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	<title>Comments on: Holden VE Commodore doesn&#8217;t come with a spare</title>
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		<title>By: TonyW</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are these size 18&quot; &amp; 19&quot; tyres so expensive. I just replaced the 16&quot;-245-60 bridgestone Turanzas on my VT Calais and paid $130.00 each, on the car. 

I then asked the tyre guy for a quote for a replacement price on my son&#039;s VE SV6 of Potenza 18&quot;-245-45, thinking Chrissy present and was told $372.00 each -FUG-ME

Now that I have looked at the tyres side by side any differences, apart from inside diametre and wall depth, are VERY hard to spot. In fact if you look at the two from the end they are identical, right down to the tread pattern.

Have I entered the wonderful world of aftermarketing ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are these size 18&#8243; &amp; 19&#8243; tyres so expensive. I just replaced the 16&#8243;-245-60 bridgestone Turanzas on my VT Calais and paid $130.00 each, on the car. </p>
<p>I then asked the tyre guy for a quote for a replacement price on my son&#8217;s VE SV6 of Potenza 18&#8243;-245-45, thinking Chrissy present and was told $372.00 each -FUG-ME</p>
<p>Now that I have looked at the tyres side by side any differences, apart from inside diametre and wall depth, are VERY hard to spot. In fact if you look at the two from the end they are identical, right down to the tread pattern.</p>
<p>Have I entered the wonderful world of aftermarketing ?</p>
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		<title>By: Disorganise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disorganise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shane:  My 2006 VE SSV didn&#039;t feel right to me in the steering and my dealer reckoned it was because of the collapsable column.  2.5 years later and different dealership, I had the front strut bearings replaced and some rubber isolators or something fitted, all under warranty to fix a &#039;clunking&#039; issue in the front-end.  Turns out it totally fixed the steering feel too - it&#039;s now tight and precise with no hint of play.

as to the rest - wish I&#039;d thought of buying multiple spares.  I&#039;m paying around $500-$570 a tyre (depending on single or full set) and only getting around 20,000kms out of them due to the camber putting excess wear on the inners.

as to re-treads - wouldn&#039;t touch &#039;em with a barge pole.  I had them on an old cortina when I was back-packing Oz many years ago before I moved over here permanantly - they essentially fell apart when we hit the higher temps, and weren&#039;t safe beyond 80km/h.
considering all your steering, cornering and braking relies on 4 tiny postcard-sized contact points with the road, the tyre is the one component you shouldn&#039;t scrimp upon - I&#039;ll always buy high quality tyres; My life and the lives of my passengers are too valuable not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shane:  My 2006 VE SSV didn&#8217;t feel right to me in the steering and my dealer reckoned it was because of the collapsable column.  2.5 years later and different dealership, I had the front strut bearings replaced and some rubber isolators or something fitted, all under warranty to fix a &#8216;clunking&#8217; issue in the front-end.  Turns out it totally fixed the steering feel too &#8211; it&#8217;s now tight and precise with no hint of play.</p>
<p>as to the rest &#8211; wish I&#8217;d thought of buying multiple spares.  I&#8217;m paying around $500-$570 a tyre (depending on single or full set) and only getting around 20,000kms out of them due to the camber putting excess wear on the inners.</p>
<p>as to re-treads &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t touch &#8216;em with a barge pole.  I had them on an old cortina when I was back-packing Oz many years ago before I moved over here permanantly &#8211; they essentially fell apart when we hit the higher temps, and weren&#8217;t safe beyond 80km/h.<br />
considering all your steering, cornering and braking relies on 4 tiny postcard-sized contact points with the road, the tyre is the one component you shouldn&#8217;t scrimp upon &#8211; I&#8217;ll always buy high quality tyres; My life and the lives of my passengers are too valuable not to.</p>
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		<title>By: SHANE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHANE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCREW THE TYRES, I JUST HAD MY DUAL FUEL VE SERVICED, $530.00, IT MIGHT BE ONLY EVERY 15000 kms, THAT THEY ARE SERVICED BUT I DO AROUND 1000kMS PER WEEK, AND NO I DONT THINK THE VE IS THAT GOOD, I&#039;D PREFER TO HAVE MY OLD VS BACK ANY DAY, DOES ANYONE ELSE WITH THE 2008 VE, FEEL THAT THE STEERING ISN&#039;T QUITE RIGHT ?.

CHEERS SHANE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCREW THE TYRES, I JUST HAD MY DUAL FUEL VE SERVICED, $530.00, IT MIGHT BE ONLY EVERY 15000 kms, THAT THEY ARE SERVICED BUT I DO AROUND 1000kMS PER WEEK, AND NO I DONT THINK THE VE IS THAT GOOD, I&#8217;D PREFER TO HAVE MY OLD VS BACK ANY DAY, DOES ANYONE ELSE WITH THE 2008 VE, FEEL THAT THE STEERING ISN&#8217;T QUITE RIGHT ?.</p>
<p>CHEERS SHANE</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/576/holden-ve-commodore-doesnt-come-with-a-spare/comment-page-1/#comment-104861</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holden VE Commodore doesn&#039;t come with a spare...... neither do anumber of the latest european [performance]cars so what&#039;s your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holden VE Commodore doesn&#8217;t come with a spare&#8230;&#8230; neither do anumber of the latest european [performance]cars so what&#8217;s your point?</p>
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		<title>By: gb</title>
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		<dc:creator>gb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buy an aurion full size spare is in the price</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buy an aurion full size spare is in the price</p>
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		<title>By: Car-enthusiast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Car-enthusiast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol why do some people make running a car sound so expensive. 

i got the most simple and easiest way to save money on tires under 18 or 19 inch only though. Ok whats the problems with re-treds. i mean u pay $230 for 16 inch tires for a omega. with re-treds u will easily save $80 per tire(without hagging). And with re-treds you are getting the same amount of tred that u get on normal new tires, the only difference is, when u decide to take it to the track u can notice the difference, &amp; whats the chance ur gona take a omega or berlina or calais to the track. on the road re-treds are pretty much the same as normal tires.

Now think this through right save $80 a tire on re-treds, x times 4 tires, u easily save about $320. 

and if u think of it tires arnt that expensive, tires are changed what between every 30 000 km to 70 or 80 000 km, and by 80 000 km of travel how much money of petrol would have been spent.

and ive read that some ppl change their tires once every like 6 yrs that how rarely they drive, so if ur scared or too cheap to cough up $4000 once every say 60 000 km, or about 2 yrs of average driving, for a car like a ssv, then thats ur problem not the tire companies or cars problem.

I mean surely if u can afford a beautiful car like a ssv, and u r able to keep it serviced and put fuel in its tank, then surely u should have no problem getting tires for it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol why do some people make running a car sound so expensive. </p>
<p>i got the most simple and easiest way to save money on tires under 18 or 19 inch only though. Ok whats the problems with re-treds. i mean u pay $230 for 16 inch tires for a omega. with re-treds u will easily save $80 per tire(without hagging). And with re-treds you are getting the same amount of tred that u get on normal new tires, the only difference is, when u decide to take it to the track u can notice the difference, &amp; whats the chance ur gona take a omega or berlina or calais to the track. on the road re-treds are pretty much the same as normal tires.</p>
<p>Now think this through right save $80 a tire on re-treds, x times 4 tires, u easily save about $320. </p>
<p>and if u think of it tires arnt that expensive, tires are changed what between every 30 000 km to 70 or 80 000 km, and by 80 000 km of travel how much money of petrol would have been spent.</p>
<p>and ive read that some ppl change their tires once every like 6 yrs that how rarely they drive, so if ur scared or too cheap to cough up $4000 once every say 60 000 km, or about 2 yrs of average driving, for a car like a ssv, then thats ur problem not the tire companies or cars problem.</p>
<p>I mean surely if u can afford a beautiful car like a ssv, and u r able to keep it serviced and put fuel in its tank, then surely u should have no problem getting tires for it</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/576/holden-ve-commodore-doesnt-come-with-a-spare/comment-page-1/#comment-75166</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 10:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^Oh!  Sorry!  Thats only on the Omega.  The rest of the commodore range full size spare tyre will cost $250.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^Oh!  Sorry!  Thats only on the Omega.  The rest of the commodore range full size spare tyre will cost $250.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And full size spares on the Commodore are now $100</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And full size spares on the Commodore are now $100</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FORD AC COBRA, This is to you..........well ford doesnt MEAN MUCH TO AUSTRALIA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FORD AC COBRA, This is to you&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.well ford doesnt MEAN MUCH TO AUSTRALIA!</p>
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		<title>By: FORD AC COBRA</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/576/holden-ve-commodore-doesnt-come-with-a-spare/comment-page-1/#comment-62478</link>
		<dc:creator>FORD AC COBRA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;HOLDEN YOU DON&#039;T MEAN MUCH TO AUSTRALIA&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;HOLDEN YOU DON&#8217;T MEAN MUCH TO AUSTRALIA&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Spuddles</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/576/holden-ve-commodore-doesnt-come-with-a-spare/comment-page-1/#comment-62474</link>
		<dc:creator>Spuddles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys, why couldn&#039;t I read this BEFORE I brought my VE 6.0L calais. I am not a tight wad as Tim mentioned, I brought a car I could just afford. It was ex-demo and my dream car. I am going to be very careful on the tyre wear from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys, why couldn&#8217;t I read this BEFORE I brought my VE 6.0L calais. I am not a tight wad as Tim mentioned, I brought a car I could just afford. It was ex-demo and my dream car. I am going to be very careful on the tyre wear from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/576/holden-ve-commodore-doesnt-come-with-a-spare/comment-page-1/#comment-61232</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In three years of owning a ZC Vectra CD hatch I have had to replace a tyre twice and patch two tyres twice.  I&#039;m thankful my car came with five full size alloys and tyres - once it took over a week to buy in a replacement Bridgestone valued at $340.
While it wasn&#039;t a uni-directional tyre, it was fairly expensive to replace a tyre twice. Each time I had to leave the damaged tyre with a repairer - on the other occasions for at least one or two days.
The moral of the story is everyone should carry a full spare no matter what it costs - tyres do get damaged  - four times under 45,000 kms of driving - three times in Sydney and once at Oberon NSW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In three years of owning a ZC Vectra CD hatch I have had to replace a tyre twice and patch two tyres twice.  I&#8217;m thankful my car came with five full size alloys and tyres &#8211; once it took over a week to buy in a replacement Bridgestone valued at $340.<br />
While it wasn&#8217;t a uni-directional tyre, it was fairly expensive to replace a tyre twice. Each time I had to leave the damaged tyre with a repairer &#8211; on the other occasions for at least one or two days.<br />
The moral of the story is everyone should carry a full spare no matter what it costs &#8211; tyres do get damaged  &#8211; four times under 45,000 kms of driving &#8211; three times in Sydney and once at Oberon NSW.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rims and tyres,  picked up my new Ford XR8 and asked if i purchase a matching spare.  I was told only available when ording the car.   To keep this short, i hit a gutter.  Went back to the dealer who told me $840.00 for a new wheel.  After a lot crying they gave me one for  $705.00  (thank you Denmac Ford Darra)
Popped in to Bob Janes who told me a matching Tyre would cost $450.00.  So $250.00 for a matching spare when you order the car is a good investment.  
Decided to sell the car when the tyres wear out.  
Anyone want a 18 X 8 hose reel.  Still in the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rims and tyres,  picked up my new Ford XR8 and asked if i purchase a matching spare.  I was told only available when ording the car.   To keep this short, i hit a gutter.  Went back to the dealer who told me $840.00 for a new wheel.  After a lot crying they gave me one for  $705.00  (thank you Denmac Ford Darra)<br />
Popped in to Bob Janes who told me a matching Tyre would cost $450.00.  So $250.00 for a matching spare when you order the car is a good investment.<br />
Decided to sell the car when the tyres wear out.<br />
Anyone want a 18 X 8 hose reel.  Still in the box.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank god im a tyre guy! tyres are one of the only thing in this world of ours that what you pay for is what you get pay nothing you get nothing pay something you get something pay lots of money get lots of quality!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank god im a tyre guy! tyres are one of the only thing in this world of ours that what you pay for is what you get pay nothing you get nothing pay something you get something pay lots of money get lots of quality!</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tim,

the prices are quoted as per the specifications provided by Holden. So prices are for the same tyres that come with your car,

there are always alternatives, but if you want good tyres, your paying for it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tim,</p>
<p>the prices are quoted as per the specifications provided by Holden. So prices are for the same tyres that come with your car,</p>
<p>there are always alternatives, but if you want good tyres, your paying for it!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whom ever wrote this article regarding the cost of tyres is an ill informed knob. 16 inch tyres cost approximaterly 140 for a quility tyre and about 100 for a cheaper option not 230 dollars. If your going to inform peolpe do it with corrrect information. And if your spending 50 thousand on a ss or calais then dont be such a tight wad and buy a full size spare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whom ever wrote this article regarding the cost of tyres is an ill informed knob. 16 inch tyres cost approximaterly 140 for a quility tyre and about 100 for a cheaper option not 230 dollars. If your going to inform peolpe do it with corrrect information. And if your spending 50 thousand on a ss or calais then dont be such a tight wad and buy a full size spare.</p>
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		<title>By: Holden VE Commodore Suspension System &#38;raquo Australian Car Advice &#38; News Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holden VE Commodore Suspension System &#38;raquo Australian Car Advice &#38; News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Standard wheel and tyre combinations start at a 16&#215;7-inch package. Sizes increase to an 19&#215;8 alloy package for SS V with a 20&#215;8-inch package available as a factory accessory. If you want to know more about the tyres and cost of replacements for the Commodore VE tyres, click here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Standard wheel and tyre combinations start at a 16&#215;7-inch package. Sizes increase to an 19&#215;8 alloy package for SS V with a 20&#215;8-inch package available as a factory accessory. If you want to know more about the tyres and cost of replacements for the Commodore VE tyres, click here. [...]</p>
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