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	<title>Comments on: Ford introduces incentive program as Toyota recalls spread</title>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180532</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your point &quot;Save it..,&quot; but if I own one of these vehicles I damn well want to be warned that there&#039;s an issue. An automobile is still the 2nd biggest purchase most of us ever make. They need to be held to the highest standards, especially when it comes to safety. And by the way, that Darwinian nature you&#039;re talking about has never been limited to the US public. There are idiots everywhere my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your point &#8220;Save it..,&#8221; but if I own one of these vehicles I damn well want to be warned that there&#8217;s an issue. An automobile is still the 2nd biggest purchase most of us ever make. They need to be held to the highest standards, especially when it comes to safety. And by the way, that Darwinian nature you&#8217;re talking about has never been limited to the US public. There are idiots everywhere my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: stevo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180496</link>
		<dc:creator>stevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Why don&#039;t people learn to properly react to problems which can occur while driving, as pilots have to do, instead of just being passive computer game idiots, with no clue as to to what to do in a real driving situation. Such as beginner motorroller jockeys, who don&#039;t learn how to steer left in order to initiate a fast right curve, to avoid an oncoming car in their lane, until just before they die in the head-on. Or the young ladies who swerve to the right when they are passed, losing control on the edge of the road by wrenching the steering wheel as if they were watching a video game at home, forgetting that when the traction comes, they will shoot into the lane of oncoming cars. They learn, but too late. The video game industry, I feel, is partly responsible for the continuing deaths by naive young drivers, with too much video game experience before they (try to) learn to drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Why don&#8217;t people learn to properly react to problems which can occur while driving, as pilots have to do, instead of just being passive computer game idiots, with no clue as to to what to do in a real driving situation. Such as beginner motorroller jockeys, who don&#8217;t learn how to steer left in order to initiate a fast right curve, to avoid an oncoming car in their lane, until just before they die in the head-on. Or the young ladies who swerve to the right when they are passed, losing control on the edge of the road by wrenching the steering wheel as if they were watching a video game at home, forgetting that when the traction comes, they will shoot into the lane of oncoming cars. They learn, but too late. The video game industry, I feel, is partly responsible for the continuing deaths by naive young drivers, with too much video game experience before they (try to) learn to drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil C.</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180315</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except for the FACT that Ford vehicles have equal or better quality than Honda or Toyota. 

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/2009/07/ford_tops_quali_2.html

http://blog.pennlive.com/pa-car-talk/2009/10/ford_quality_rating_continues.html

Your stuck in the past, get with the current.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except for the FACT that Ford vehicles have equal or better quality than Honda or Toyota. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/2009/07/ford_tops_quali_2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/2009/07/ford_tops_quali_2.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.pennlive.com/pa-car-talk/2009/10/ford_quality_rating_continues.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.pennlive.com/pa-car-talk/2009/10/ford_quality_rating_continues.html</a></p>
<p>Your stuck in the past, get with the current.</p>
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		<title>By: noj</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180277</link>
		<dc:creator>noj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It won`t take them long to return to Toyota once they have had a Ford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It won`t take them long to return to Toyota once they have had a Ford.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180269</link>
		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s kinda funny - Ford clearly thinks Americans have forgotten the Explore killing machine and it&#039;s recalls for rollovers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s kinda funny &#8211; Ford clearly thinks Americans have forgotten the Explore killing machine and it&#8217;s recalls for rollovers.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180239</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers. At least I don&#039;t have to live in doubt any longer..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers. At least I don&#8217;t have to live in doubt any longer..</p>
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		<title>By: Save it for the track</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180199</link>
		<dc:creator>Save it for the track</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that these &#039;issues&#039; with Toyota&#039;s simply highlight just what kind of people drive them. Basically those with not much idea.  Floor mats!!! Good grief, adjust them for crying out loud. As for the accellerator pedal issue, put the car in neutral, turn the key off (but not too far back as to not be able to steer), pretty damn obvious solutions. The fact that a few Yanks have unfortunately died further highlights the Darwinian nature of the US public.  I saw an example on the box the other day where some Yank rang 911 in a panic because their accellerator had stuck. Trully pathetic. It has made me wonder if Toyota here in Aus has had some isolated incidents over the years, simply due to the number of octagenarians, and other predominantly females (usually of an ethnic persuasion) that have crashed into shopfronts, run onto footpaths, and ran through walls in shopping centre carparks. I have attended a few, and all of the cases I have attended were Toyota&#039;s, and from the ones you see on the news, nine times out of ten they seem to be Toyota&#039;s as well. Makes me wonder now if any of them did have any other issue apart from being &#039;past it&#039; or in some cases &#039;never had it&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that these &#8216;issues&#8217; with Toyota&#8217;s simply highlight just what kind of people drive them. Basically those with not much idea.  Floor mats!!! Good grief, adjust them for crying out loud. As for the accellerator pedal issue, put the car in neutral, turn the key off (but not too far back as to not be able to steer), pretty damn obvious solutions. The fact that a few Yanks have unfortunately died further highlights the Darwinian nature of the US public.  I saw an example on the box the other day where some Yank rang 911 in a panic because their accellerator had stuck. Trully pathetic. It has made me wonder if Toyota here in Aus has had some isolated incidents over the years, simply due to the number of octagenarians, and other predominantly females (usually of an ethnic persuasion) that have crashed into shopfronts, run onto footpaths, and ran through walls in shopping centre carparks. I have attended a few, and all of the cases I have attended were Toyota&#8217;s, and from the ones you see on the news, nine times out of ten they seem to be Toyota&#8217;s as well. Makes me wonder now if any of them did have any other issue apart from being &#8216;past it&#8217; or in some cases &#8216;never had it&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180196</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That story probably wouldnt get as many hits as the shyte stirring, US manufacturing haters wouldnt come near it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That story probably wouldnt get as many hits as the shyte stirring, US manufacturing haters wouldnt come near it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180177</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how Car Advice posts a US centric ford story here but fails to report the profit Ford made globally in the 4th quarter of 09.
I wonder if I&#039;d get called a Ford fanboy for pointing that out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how Car Advice posts a US centric ford story here but fails to report the profit Ford made globally in the 4th quarter of 09.<br />
I wonder if I&#8217;d get called a Ford fanboy for pointing that out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/55057/ford-introduces-incentive-program-as-toyota-recalls-spread/#comment-180166</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the Ford fanboy remarks???
Like already said I think its the paranoid Holden fanboy coming out in you Callus.........

As per what I personally said on the other article, this too is pretty aggressive marketing, but then again thats business......

Someones misfortune is usually someone elses gain.

On the recall topic, and the increasing numbers affected, this stuff affects toyota more so because they use so many common components. If one part fails or is poorly designed, it affects many different models in many different regions. This may be a thing GM and Ford need to be alerted to as they proceed to globalise more models.

Whilst Globalising creates efficiency, you need to make sure quality improves as such examples will be amplified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the Ford fanboy remarks???<br />
Like already said I think its the paranoid Holden fanboy coming out in you Callus&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>As per what I personally said on the other article, this too is pretty aggressive marketing, but then again thats business&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Someones misfortune is usually someone elses gain.</p>
<p>On the recall topic, and the increasing numbers affected, this stuff affects toyota more so because they use so many common components. If one part fails or is poorly designed, it affects many different models in many different regions. This may be a thing GM and Ford need to be alerted to as they proceed to globalise more models.</p>
<p>Whilst Globalising creates efficiency, you need to make sure quality improves as such examples will be amplified.</p>
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