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2010 FPV GT-H spied, supercharged 5.0-litre Coyote V8

By Paul Maric |
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After breaking news of a supercharged FPV in June, 2009, Pavle.com.au photographers have snapped the next installment in FPV’s feisty line-up. Either that or it’s the lead vehicle in Back to the Future IV.

It’s common knowledge that FPV will ditch the BOSS V8 in July this year due to emissions regulations (read more here). In place of the well-served BOSS V8 will be the all new V8 developed in America for the Ford Mustang. According to sources within Ford, Ford will name the supercharged FPV the GT-H. What makes the vehicle pictured above so unique is that it’s the first manufacturer application of a supercharged Coyote V8 anywhere in the world.

The task of handling the supercharging effort has been left with the nut-job engineers at FPV who have graced us with things like the XR6 Turbo and F6 310. I don’t know about you guys, but that to me can only mean one thing – fun.

Along with wider rear tyres to cope with extra power (expect around 275mm, up from the current 245mm offering), quad exhaust pipes will be fitted to all Coyote laden FPVs and the XR8 or its replacement. In addition to the quad exhaust pipes, the GT-H ringleader will feature dual inlets on the front bumper bar, suggesting an intercooled supercharger will be used to belt extra power out of the 5.0-litre V8.

The red vehicle spotted back in June, 2009 by our eagle eyed spy photographers was an early development mule. The blue vehicle pictured above appears to be undergoing final testing in preparation for a circa July launch. While out photographers simply raved about the supercharger whine back in 2009, this time around they have captured audio of the supercharged Falcon undergoing acceleration testing – make sure you listen to the exhaust.

In addition to rumours suggesting the uptake of the GT-H nameplate, Ford may also ditch the XR8 nameplate, opting instead for XR50, signifying the 5.0-litre engine capacity.

More information about the upcoming Coyote V8 can be read here. CarAdvice will bring you more information as it comes to hand. One thing’s for sure, FPV will soon be dealing out a mighty offering for HSV to better. Competition can only be a good thing for consumers.


 

  • Mitch

    If their gonna do it, they need to do it properly.

    • crouchy

      they’re*

      • Muse

        Crouchy: They’re. If you’re going to become a spelling and grammar Nazi, capitalise your sentences.

        See, annoying isn’t it?

        • Schmak

          Technically he didn’t need to capitalise that, but place in quotes, but the astericks can suffice.

          Anyway… I agree. Do it correctly Ford. Make this a V8 that makes Holden compete. Without this Holden pushing Holden they would become complacent – they have done it before when Ford removed V8s from their line up.
          There is a video (I can’t find the link ATM) of the new Mustang doing acceleration passes and the like for advertisment purposes, and it sounds AMAZING. Please Ford AU, do not lose this note.

  • Jazrod

    Not the ‘Eargasm’ I was hoping for, but sounds great nonetheless! Looking forward to seeing new engine specifications and exterior updates (if there is any!).

    • Joker

      Yea Jazrod, Sounds like the driver didn’t really give it that much stick and backed off the throttle before driving past the photographers :) ….Probably saw them standing slack-jawed by the side of the road :P

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    nothing now beats “the good old days” for ear quality.straight cut timing gears,solid lifters,40/80 profile camshafts,all gone….

    • JML

      You’ve obviously never heard an AMG V8 at full noise. :P

      • The Oracle’s Teacher

        …or the Astin Martin.

        • Tom22

          Astin Martin

          lol

  • David Jones

    should give HSV some curry

  • Pg

    so is this going to be the beast out of the mustang 5.0 or the new shelby gt500?
    but whichever one, they are both awesome
    more power + less weight = win

    • Dan

      It will be a supercharged version of the all-new coyote in the new FPV’s and XR8. While the 2011 shelby gt500 uses the older 5.4L S/C BOSS but now uses a alloy block.

      • Tom22

        This engine will be good, but the Shelby’s are running 410kw with the new aluminium block.

        Why Ford isn’t just using that engine is beyond me.

        • MrQuick

          The Shelby uses pretty much the same block as before, just in Aluminium guise. And guess what the old iron block used to be, the 5.4l BOSS engine that FPV uses as their v8.

          Its simply too massive to fit under the bonnet. I’ve heard that if they did put it straight in it, the bonnet bulge will have to be lifted atleast another 100 odd mm just to fit the supercharger, which is pretty ridiculous.

  • Brett

    Is it just me, or has that bonnet bulge shrunk a little?

    • Matthew

      Maybe it was cold weather testing

      • deco

        LOL.

        It still looks massively huge to me.

      • Tom22

        well played

    • The Menz

      If you look at the bonnet closely it looks as if the profile of the bonnet has been altered. It appears higher through the center thus the bulge looks smaller.

      For my two cents worth, this has to be right. Ford have been playing around with hamstrung V8 options for too long.

      Don’t drop the Xr8 i still think like the SS it has it place and besides if I could get one with the 5.0 I would probably get it because that is my budget.

      Ditch all these GT’s, have a base GT with XR level interior but the FPV spec motor and seats.. Delete the GS or perhaps make it and FPV enhanced option for XR8 owners. Keep the GT-E for the executives out there with a subtle bespoke body kit and all the trimmings interior wise. And then bang out a right proper GTHO. It has to be GT-e quality interior, with the big engine and breaks. I would even chuck in some vents and carbon panels for good measure.

      The F6 should wear its own clothes and in my view should be a match for the V8 if it can. It has a different audience and can easily sit directly along side the V8.

      And get rid of that damn start button unless they have keyless start.

    • The Menz

      If you look at the bonnet closely it looks as if the profile of the bonnet has been altered. It appears higher through the center thus the bulge looks smaller.

      For my two cents worth, this has to be right. Ford have been playing around with hamstrung V8 options for too long.

      Don\’t drop the Xr8 i still think like the SS it has it place and besides if I could get one with the 5.0 I would probably get it because that is my budget.

      Ditch all these GT\’s, have a base GT with XR level interior but the FPV spec motor and seats.. Delete the GS or perhaps make it and FPV enhanced option for XR8 owners. Keep the GT-E for the executives out there with a subtle bespoke body kit and all the trimmings interior wise. And then bang out a right proper GTHO. It has to be GT-e quality interior, with the big engine and breaks. I would even chuck in some vents and carbon panels for good measure.

      The F6 should wear its own clothes and in my view should be a match for the V8 if it can. It has a different audience and can easily sit directly along side the V8.

      And get rid of that damn start button unless they have keyless start.

  • MrQuick

    Ah, finally

    An FPV with wider tyres, its about time, though would have loved to see them to engineer in a 295-305mm tyre. Or perhaps even remove some weight.

    • Andrew M

      This new engine does apparently remove a heap of weight, and from the critical location too

      • MrQuick

        Yeah thats so true, I’d guess that the Coyote engine weighs quite similar to the straight 6 employed in the F6, so it should handle alot like it.

        • Tom22

          The turbo 6′s are iron blocks arn’t they? I might be wrong so don’t quote me, i was just under the impression they were iron bottum, aluminium top.

          It might even be lighter.

          • MrQuick

            Yeah the inline 6 block is iron, and heres a bit of trivia for you, that engine block is essentially the same architecture as the engine block used in the XB falcon I think. Though its been seriously beefed up over the years. Thats why theres a massive push to replace it with something newer. The current inline 6 has had so much flow development, but the block is still pretty old school. Just goes to show Aussie engineers ingenuity, they can still get it to pass emissions regs.

            But just thinking bout that, theres a pretty big possibility that it may actaully be lighter. Packaging will be substantially better too, the engine can be placed further back and will be lower.

            A V8 that may finally outperform the turbo 6?
            Golly, thats amazing.

  • stuzz

    Charged V8, just what the big aussies need! Is hsv listening

    • Bent 8 Brigade

      HSV already offer supercharging as an option

  • Ben

    I like what I see and I like what I hear. This has to be the biggest indication that ford will keep the falcon, there letting them release the 1st production used supercharged version 5Litre V8 and in 2011 to eco boost inline 4. Cant wait to see what the front/ rear bumper and rims look like. Hope FPV bring out some 0-100km/h and 1/4 mile times aswell. Go the flyin falcon!!!

  • Millatime

    Finally, and not before time, proper V8 Ford muscle. Good riddance to the Boss engine, too heavy, too tall, wouldn’t rev high enough. Can’t wait for this monster to hit the streets!

  • David

    See Walkinshaw Performance for your supercharged HSV (and this months’ MOTOR mag).

    • Andrew M

      Walkinshaw will fat a superchargers to cars other than HSV’s, hardly a production supercharger in that instance.

      • Bent 8 Brigade

        10 points for splitting hairs Andrew M

        • Andrew M

          Are you saying im incorrect????

          Thats like putting an LPG conversion onto a Camry or something and saying its production…

          • Bent 8 Brigade

            Yes, you’re incorrect.

            Walkinshaw own HSV.
            Walkinshaw owns Walkinshaw Performance.
            Walkinshaw Performance fits Walkinshaw superchargers to HSV vehicles produced by HSV which Walkinshaw owns.

            Your desperate analogy about LPG and Camrys is not valid.
            If you want to talk about supercharging of local performance sedans, Walkinshaw was doing it first here and in the UK, FPV now doing catchy-uppy.

            In fact Walkinshaw announced just this week an enhancement package for your new HSV (HSV being a Walkinshaw company, remember?).
            Walkinshaw Performance can furnish you with a carbonfibre body kit (quarter panel vents, bonnet scoop, mirrors and ‘hood header’ and ‘low series’ spoiler), bi-modal 3.0-inch exhaust, 20-inch alloy wheels in a unique design and lowered suspension.

            Most importantly for some, the E2 Supercar comes with a black-finished supercharger, which ramps up the 6.2-litre LS3 V8′s engine power to 480kW and torque to 802Nm. And gosh, all that with a new-car warranty too.

          • LTD- The Lincoln Type Design

            So, Bent 8, what is this HSV model called? When walking into an HSV/Holden Dealership, what particular model do I ask for? GTS, GTSC (lol) or some new model that HSV hasn’t let the public know about yet. Yes, Walkinshaw might own HSV, but they seem intent on only applying their superchargers to overseas Vauxhall Models. Is it listed in the Red Book as a new car or an HSV with modifications, you dunce! Try getting standard insurance for your Walkie S/C “special”

          • N.L Fairlane

            To Bent 8

  • Millatime

    If I want a tractor I’ll go to HSV and Walkinshaw

  • mr.trith

    Not sure how you can tell this is supercharged when you cannot see under the bonnet?

    Me think its just a FPV version on the XR8 with the new Coyote V8 in it.

    Looking VERY dry @ YouYangs these days….

    Keep up the scoop photos guys!

    • Joker

      If you listen to the accompanying soundtrack from Youtube, you can hear the Supercharger whine.

  • The Associate

    HOPE THEY HAVE NEW WHEELS THIS TIME TOO!!!!
    Even though the old ones look good, they are draging on a bit!
    Other than that CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS TO BE RELEASED!!!!

  • Valet Dabess

    um, can i please test it?

  • Tony M

    Does anyone know what type of supercharger is being used.

    • Shak

      I read somewhere the same Roots type as used in the ZR1 Corevtte, with smaller lobes. But i as a HSV/Holden fan am happy to see FPV/Ford finally put some fire into the power wars. This is good for both local manufacturers, as competition is good for consumers. Oh and the noise is awesome.

      • Andrew M

        Shak,
        its not so much the power wars that matter, but rather the substance behind it.

        For eg, the XR6T spanks cars with 50kw more.
        What they need is a V8 with power in the right place, and balance to match.

        The current FPV V8 has power figures to match HSV’s V8′s, but HSV’s V8′s are quicker. I think its good Ford is putting some substance behind the V8 now rather then just making sure the “Kw” looks good.

        Agree the noise is great, it sort of sounded like the 5.0L V8SC roar………
        Perhaps the V8SC haters will stop the old “where can you buy a production V8″ line

  • red-bike

    spied or not, it doesn’t matter – we all know what a falcon looks like and it is not likely to look too different ;)

  • Ford Freak

    Is the premium model the GT-HP?

    • My Cars Called T-Rex

      Hopefully it will be GT-HO.

  • The Realist

    How much will it cost?

    • Spetty

      Why do you care,it is an Australian made car and you dont like them if i remember correctly?

      • Andrew M

        Your memory serves you well ;)

        He is just trying to open a conversation on how crap he thinks it will be.
        If it were 20K he would still thumb his nose at it

        • The Realist

          Not at all. Just curious about whether it will be $70K+…

      • The Realist

        So let me get this straight – Ford Australia is 100% American owned, funded by tax payer dollars?

        • Rowman

          That is Gm who are owned by the U.S government. Ford have done it on their own without any government money.

  • Elitist

    Can’t believe theyre still building this crap and still fighting this war noone cares about anymore.
    The day these cars die is the day the average aussie male becomes that little more sophisticated.

    • Minnow

      That’ll be day that the day when men need to shave their legs and have facials while having their nails done in order to be sophisticated like you. You wear D&G and have a Gucci bag? How pretty.

    • David W

      Now here’s a perfect example of why a post should be permanently deleted once the “thumbs down” passes 10.

      • Elitist

        Minnow its soo pathetic how you dont even know what it means to be sophisticated.
        You probably eat spaghetti out of a can with dolmio and say tonight we are having something exotic for dinner.

        • Damian

          Elitist, what is your idea of “sophistication” when it comes to cars? Personally, I can’t think of any other better “bang for your buck” alternatives than the hero models from Holden and Ford. I’d be very interested to see your take on this.

          • Hung Low

            So how is that Rolex from Bali going Elitist?

            Sophisticated or Metrosexual?
            There is still a place for large Muscle cars, ask teh Germans!

          • Shak

            His idea of a sophistocated car is anything which is not made in the country he live’s in.

          • The Realist

            Not everyone wants a big heavy rep mobile with racing stripes. I’ll take a second hand BMW 325i or 135i thanks for that price.

            “Sophistication”? None of the Ford Falcons even have LEDs or Xenons, simple features found in cars that cost $30K.

        • Minnow

          Obviously your version of sophisticated is purely subjective and heavily influenced by what your friends and colleagues think of you. Your after the status the car brings to you more than the enjoyment and fun. Obviously this type of car wouldn’t appeal to you you’d rather drive a 4cyl 320i BMW with big rims and Msport body kit so that people say.. OOo you drive a BMW. The falcon is sophisticated in that it can get up and boogie while being the everyday taxi to and from work. Same price range… attract totally different people.

  • Lynchy

    I hope this thing lives up to the hype when it’s released. On paper it certainly should, less weight over the front wheels, more rubber on the rears and more herbs under the bonnet. The 325 kw & 600 nm figure keeps getting thrown around, no doubt it will produce it’s power not far of idle as well. In reality this 325 figure will more than likely be closer to 350 kw, most FG F6s pump out 280 – 300 rwkw which equates to around 345 – 350 engine kw and from all accounts this thing will relegate the F6 to second place again. Ford is undoubtly making the right call if and when it badges it a 325 kw engine, last thing we need is the media creating another supercar scare.

    Bent 8 brigade is the supercharged option from HSV you mentioned one offered by Walkinshaw or PWR, is that the deal where they send your brand spanker off to one of those Tuners but you still get full warranty coverage, it’s not a bad setup but still not the same as walking in to your FPV dealer, laying out your 75 000 clams and driving home in a supercharged beast. Never fear though, word is Holden/HSV have started testing their own supercharged behemoth, they say 24 months before release but the Red Lion seem to be able to speed up development when they have to so definately interesting and good times ahead if your in the market for a new weapon from either company. Go the Aussies.

    • Bent 8 Brigade

      The warranty one offered by HSV is the Walkinshaw Performance one…not sure if HSV are fitting these in-house now or if the cars still need to go to Walkinshaw for fitment. Maybe someone else might know?

      • Tom22

        Considering walkinshaw owns HSV and walkinshaw performance offer warrantied superchargers that dealers fit to demos and sell them in HSV shops i don’t think they really need much R&D

        • Lynchy

          Right you are Tom22, they could probably pump out a close to production ready version tomorrow, but due to their current dominance of the V8 segment in sales and straightline performance they can afford to see how the market reacts to FPVs next offering before having to give Johnny Public a new weapon, not a bad spot to be in. I assume that most of their testing will be focussed on efficiency, I’m not sure what sort of economy the Walkinshaw gets (most people buying wouldn’t be to concerned) but HSV will undoubtebly want to be able advertise some efficiency gains.

          One thing I find interesting about the supercharged Coyote is why Ford Australia chose to go down a different supercharger path than what SVT/Shelby have done for the GT350, not sure which one is better but the GT350 makes a lot more of the traditional supercharger whine.

    • stevefreestyle

      Ford already have a normally aspirated “RoadRunner” version of the Coyote 5.0L with 336 kw, featuring the same style Ram-Tube & Plenum chamber inlet manifold as the XR8 Boss 260/290. Makes 317/325 kw from the nenderthal pushrod 6.2L HSV look somewhat pathetic – let alone the 260/270kw 6.0L SS !

      • john

        Ferrari gets 425kw/540nm from a 4.5l N/A V8 so that makes ford and holdens efforts both look pathetic. So what is your point?

        • http://bent Millatime

          Can you buy that Ferrari for 70K?

          • The Realist

            No, but you can buy rep mobiles in fluro green with racing stripes.

          • Minnow

            You cant buy a ferrari in fluro green and racing stripes Atleast the rep mobile can be bought in red.

        • Joker

          Yes John, Ferrari can get a lot of power from a V8.
          They use light weight, high cost materials and rely on the car to be serviced regularly and a regular service will set you back $6000+AUD.
          Some guys I know budget $30k-$40K A year just to keep the car running and maintained. Your Logic is flawed.

        • My Cars Called T-Rex

          John – I remember the 24hr race a bathurst when John Bowe drove a Ferrari 360,at the start he flogged the butt off It to keep up with the monaros,It lasted 26 laps before it blow up.

          • Millatime

            Strictly speaking, the Monaros with their 7 litre engines were not production cars and were therefore illegally racing in a production based category.

          • My Cars Called T-Rex

            I agree Millatime

  • colin

    Hey John if you can get off your high horse. A Ferrari will set you back close to 300 Thousand dollars for that privelidge and i am sure i and a lot of people reading this information cannot afford. I wouldn’t waste the money anyway

    • john

      I can’t afford a ferrari either Colin. My point is that the power efforts of ford and holden are both pathetic not just holdens effort. Thats it!

      • HS-Pee

        Get over yourself John, who gives a cr$p what ferrari does/has in their cars, you’re note exactly comparing apples with apples when these cars cost a fraction of the price yet bring you 9/10ths of the performance.. for 70k ferrari would probably sell you 2 camels taped together with a ‘prancing horse’ badge slapped on the side.

  • john

    PS from a budget point of view I don’t think Ford US/Obama owned GM have any less money than ferrari too spend on engine development. I think it is just down too simple engineering prowess which ferrari obviously has in abundance and of which GM and ford have none! Adios!

    • Michael

      No it’s NOT – its down to servicing different markets… would ferrari ever produce a car that ordinary people could buy NO… do ford or GM ever produce super cars yes – FORD had GT GM had corvette… which perform as super cars so nothing to do with what you say as inferior engineering just different markets…

  • Hung Low

    John, what is the life expectancy of a Ferrari engine in a heavy car with start stop, short trips, towing etc?
    You are comparing a highly stressed sports engine to a mass produced commercial engine! Get a clue please!

    • Shak

      Exactly. While GM, Ford and Ferrari may have similar resources to build engines, they have to build them for different things. If GM and Ford wanted, they could build an Engine to compete, and they have (ZR1 anyone?). It just goes to show, GM and Ford have more skill when making V8′s because they can make them to suit any number of applications.

  • NIK516

    this will most likly be the same engine that is in the 2011 shelby gt350, 5L supercharged, they say 4.6 to 100 but thats in a lighter body.

    hope its all true we need some grunt from the ford factory.

    • Lynchy

      Not quite the same NIK516, the engines yes, however both companies are using totally different supercharger designs, and each one has conducted all their own R & D.

      The FPV will probably have more power and torque on paper but as you said the weight advantage of the GT350 will make it a faster beast on the track, that said it will be the quickest factory V8 getting around (still being made that is).

      • Andrew M

        The weight issue probably adds cause to the argument of FPV doing a stripped down performance vehicle.

        Pity is I doubt many would understand it, and it would get slammed for not having safety based items or sat nav.

        Anyway, if the current FPV offering of sub 5 sec isnt fast enough for you, well actually….. I cant imagine why any road going 5 sec vehicle wouldnt be fast enough.

        I would rather put up with being half a sec slower to the 100 than losing out on creature comforts

        • Shak

          I was thinking somwhere along the same lines. I would sacrifice a couple of tenths to be able to launch the F6 perfectly and a bit more comfort on the inside. WHile the F6 is magnificent, it still wheelspins in 3rd, which just goes to show how much of a beast it is.

          • http://bent Millatime

            There is definately a market for a stripped out lightweight “track day” special. The GT-HO in the early 70′s was virtually a road registered race car. It is the most revered badge in Australian automative history. So thats what the GT-HO must be when it is reborn – it must have more grunt, less weight, if it’s to be true to the HO’s heritage. If Ford can manage that they will instantly create another cult/classic car for the ages, and bask in reflected glory for a very long time. Learn from HSV’s mistake with the failed W427 and price it well under 100K. The ‘HO must be a monster.

            Then launch a “HO” version of the F6. Call it the F6-RR or something like that, lightweight, maybe twin turbo…

        • MrQuick

          I was going to make a comment along the lines of a completly stripped out version of any FPV for sale, but I didn’t because I know I’d end up getting slammed for it and labelled a nutjob, comments like that are more appropriate on Jalopnik.

          But thats so true, going faster than 6 seconds down to about 4 in terms of getting to a hundred is plenty fast and the difference is negligible on road, only time you do notice is on track, on wide roads or if you spend a copious amounts of time accelerating at full throttle.

          Got to drive a GS this week, god its so tractable and comfortable driving everyday, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’d get one over an F6.

          @ Millatime – haha, twin turbo or a twin scroll F6 would be pretty awesome, but the 310kw it already makes just shows that the chassis is really on its last legs and dare i say, almost too much power for it. The 270 the XR6T makes is perfect though.

  • Damian

    “Not everyone wants a big heavy rep mobile with racing stripes. I’ll take a second hand BMW 325i or 135i thanks for that price.”

    Well, if you’re not interested, why are you posting in this thread? You can’t even begin to compare a 325i with an FPV/HSV. Whilst the 325i has its merits, it is way overpriced and under-powered. The 135i is a great car, but try accomodating five passengers and their luggage, in comfort, whilst towing a trailer.

    The closest BMW “rep mobile” with similar FPV/HSV levels of performance costs north of $200k.

    ““Sophistication”? None of the Ford Falcons even have LEDs or Xenons, simple features found in cars that cost $30K.”

    Do these cars you speak of come with big, torquey eights or turbo-charged sixes? Are they as spacious as our local hero models? I think not. Furthermore, when was the last time you looked at a BMW options list? Xenon headlights are not standard on a 325i, and BMW charge circa $2k for metallic paint.

    Obviously, “sophistication” comes at a price, and in the case of the Germans, the price defies all logic and rationality.

    • The Realist

      Wow, your passion for your 100% American owned Aussie tax payer funded Fprd it brings a smile to my face. You can try to justify it all you want, but it’s ridiculous that Ford try to pass off cheap and nasty vehicles for $70K+. Take away the drive train and German transmission and your left with racoon eyes with halogens, fluro paint, a rear spoiler, and a push button starter that still needs you to insert a key. Even Toyota Camry’s have LEDs now. Pathetic. What about quality? Service? Fit and finish? Features?

      BTW the E90, E92 and E93 M3s come to mind… as does the C63AMG and Audi RS4… and all of these cost less than $200K.

      • Tinman

        BARGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Can you get them with the swastika on the front guards?

        • Vine

          “Can you get them with the swastika on the front guards?” LOL, nice one Tinman!

  • “P”

    Ford North America will screw this engine up…some how…they will. Far too much for Ford NA to get right.

    That Falcon would be nice to have here though. Far better car than the mediocre/lackluster Taurus we have…and one of the very nice things about the Falcon over the Taurus, is that the Falcon does not look like a Camry.

  • Al Juraj

    They really need to improve marketing to win people over from the pushrod dinosaurs on the other side of Aussie V8s.

  • Wazza of south Aust

    About time Ford had a decent V8 to compete with HSV…I’m a Ford boy and love me CLEVO’S AND WINDSORS,so this FORD V8 sounds bloody awesome…BRING IT ON!!!!!

  • gary vann

    GT-H FORD SO CLOSE TO A GT-HO ARE THEY TRYING TO TELL US SOMETHING

  • Justin

    from all reports, a 30kw raise in power from ~300kw to ~330kw with the supercharger is quite poor, should at least aim for ~50kw+. Only reasoning to this I can think of is that this engine will be around for a long time and FPV don’t want to get all the power out of it straight away so later models are better and more powerful than the last. As long as it beats a GTS in a straight line it will be successful

  • PoisonEagle

    Say what you will, but the performance figures will probably do all the torquing. As for sophsitication, the Falcon has the basics down pat there, the 6 cylinder is near as damnit on NVH to a BMW; for a ridiculous fraction of the price, and without looking like a pretentious ‘uniform’ as Richard Hammond puts it. Granted the BMW is more thoroughly engineered and undoubtedly sophisticated, but with a 50% tax we pay here, its not really worth it just to get a badge. Before you call me biased/bogan or w/e bear in mind I am trading my EF for an E39 5 series so I know a good car when I see one. Realist you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Camrys might have LED’s but thats hardly a compelling argument for an automotive lobotomy is it. I bet you’re a hit with the ladies. The grownups are talking V8s, take your blandmobile elsewhere…