to invoke any passion. Most of the car engineers working at Hyundai on the current models not only don’t drive to work, they DON’T DRIVE AT ALL. No licences. Amazing stuff. Its a cultural thing in Korea. He claimed that instead of pics of dream cars as screen savers, they had lovely landscapes.

        So in this editors words, they don’t understand the difference between operating a motor vehicle and driving a car. They could be making toasters each day when they go to work for all they care.

        • GoHyundai

          HAHAHAHAHA

          Toyota is calling,

          your brain needs a recall,

        • GoHyundai

          you think hyundai is korean only made korean only what korean only designed korean korean everything??? hahahahaha

          RE: “They could be making toasters each day when they go to work for all they care.”

          “they” as in TOYOTA? yea i agree.
          RIP to those who drove toyota toasters and got toasted…

          • LessQQ

            Whats with Koreans and their short term memory loss?

            Have you forgotten how badly pounded you were by the Japs in WW2? And then by the Chinese in the Korean war.

            Do you honestly think you can stand up to Japanese innovation or the mass and brute force of China?

            Please, South Korea could be wiped off the map anytime by North Korea, I’d stick to mending my own fence before trying to play superhero.

            Hyundai has reached its peak, it will never be the forefront of anything like the Japs and in the future the Chinese.

    • GoHyundai

      Ummm…I’m not Chinese…and I’m definitely no China-lover
      but calling TOYOTA = Cheap chinese crap was very…
      Cheap crap, yes.
      Cheap Chinese crap? no.

  • HyundaiSmoke

    In the US of A, where I live – Hyundai are having a sales resurgence. People here are smart enough to not buy unreliable cars. Last month, Toyota sales went down 20% – Hyundai went up 30%.

    Hyundai represents the new class of world class. This is something else that Toyota will relentlessly pursue, but fail badly as they are far too smug and special to do any better than sell unreliable cars, with bad styling, handling, and crappy Chinese quality.

    A message to all you Austrians ——— spread the word about Hyundai – you don’t know what you guys are missing out on.

    • The Other Brad

      We’re not Austrian ;)

      Oh and Hyundai just had a recall with a door malfunction causing a door to remain unlatched when closing it on the 2011 Sonata.

      • HyundaiSmoke

        He’s a clone. I wouldnt dare call you Austrians mate, as I dont have a problem with the Australian people.

        By the way, I know abou the Sonatas, not a big deal just 5000 units, and for a Sonata that’s nothing. Its not like its a Toyotathon of death problem.

        • HyundaiSmoke

          Nor did our Government enact a Cease and Desist Order like some other Companies. It was a dealer spotted problem and Hyundai took care of business. Sonata was on sale for a day. Ots not even a life threatening problem. The worst that could have happened is if somebody locked themselves out of their car.

          This was a PR wonder for Hyundai, which I think that’s sweet!!!

        • The Other Brad

          Not too fussed about being called Austrian. Get euros connecting to Australian game servers all the time thinking it’s an Austrian server ;)

          Anyways back on topic.

          Yes of course the recall will affect their reputation. They’ll just have to work extra hard to slowly regain it again. Upside is, it’s also a wake up call to the rest of the auto industry to improve their QA so hopefully nothing like this will happen again.. for a while.

          • HyundaiSmoke

            Not really, its one of those nobody cares things, and especially since Hyundai caught it on day one. It tells people that Hyundai is so concerned about quality, they would stop the sale of Sonata, which is getting rave reviews saying it slaughters Camry, Sebring, Malibu, Fusion, Altima, Accord, etc…… while comparing it to Lexus ES350.

            Toyota never stopped sales of the recalled products until the government told them to stop. That says a lot more to people about what they really think about quality,

          • The Other Brad

            Regarding affecting their rep, I was talking about Toyota’s. I think you think I was talking about Hyundai =)

          • HyundaiSmoke

            Yeah, pretty much.

      • GoHyundai

        the other brad:
        you mean Hyundai’s recall of
        “The problem occurs when the front seat passenger tries to open the door from the inside while holding down the lock button.”

        ok…my turn to TRY OPEN THE DOOR FROM THE INSIDE WHILE HOLDING DOWN THE LOCK BUTTON…lol

    • Hayzel

      You said that you live in USA yet your grammar and use of punctuations obviously imply that you are a Korean or others lacking in the knowledge and use of proper English.

      • GoHyundai

        ummm

        have a look at your engrish first mate,

        i feel so sorry you…

        hugs

      • LessQQ

        He’s an illegal immigrant, his parents prolly escaped to the US to run away from the Korean war.

  • AAA

    I hope that Toyota’s repuation is affected big time so that I could get a brand new Toyota for 20% off the RRP … checking out the Toyota dealers’ websites now ~

    • The Other Brad

      Toyota pricing hasn’t changed at all as far as I can tell in Australia.

      • gazza

        Why should it? The recalls in america does not affect any cars in australia & only 2 prius had a slight brake abs activation! Toyota is still australia’s favorite car & the resale value king and that will not change in australia. We must source or local content from better quality supplier’s, good old australian workmanship!

        • Devil’s Advocate

          Yes, Toyota may be the highest selling brand in Australia, but when you classify “Australia’s favourite car/brand” as the brand that most PRIVATE buyers put their OWN money into (ie, not fleets etc), that brand my friend is Mazda. Not bad for one of the smallest manufacturers in the top ten in the Australian market. Also saying that Toyota is the “resale value king” is going a little overboard. There are many Hondas/Mazdas/Subarus/HSVs/VWs to name a few that have a higher resale value than most Toyotas. Compare the resale of a Honda Accord Euro or Mazda 6 to a Camry just as an example. Toyota may have the highest resale value in your fantasy world, but in the real world where the rest of us live, they are good but not the “king”.

        • GoHyundai

          you sound white-washed.

          (and toyota-washed)

        • http://n/a cletis

          resale my ass camry ,,,nowhere money sink if you ask me

    • GoHyundai

      you deserve more than 20% off the RRP,

      RRP isn’t worth RIP,

      • http://n/a cletis

        i feel like pizza

        • GoHyundai

          chicken and fetta?

          which one should i order?

          • LessQQ

            u can keep the change.

            go feed ur korean family, hahaha

            hows uncle kim?

  • matt

    “I’m not an apologist for Toyota, but the company really seems to be pulling out all the stops to rectify the problems. I haven’t always agreed with the way the do business. For example, leaving ESP off the current Corolla for months after it was first introduced was, literally, a crime against humanity, in my view”

    NO…. a crime against humaity is apparently covering this issue up for 9 years… these incidents go back that far, now they have been FORCED to look at the issue by the US gov. All it seems all that toyoco were interested in was expansion to keep shreholders happy by becoming the “biggest” car manufacturer in the world

    • gazza

      9 years what rubbish! how long has ford covered up its cruise control problem, 20 years+? Cars & houses burning down as a result, i see you failed to bring that one up a disaster for american manufacturing 12 million cars & still counting! Ford was FORCED to act!

    • gazza

      MATT go to “consumeraffairs.com” under “ford to recall millions to fix fire danger” ford have been covering that one up since the 1992 econoline! NOW THAT’S A COVER UP!

      • Hayzel

        Gazza m8 you are a Zealot for Toyota we get it but no matter what you say people’s opinion of the brand won’t change. Stop trying.

  • Classic

    Really looking forward to hearing some info about the 46,000 Hyundai Sonatas being recalled in Korea today from you guys :-)

    • Toyota worshiper

      His stunned silence is very reassuring.

    • GoHyundai

      The problem occurs when the front seat passenger tries to open the door from the inside while holding down the lock button.
      The problem occurs when the front seat passenger tries to open the door from the inside while holding down the lock button.
      The problem occurs when the front seat passenger tries to open the door from the inside while holding down the lock button.
      lol

  • MazMagic

    There is one fact: “Toyota have stuffed up”. Sure, you can justify why Toyota is still a good choice, but you cannot deny this fact or blame the US government.

    Toyotas are reliable cars(I used to own one), but are they safe cars? For example, when I bought my Toyota, they claimed it to be one of the safest cars at the time based on EuroNCAP. However, down the track, I discovered it the safety was below par, hence sold it and got the Maz3. Perhaps my next car will be European – but then they have their own problems.

    Best answer to the question: WALK…..

    • Tinman

      I’m not sure if walking is the safest answer, with all those toyotas driving past!

      • GoHyundai

        I’ll just run instead lol

  • Chucky

    I agree : short term effect. Most people dont even care about this as they are not yet in the frame of mind to buy cars. Sad but I believe its true. When they do buy, most will say …well, they have fixed that problem.

    • Shak

      If people had that mentality, then they would all be saying, “the Chinese j\have fixed that problem they had with quality a while back” but we all know that is not true.

  • ToyotaFactorySabbotager

    Industrial Sabbotage is art.

  • 2L Turbo

    It seems when writer stated “The media has certainly smelled blood – I mean, we are talking about the biggest recall in automotive history”, presumably he is included too!

    And the people commented while presenting WELL KNOWN FACTS of automakers OTHER THAN Toyota, been attacked with -1 votes until their comments go auto hidden.

    Having said that it s amazing to see how racial attacks found their way from street to web… WOW!!!

    My comment is going to be voted -1 in 3… 2… 1… crushed

  • David

    How will it affect their reputation?

    My opinion. A week ago I bought my [I think] 23rd car. My 3rd Toyota after a Corolla and Celica in the 70′s.

    We bought a new Kluger. Done about 500 kms this week and all I can say is WOW! What a stunning SUV.

    I don’t think their reputation is affected.

    • Millatime

      Please, for your family’s sake, update your life insurance and your will.

      Kluger is the ONLY vehicle ever to rollover in Wheels magazine routine testing.

      Unfortunately, you are one of the few that has not realised Toyota’s star is fading rapidly.

      God be with you and your family – you will need Him.

  • ABMPSV

    Recalls are everywhere. This is what I find on the net.

    Ferrari is recalling 2,356 F355s sold from 1995–99 to repair a fuel-line problem that it thought it had previously fixed. The new recall is to fix the improper installation of certain clamps from the original recall in 1997. These clamps could result in a fuel leak in the engine compartment that could cause smoke to enter the passenger cabin or, in certain circumstances, the engine to catch on fire. If this keeps up, Ferrari will become synonymous with recalls for engine-fire problems; Ferrari recalled nearly 2,000 Ferrari F430s earlier this year for the same reason.

    • Millatime

      A Ferrari with any number of recalls is still a far better thing than a lethal Toyota with engine stuck flat out and no brakes…

    • Millatime

      Consider this – in the 8 years Toyota raced in Formula 1 (and we won’t count the 3 years developing their cars prior to competing so they could win in their first season of racing), Toyota did not win a single race. Not one victory. Nada. Nought. Nothing. In those same 8 years Ferrari won 66 times…

  • GoHyundai

    some human-beings on here need to be recalled before any toyotas are.

    • LessQQ

      how noble of you to volunteer yourself

  • Millatime

    A US television program aired recently showing different Toyota models tested resulting in their throttles being jammed wide open, replicating exactly the situation that has killed so many people.

    Worse still is they plugged into the cars ECU and Toyota has programmed it in such a way that not a single error message was logged. Thus when a service technician plugs the car into the diagnostics computer, there is no error incident recorded so according to Toyota the car has nothing wrong with it.

    Hence Toyota repeating over and over there is no evidence of a fault, despite the tragic evidence of a rising incident and death toll.

  • F1 Addict

    I read recently in an Economst article that the Akio Toyoda had been reading popular business text How the Mighty Fall when he learned that according to the book his company was in the middle stage of decline. I also read that he he felt jealous after recently testing the VW Scirroco because of the way it made him feel relative to Toyota models. I’ve heard he’s a racer too. I think with a President like that, Toyota should be set for some Golden years in the future.

  • Jack1059

    My personal favourite in the whole story is pointing out the obvious elephant in the room. Why didnt the driver of family that died in the test ride, simply slip it in neutral, or turn the car off rather than dial 911? You can dial but you dont think to switch it off? So lets put this in perspective. Recalls happen to every manufacturer. I’m old enough to remember Ford selling cars KNOWING that the fuel tank would rip open in a rear end collision and start fires. No recall there. They sold those Pinto’s for years until it all caught up to them. So please, give me a break with all these doomsday predictions and holier than thou pronouncements about Toyota. They’ll recall the cars, fix the problems, and carry on much like every other manufacturer has. End of story, except that the US regulator is now the owner of 2 US car companies. In my line of work we call this little issue a conflict of interest.

  • TM

    Could not agree more Jack1059,well said, all these doomsdayers need to get a life.

  • MercBoy

    Agree that all car companies had their days, but this Toyota issue looks really serious. I really fear to buy Toyota – knowing that ghost can takeover anytime and accelerate the car – and this event is really fatal; there is no time to think or react when your car suddenly pulls by itself and runs over someone crossing the zebra cross. Someone saying its that Lexus driver’s fault not to put the gear to neutral rather than calling 911 … I disagree. Given that situation you lose your presence of mind, scared to touch anything fearing worsening of the situation.

    Sure, Toyota didn’t do this on purpose. It’s a mistake. They are now pressed to correct – and until the US gov didn’t press they were reluctant to recall in this scale. But the fact that Toyota still sells the favorite corolla without ESP – its attitude is clear. It wants to cheat its naive fanblokes.

  • pirakavezok

    This is a good time for Toyota to relook at the way they do things-in total. IMHO Toyota products are overpriced presumably because they are the biggest name in the auto business. A revamp of their design, manufacturing processes and pricing policy will do Toyota alot of good. I recently bought a Camry and having used it for a couple of weeks, it came to my realisation that the interior panels all have different shades of the same colour. No doubt that the car has been performing reliably but as a new car, it will not be a model for good quality and value for money. I also made comparisons between the Corolla and other marques such as Mazda 3, Kia Cerato, Mitsubishi Lancer and Nissan Tiida. My view was further reinforced.
    Hopefully, something good will emerge from this saga.

  • The Real Car Fanatic

    What a complete crock, the Toyota Prius has made the finalist list of World car of the year, despite a safety recall on 400,000 vehicles. Time someone discredited these morons who judge for an award that is meant to be the most prestigious!

    • GoHyundai

      what a complete crock.

  • GoHyundai

    Nissan Recall 2010: 540 000 Vehicles Recalled Over Brake Pedal Problems

    GM blames recall of 1.3m cars on supplier linked to Toyota Financial Times
    GM Blames Toyota for Latest Recall of 1.3 Million Vehicles – US Sales Drop …

    Chrysler to Repair 300 000 Minivans for Air Bag Problem New York Times (blog)

    hmmm…

    toy-ota’s 8 point what million recall…hmmm…

    hmmmmm…i don’t know -you tell me.

  • Stephen

    I will not be buying or recommending a Toyota for at least a few years to come. Very unsure. Whatever your comments Im going to sit this one out.

  • Steven A

    There’s nothing reassuring about an alleged cover up from Toyota that may span a decade and dozens of deaths due to faulty technology.
    No excuse or reason will bring back the murdered Toyota drivers or make their families feel any better.
    This is tragic for everyone involved.

    • yowza

      But doesnt that apply to ALL manufacturers of goods that people died from?

      I think you have to isolate the cases and pin point the causes instead of generalizing.

      Mind you, many recalls have taken place in the past from ALL manufacturers of vehicles.

      This time, Toyota takes the cake and the only way out is to find out the cause, fix it for good… move on.

      I do agree Toyota overprice their vehicles in Oz…

      But guess what so does VW, Mazda, Honda etc. The only ones selling “fairly” are Hyundai, Mitsubishi, Kia etc…. coincidently these are the companies that are trying to steal market share from VW, Mazda, Toyota etc.

      Bottomline, companies offer cheaper prices when they are desperate to sell their products.

  • Stuart A

    Another Toyota Prius on the news this morning driven by an elderly chap from the U.S

    A near death experience as his car suddenly accelerated up to 140km/h on the highway and a tow truck had to stop it….very lucky

    Apparantly media sources said the Toyota had already had a recall rectified! What are Toyota Doing.

    I wouldn’t recommend these cars to ANYONE I know at the moment. Couldn’t have it on my concience!

  • Splatcat

    I wouldn’t buy a Jap made car because of what they did to Australian and Allied POW’s in WW2. If this helps sink Toyota and hurts Japan’s economy, all the better, they get what they deserve.

    • yowza

      Great, your logic is the same logic that is of the German army and japanese army back in World War 2. Basically, acting out in prejudice and anger towards other race.

      Please staple your mouth now and stop writing, so your hatred cannot be passed on to anyone else around you.

  • ohreally

    “”I wouldn’t buy a Jap made car because of what they did to Australian and Allied POW’s in WW2. If this helps sink Toyota and hurts Japan’s economy, all the better, they get what they deserve.”"

    by that notion we should stop using a huge range of drugs, because the same companies responisble for zyklon b are still in business!

  • http://suddenacceleration TheToyotaRecallPage

    Recalls are a standard way of doing business but denying the problem existed for years appears to be the way that Toyota handled the issue unfortunately.

  • svd

    I keep wondering if this ‘Unintended Acceleration’ on a Toyota is a crock …
    I’ve never driven a Toyota that accelerates, leisurely increase in speed after much noise would better describe it. I’ve owned 2 Toyotas a 1982 Corona and a 2005 Corolla. I expected the Corolla to be a substantial improvement over the previous Corona but?? It had a hesitation when you start from rest like the worker operationg the throttle had to go read the manual to find out what to do when the accelerator was pressed. The auto transmission was awful. After owning a Hyundai i30 diesel for several months now the pleasant driving experience means I’m unlikely to ever return to Toyota.

    • Tinman

      svd,you’ve raised a good point. I don’t recall ever experiencing this acceleration thing in any toyota i’ve been in.LOL.

  • http://www.supersmartcars.com/ Used Smart Cars

    You have pointed out one of the right thing. After all there are lots of competition in today’s auto market & this kind of recall is really create bad effect on the companies reputation & market goodwill.