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Kia Sorento Review – Long Term Update

KIA SORENTO

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By Matt Brogan |
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Price: $30,870 to $48,480

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Off-road Sorento still manages to mix it with the big boys… just.

Model Tested:

  • 2009 Kia Sorento Si CRDi; 2.2-litre, four-cylinder, turbo-diesel; six-speed automatic; wagon – $41,990*

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  • Metallic Paint $450 (Fitted – Ebony Black)

Words by Matt Brogan Photos by Andrew Spence & Brendan Nish

This month’s update sees our long term Kia Sorento Si put through CarAdvice’s grueling 4WD test route near Angelsea, Victoria. With enough challenges to try the mettle (pardon the pun) of even the most serious 4WD, Sorento made it to the other end of the course – attempted on the same day by the new Toyota Prado and Mitsubishi Challenger – without the need for a snatch strap.

First challenge for the day was a series of deep wheel ruts aimed at trying the Sorento’s ground clearance. With only 184mm of clearance on offer (at kerb weight), Sorento isn’t exactly the highest riding 4WD on the market, a fact proved by the marks to the front bash plate.

With a little patience and careful wheel placement the track was tackled successfully, but slowly, with my colleagues a little miffed at having to wait for me to pick a cautious line through the deep ruts their higher-riding 4WDs managed with relative ease.

Meeting back with the team at the end of the section, it was obvious just how much of a punishing this early section of the route had taken on the car’s front bash plate. Although no damage was done, it’s evident that the lower ride height that makes Sorento such a (comparatively) sharp handling vehicle on-road, makes it conversely susceptible to the high centres often encountered on well worn 4WD tracks – a fact worth keeping in mind if you’re planning a serious off-road expedition in your own Sorento.

From here the course tightens up in to a winding bush path barely wide enough for the Sorento, but ideal for testing the turning circles of our 4WDs. As the track meanders up and down hill through this heavily treed section, it’s obvious SWB (short wheel base) offerings fair best at this kind of work, though with Sorento’s 10.8 metre turning circle, we made it to the other end without the need to reverse, a positive trait to possess in a 4WD, especially when slippery going or narrow tracks makes multiple maneuvers an unnecessary or risky burden.

The undulating track in this section also gave us cause to test Sorento’s suspension articulation which again proved limited. Bigger moguls saw Sorento cocking it leg on more than one occasion, though somehow I doubt it was simply marking its territory.

Interestingly during these maneuvers we also discovered a little body flex caused the doors to become a touch tight in the jambs (see video below by Paul Maric), something not experienced in either of the other two vehicles at the same juncture.

Kia’s move to a monocoque body with the new generation Sorento seems to explain the movement, which although seems isolated to this particular and rather stressful maneuver, was not a trait noticed on Kia’s previous generation, ladder-framed models.

Fortunately no lasting movement seems to have occured, nor have any rattles developed since.

As we progressed further through our day the hill descent / ascent was next on the agenda. I was a little reluctant to put the Sorento through this next section, as without low-range, felt the undertaking might be a little much for the transmission. It turns out I was right.

Descending the steep, rocky section of the course Kia’s HDC (Hill Descent Control) system was put to task – and it seemed to work relatively well. The Sorento carried a little more pace on the precipitous downhill section than I would have preferred were I at the controls alone, and a little braking was required to avoid deep, body damaging wash-aways, but otherwise no manual intervention was used in our ride to the bottom. The return to the top would prove a little more eventful.

Climbing the hill at pace the centre differential lock seemed happy enough to distribute power evenly between the front and rear wheels, but in slowing down for sections certain to do under-body damage, Sorento’s electronically controlled driveline became confused when splitting torque from a stationary start on the steep incline causing a lot of wheel spin up front (where the power wasn’t required) and almost no drive to the rear (where more drive would have been rather handy).

Suffice to say we made it to the top, and no we didn’t resort to the snatch strap, but there was a lot more throttle required than should have otherwise been necessary to engage the front:rear drive ratio needed to tackle such a climb… and a lot more dust.

Then came the warning light.

It seems my predictions were correct, and upon reaching level ground, I consulted the owner’s manual. It was determined that the unusual little yellow light was indeed the transmission temperature warning, though my nose could have determined the same outcome. So after a brief interval to allow for cooling, the light extinguished itself and we set off again for a brief highway run to our next location.

Heading back in to the bush north of Anglesea a few sandy trails were encountered that would again challenge the Sorento’s all-wheel drive system, though this time with a little more success. It seems the faster pace these wider, flatter tracks allowed agreed with the Sorento and let its centre diff. lock drive both the front and back wheels with a lot more drive. The loose surfaced section proved incident free and we were soon back on roads more familiar with the weekend escapes Sorento’s designers no-doubt had in mind, but not for long.

As any 4WD enthusiasts will attest, good approach and departure angles (along with high ground clearance and satisfactory suspension travel) are important in getting an off-road vehicle in – and more importantly out of – those places the family sedan can’t reach. So with that in mind we found our favourite section of “look at the sky” track to try it out.

The Sorento shines in both approach and departure departments with the spare wheel and exhaust tucked tightly under the Sorento’s large rear end. The overhangs are quite short too, especially up front, meaning the body work is kept safely out of harm’s way when meeting again with the flat section of road.

Sorento’s break-over angle is respectable given its lower ride height – and longer (2,700mm) wheelbase – but even so it didn’t seem to prove an issue during our test, which in all likelihood is as demanding a course as you’d ever expect to try in such a vehicle.

With four people on board for a lot of the day, and the climate control running constantly, fuel economy did suffer during our off-road jaunt. Sorento managed 801 kilometres from the tank this time round (or 8.73L/100km).

While it was slower going than the two companion cars also on test, Sorento did manage to complete the same course admirably tackling all except one track that was only conquered on the same day by Toyota’s new Prado (Challenger also failed to complete).

The tracks tried were all well in excess of what you’d be expecting to try in a vehicle not exactly matched for the conditions, and in that respect, this was a little bit of an unfair test of the Sorento’s abilities.

But reagrdless of this, we made it to the other end unscathed proving that, if you need to tackle such demanding feats, the Sorento will manage… if only just.

A complete picture gallery of the Sorento’s off-road test can be found below. Next time, we tackle an extended range highway trip.

For a full review of the up-spec Kia Sorento Platinum, click on this link.

To follow the progress of the Kia Sorento Si Long Term Review, click on this link.

Fuel Consumption Progress:

  • Fill #1: 8.43L/100km (830km)
  • Fill #2: 8.28L/100km (845km)
  • Fill #3: 8.55L/100km (818km)
  • Fill #4: 8.73L/100km (801km)
  • Fill #5: 7.98L/100km (877km)

 

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  • Andrew

    “but there was a lot more throttle required than should have otherwise been necessary to engage the front:rear drive ratio needed to tackle such a climb”….

    isn’t it for time’s like that the 4wd Lock button is there for??

    All in all pretty much as you would epxect the latest Sorento to perform then, it manages but it is really out of it’s deapth when asked to perform feats it is no longer designed for.

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au Matt Brogan

      The 4WD lock button (centre diff/ lock) was engaged mate. Drive still wasn’t evenly distributed.

      • Andrew

        oh right, it seems the 4wd lock button doesn’t do very much then!

        • Alex

          Another reason to treat the Subaru line up with more respect, goes to show how the ‘competion’ just don’t get it right when it comes to blending on and offroad performance.

          Sorry for sounding like a Sub fanboy, but I reckon the Forester would complete the course with one hand behind its back. Just might lose that plastic splsh guard on the way :)

          • Tony

            the forrester with the 4 spd auto and sohc motor and the 1992 spec. plastic trim?

            that’s not a serious 4wd vehicle either

            the sorrento is the best out of bad bunch with its twin, the Santa Fe

  • HyundaiSmoke

    It needs a V6 or V8 Diesel. Sell dsomething like that a few select markets America included, and this can be a real off roader.

    Sorrento and Sportage here are very popular among young women aged 35-45 in middle management, and Id feel safe if my chick drove one too.

    • HyundaiSmoke

      Well Im just being real Chicks drive KIA trucks in the states, and men Drive Hyundai Trucks. KIA trucks are very safe, wouldnt you want your lady driving one?

      • HyundaiSmoke

        I also keep forgettng I live where American trucks are used as off road trucks 95% of the time, and Foreign products are used as Luxury Trucks, Grocery getter Trucks, and Trucks to impress people.

        • HyundaiSmoke

          However, I love the idea that you can take a Sorrento off road, even though many people here wouldnt dare try. Its good and safe for the snowy winters etc…

          Thanks for testing it guys. Ill see if I can let a few off road Enthusiasts know on this side of the pond. Maybe they can do some mods or something with them.

          • Tomas79

            Seriusly HyundaiSmoke, are you on drugs??
            This is a Softroader, why the hell would a real 4wd enthusiat bother touching one i dont know?!

    • KM

      V6 or V8??

      So you think 436nm of torque isn’t enought to get a car through off roading??

    • o

      V6 is due this year

  • Save it for the track

    Seemed to do pretty well for a soft roader. It’s not a competitor for a Prado, and may be price shopped against a Challenger, but without low range, no one serious about 4wd’ing would be looking at a Sorento or similar. (or shouldn’t be anyway)

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au Matt Brogan

      I should add that we were in no way testing Sorento against the other cars. The other two were there so we could cover three vehicles on one day, and use another vehicle if we got stuck and needed a tow. I only made reference to the vehicles to point out how rough these tracks were.

      • ruralreg

        I’d like an evaluation of the cars handling and safety in wet, icy and/or slippery conditions. Do all the stability/traction and abs work as they should to maintain traction and safety in bad conditions ? Comparisons with other vehicles in the class (say X-trail, Subaru Forester & Outback) would help too

        This is more relevant to most people that off-road performance (although it’s good to know what the car can achieve in that respect.)

  • davie

    A very interesting review.

    I would probably never buy a soft roader such as this and expect it to do as well as it has in your hard core 4WD test. Some monocoque body flex is not unusual when you are diagonally stressing a softroader chassis. For example, the subaru forester form had a thread regarding similar latch alignment issues with the rear hatch when the chassis was being diagonally flexed.

    I am not a potential buyer of this car but overall it seems to do 90% of everything very well.

  • Goodjjp

    umm this is good review
    but I think this review is for wrong car….
    This is like put toyora kluger or nissan murano for off roads…

    • Steve-Poyza

      Actually your suggestion is interesting. Imagine putting a Kluger or Murano through this. Would they do as well as the Sorento did? Anyway, I really enjoyed this review, it seems unusual for a full off-road review (although there was also the recent Challenger review). I’d love to see more like this in the future. Keep up the good work Car Advice.

      • biker

        I would love to see how the Murano would do on the exact same track seeing that it has a similar ground clearance.
        I do appreciate the soft roaders NOT being true 4×4 off-roaders, but I just love this article which does prove that with a little patience and choosing the right lines, one can get a tad further than just sticking to the black stuff.

        I think similar the article about Land Rover celebrating by crossing OZ through deserts. No-one wanted to go in the Freelander, but it didn’t get stuck once!

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au Matt Brogan

      This ‘review’ is simply part of our long term assessment. Take a look at the bottom of the page and you’ll find a link.

  • David Jones

    not a bad effort in terms of keeping up with the big guys and no low range.

  • Callous Aussie

    Nice review. Clearly for a person that has to drive miles upon miles of gravel roads in comfort this is a great car. The fact that it managed to do some reasonably serious off road work is fantastic. Of course this car was never intended as a serious off roader and anyone wanting to use their vehicle for such work wouldn’t buy the Sorento.

    For stints between Weipa and Cairns (100′s of k’s of dirt tracks) this vehicle would be perfect. Especially with its range per tank. Of course it is also well suited to city drving with an elevated view of the world.

    Cheers for the update Matt.

    • Kenny

      During the dry season a RAV4 or an Outlander can do the Weipa Cairns drive without much fuss. This will not be able do the Weipa Cairn during the rainy season, no SUV can cross about 2 meters of water at the Archer river. Also could struggle just after the rainy season, due to the rain the dips get deeper & water flowing ( 200 mm of water).

      • Callous

        200mm? It would handle that no problems. However I am aware of the issues during the wet season. I live up here. In the off-road stakes it is similar in layout to the rav however with its longer wheelbase and wider track I am guessing it may be a smoother car to do it in. Then of course there is the range that has already been mentioned.

        I’d own one of these over a RAV4. I don’t like its styling for starters.

        • Crossy

          I’ll take a RAV4 with a V6 over this any day.
          It’s about the same price, goes better, build quality is better, resale is better and looks a lot better than the Sorento.
          No one in their right mind buys these sort of vehicles to do any serious off roading. It’s just to be able to a bit further than the standard car or get you out of trouble.
          To each his own but the front end design of this vehicle is a major turn off for me.

          • Snatch

            Comparing the V6 to the diesel in this car is a very silly thing to do and shows a complete lack of understanding about their difference. Goes better? 600 k’s down the road the Sorento will wave to you as it heads of into the sunset whilst you stand at the pump.

            Looks better? Toyota don’t do looks. Not lately anyway. Build quality? You clearly don’t spend much time catching up with the auto world do you? Resale value. When you do your price comparison, be sure to match the standard kit of the Sorento when doing your sums.

            Once you start ticking the boxes in the RAV to get it to the Sorento’s price point with a six speed auto and world class diesel engine combo your RAV 4 has suddenly blown out by 10-15k. Eroded resale benefit anyone? Value or money the RAV cannot compete.

            I also believe you entirely missed the point of the test. Fanboy. Oh and there’s a chance your RAV may take you off road unwillingly when the throttle jams. Build quality?

          • Jo

            The RAV4 is built better? I dont think so. Go check the new Koreans in the flesh.

            KIA is right up there when it comes to quality these days. Too bad the same cant be said for Toyota

          • The Real Car Fanatic

            Okay, generally I’m not a fan of Kia, but I have to agree with Snatch and Jo on this one, the Kia Diesel leaves the Toyota V6 for dead and they have greatly improved the built quality of the Kia’s in the last couple of years.

            Seriously, Rav4 V6 over 436 NM of torque and 7.4 litres/100 from a 2 tonne car? You’ve got rocks in your head Crossy.

          • PoloGTI

            I currently co-manage a fleet of over 600 cars for a major car rental brand. We have a lot of RAV4′s on fleet (no V6 though) and yeah it does what its supposed to, roomy, but without sounding sexist is a bit..well…feminine. I could never own one because the boredom of owning one would send me asleep at the wheel.From all accounts I think the Kia has mush more going for it especially that sweet little diesel. I test drove one recently and it is def. no slug!! Looks great, nicely balanced, comfy…and to what amazes me is the fact that I am actually considering buying one (never say never!!). With Hyundai owning Kia now you cant go wrong with reliability. Our Hyundai’s on fleet at work give us the least troubles out of any other brand hands down and with everyone wanting cheap and cheerful…those little Getz’s get worked hard and simply never fail.Holden and Ford (and yes i will touch a few raw nerves with this one…even though I am not saying they are crap by any means) could only wish to have this kind of reliabilty.
            I agree on Toyota “dont do looks” lately they seem to be putting us all in a Coma with bland uninspiring looks. I have been a Toyota fan for years but they seem to have employed the Designers that Kia/Hyundai must have sacked years ago (is it just me or are Korean cars looking better and Toyota reverting to look like 80′s Korean cars these days??). And the new Prado?? WTF is with that…ugly on a stick?? Looks like the old model with a bad case of Gout and severe critical fluid retention…

  • Robin Graves

    Nice review – good car that handles the pace when the going gets rougher than its designed for. Could the loss of drive to the rear wheels and the warning light possibly be the Haldex-style lock-up clutch overheating? the one that sends drive to the rear wheels?

  • hmm

    This car is not a off-loading SUV.
    It is a Urban Utility Vehicle, CUV.

  • HyundaiSmoke

    As I have said, people in many regions of the world wouldnt dare take a KIA off road, but you guys down under can start a trend that can spread globally. I think you should start a trend, and not only start a trend but do things to the KIA to prove they can be the best off-roaders on the planet.

    • Robin Graves

      90% of Americans dont even know where Australia is, so chances of us ‘starting a trend’ I think is pretty low. The previous model Sorrento had genuine off-road capabilties, but this model is not designed for constant off-road work. If you kept on doing it it will break. Beach work, sand tracks, gravel etc are its forte not rutted inclines that require ground clearance and wheel articulation.

      • Stan

        I’m American and I know where Australia is. It’s seems to be a very beautiful country and I plan on visiting there someday. I only wish we could have the 2.2L diesel model here in the USA. Thanks for putting this vehicle through those test. It give me something to think about when purchasing my next vehicle.

  • Novice Grey Nomad

    Very nice report. I’d still like to know how the Kia would tow 2000kg on a pure black top trip?

    • Novice Grey Nomad

      What I mean here is that it is fine to test the Kia doing something that is not really meant to do and come to the conclusion that it does ok at that, but what about testing it for something that it should really be able to do well. ie towing a 2000k van on a long haul trip on tar. Be good to have a review on this. But thanks for your reviews. I agree they are really good Matt.

      • Snatch

        Good point NGN. I’d like to see how it stacks up as a Grey Nomad vehicle. I personally believe this is where it will steal sales from the Cruiser /Patrol brigade.

        • Jabba the Hutt

          The Santefe equivalent has become a popular grey nomad vehicle simply because it creams the patrol and cruiser on economy. I stopped on the way back from Cooktown at a 48 hour rest stop and there were two couples using the santafe . I spoke to one (they weren’t travelling together) and they were full of praise and got rid of a landcruiser to buy it. They were sick of using 18 ltrs per 100k’s in their diesel landcruiser and had almost cut it in half towing an 1300 kg van and all their equipment around Oz.

          Now all Hyundai /Kia need to do is develop a Hilux style ute with that diesel engine in it and they will have a complete lineup.

  • http://caradvice.com.au auto

    i bet it would put a territory to shame over this test track

  • Ken

    For most people, this KIA will never go off road. That’s why KIA aimed it at more of a “City” car with good on road drivability and fuel consumption. The odd trip to the beach, dirt tracks etc will be fine and that’s where this model was aimed.

    The old model with the ladder frame chassis and low range was a good off roader but wasn’t as good on road where most would be driven.

    I personally like the look of the new one with the additional seats, 6 speed gearbox and new diesel engine. For the odd time’s that I venture off road, this new model should handle it with ease. I don’t intend on crossing deep creeks or climbing tall rocks etc so the odd dirt track, gravel road and sand dune won’t be a problem.

    Update us soon CA about the performance towing a caravan weighing in at the limits of the KIA to see if it handles it with ease. I think it will as the previous model pulled strong and was a good tow vehicle.

    • Robin Graves

      Exactly – well said.

  • jeepok

    at that price i’d still go for the jeep cherokee now only 41k driveaway for top of the range limited (i love my 08 cherokee)

    • Robin Graves

      Good luck with that. Winning the Jeep lottery and not getting a lemon the first time was good luck, cant see it happening twice!

      • The Real Car Fanatic

        LOL, so true!

      • jepok

        well so far so good, havent had a single problem since sep 08, my bro-in-law who had his jeep commander since dec 07 is still happy with his, no issues so far (that’s why i got a jeep as well) and my boss at work had his jeep for 8 months now and he’s had no problems as well and really happy with it and took it off-roading every now and then. my next door neighbour had his captiva cx 2 months after i bought my jeep and now his thinking of trading it in due to recurring issues

  • bob

    I wonder how just how much difference a different set of tyres and maybe a set of springs (very typical changes for owners) would make. I was surprised at how much it improved the ability of a friend’s Kluger.

    • Ken

      Pretty standard upgrades for people wishing to go offroad. A standard 2″ lift with a set of springs would be more than adequate for most people and a more aggressive patterned tyre would provide better traction although it would increase road noise. The downfall of 4WD tyres not street tyres. The photos show these tyres are definately aimed for the road.

  • Martin

    Well thanks for all your help in confirming the our choice that the new Sorento is for us. After 2 test drives and many hours of research we ordered a SLi today.. 5 weeks and it will be in the country we cant wait. We love our outback trips and with a family of 4 kids this will be ideal. This off road review has just more than confirmed our decision. I am sure the extended highway driving will show the new diesel’s fuel economy to the max.

  • bob

    Good luck with 5 weeks!.I ordered my sli in early Dec 09 and I’m still waiting.All my reseach indicate this is a good car but once they take your order they don’t seem to be in any great hurry to deliver and dealers don’t seem to know much either.

    • Martin

      Yeah Bob, I am happy to wait though, I work doing ordering in retail and know that what you are originally told doesnt always add up with when you receive the goods… only paid $1000 to order so happy to have a few months with no loan payment. I think it is a great car and will be well worth the wait to get what we want. Will definately be 2010 model anyhow, when other manufactures are still flogging off 2008 and 2009 models.. really shows how far Kia have come and how much ahead of the market they are.. good on em

      • pueter

        Yeah the wait is a good one I ordered an Si and I wont see it untill May if Im lucky, and I would be curious about any updates on towing as I have ordered the manual which reckons it will tow 2.5. Bit thats a lot of weight for a small diesel will have to see.

  • guineapigman

    A question to you folks who ordered one recently and won’t get here till May – will it still come from Korea, or the new factory in USA? The reason I ask is I wonder whether build quality will suffer in American made models…

    • Martin

      My Sli is coming from Korea, not sure about the others, its a longer wait on the manual than the auto, I know that there are no manuals into Australia yet (well thats what the dealer told us anyhow)

      • pueter

        Yeah who knows I was told Korea I will be pissed if its being made in the USA

  • bob

    From what I’ve read the American factory has only just started and is primarily for the American market( v6 & small petrol / not diesel). I think the Sorento’s for Australia still come from Korea

  • guineapigman

    Thanks for that guys. Relieved it won’t come out of USA! I, too, just ordered a manual, and they said May – like you said, Martin, no manuals in Aust. I did a fairly comprehensive comprehensive comparison between Sorento and Santa Fe – is it my imagine or is the handling firmer and more direct on the Kia?

  • Souapp

    I ordered mine (platinum) early December, was told would get i would get it 22nd January, when I called mid January to see how things were going , I was told sorry you might get it by end of March , but nore likely mid April.
    Have since found out that there never was a chance of getting it in Jan.
    The car was never meant to be in Australia until 2010, they just got enough to get some in dealerships to get orders to get in on the Govt. investment allowance and knew they had no chance of getting the actual cars here when they said they would . No-one will ever convince me that the dealers were not completely in it as well.
    When I fronted my dealer about this He said that I could always cancel the contract( knowing full well that if I did that ,I would lose the Investment allowance}as it only applies to a contract signed before the end of Dec.
    Its a pity that The Govt have’nt given some sort of relaxation of that condition to any buyers who have been caught in this dealer/manufacturer rort, enabling them to cancel their contract and buy a different car,I would dump Kia immediately if they did, as would a lot of others. car dealers reputation as grubs is well deserved

    • http://CarAdvice The Salesman.

      Dealers can not foresee production delays. And that is exactly what happened. Something to do with an upgrade to level 5 safety.
      I just delivered my first Platinum that was ordered in November…….
      Every order is now a production order.

      • bill

        Sorry to The Salesman ,But that is absolute rubbish !!!! the dealers knew that the cars would not be here any where near January,And , they knew that anyone who signed up before the end 0f Dec 09 would not be able to pull out of the deal or otherwise they would lose the tax investment allowance (which has driven a lot of the sales in late 09 )
        It was a cynical grab of as much customers money as they could get their grubby hands on, before dec 31 09 , knowing that the buyers could not tell them to shove their cars when they finally found out the truth about when they would get them.
        Its a pity car dealers can’t just sometimes tell the truth, (Sorry car dealers and the truth is a very large contradiction of terms )
        No wonder they have no credibility.They should try every now and again to tell the truth, just to see what it feels like , Who knows maybe it may get to be a habit with some of you….not!!!!!!

        • http://CarAdvice The Salesman

          If a dealer gives false and misleading information that leads to a sale or sales they will be prosecuted and possibly even loose their dealers licence by law. One deal is not worth loosing your ability to trade so I doubt very much you have been lied to.
          A cash grab? How did dealers benefit from the government tax allowance? There was no tax brake for the dealer.
          Dealers are only the distributor they do not manufacture the product.
          On the contract under the heading “delivery” it is stated very clearly the dealer is not responsible for manufactures delays. The dealer is to take reasonable steps to ensure the new car is made available as close to the delivery date estimated. After 190 days if you have not received the product you my cancel the order and receive a full refund of any deposits.
          A dealership is a business like any other. They are entitled to make a profit. Car dealers are one of the few business that will negotiate the profit. You can’t do that at coles or woollies. Try getting a discount from the check out girl next time you go shopping.
          It could be like Korea. The price is fixed and the dealerships are factory owned.

  • Grahame Howe

    Hi,

    I currently have 2005 Sorento & found the review interesting.I’m looking at maybe replacing it with a Freelander 2 diesel automatic. Have you done the equivelent test with the Freelander 2?

    Regards

    Grahame

  • Nick

    Am I correct to assume by this review and the replies by the readers, that the Kia Sorento would have no problem handling regular trips on the beach? I’m looking for a vehicle that I could use to fish the beaches of NJ and NC, plus be reasonably fuel efficient and comfortable for the long trek between the two beach fishing destinations. It’s so hard to get accurate information concerning the capabilities of these vehicles from the U.S. media. I guess no one takes these softroaders offroad? I’d like to have the best of both worlds… a little offroad ability (beaches really) with decent fuel mileage. Would the Sorento fit the bill? Any concerns I should have with selecting this vehicle for that mission?

  • Brian

    How inconvenient is the foot operated parking brake to use? For many people this is a show-stopper.

  • http://caradvice.com.au auto

    why can Kia Aust. get away with advertising the 2010 Sorento with a 4wd high & low range?? This is false and misleading advertising, isn’t it ? go to Kia Aust site click on Sorento click technical button then click rear fender of the car and there it is in black and white. I have notified Kia but with no response.Recently they were advertising it with a 3.3 petrol& a 2.5 diesel on the same site until i informed them about it, three times, they denied it at first and said that i must have been on another site. The next day it was changed.

  • bad_kia

    I don’t even understand why you even bother testing Korean cars. They are not “drivable”. Only japanese and german cars are reliable. They really know how to make cars. Korean cars will never catch up japanese cars. a piece of crap. Sorry, I am just being realistic.

    • CrustyTheClown

      Yeap, you are correct, generations behind, and the Japs wont let them pass them have no fear.]

      The Korans need to worry about the Chinese passing them very soon….

      • PoloGTI

        Do you guys live in a bubble???….in the real world Toyota and Honda have publicly stated at a recent Auto Show in Japan that Hyundai (which owns Kia) are basically their biggest threat. They have commended them on their growth and the quality of their product. As I work 4 a major car rental brand I see how reliable these are 1st hand….Hyundai just took out reliabilty awards throughout the US recently beating Toyota.
        The UK recently conducted a poll on the number of recalls and warrantky claims on new vehciles…Kia was in the top 5 surpassinf VW, Audi, Toyota etc.
        And no…I dont own one. I currently own a VW that has given me more warranty problems than any car I have ever owned…and after looking online at forums..seems i am one of thousands. That blows the whole “German” cars thing outta the water for me (I too used to think the same, thats why I bought VW).
        Assumig you are both of age, do and test drive one….see how these cars will now stand up to any Jap car and generally cost less.

  • guineapigman

    I was once of the view to steer clear of Korean cars, but after considerable research have certainly changed my mind. For a start I’d question how reliable European cars are. The engines maybe, but other things fall apart more rapidly then many Australian cars, as a general comment, with exceptions. My view was that Japanese had the best reliability, but if you look at comparisons with Korean cars – Kia and Hyundai, in recent years, things have certainly evened up. So, go with what the research shows would be my advice and be prepared to change your mind…

    • ABMPSV

      2008 car break down statistik in Germany.

      Small Cars:

      Best: Audi A2, Toyota Aygo, Fiat Panda, BMW Mini, Peugeot 107
      Worst: Ford Ka, Samrt fortwo, Kia Picanto, Hyundai Getz, Nissan Micra

      Small medium Cars:

      Best: Audi A3, Mercedes B, Mercedes A, BMW 1, VW Golf
      Worst: Peugeot 307, Honda Civic, Ford Focus, Renault Megana, Opel Astra

      Medium Cars:

      Best: Mercedes C, Audi A4, BMW 3, VW Passat, Skoda Octavia
      Worst: Ford Mondeo, Opel Vectra, Renault Laguna, Volvo S40/V40/S50, Mazda6

      Big Cars:

      Best: Audi A6, BMW 5, Mercedes E, …..etc

      This is from ADAC Germany. Article saying that “The turnaround is something of an upset, since Japanese cars dominated most of the previous decade in reliability surveys.”

      • PoloGTI

        Germans lookinfg after their own perhaps?? Seems sinister that Audi rates poorly in the UK (and I love Audi\’s!!) and Kia rates highly?? I also know 1st hand that Getz is a fantastic car…I manage a fleet of over 200. As rental cars they get worked harder then any others on fleet (as they are the cheapest to rent, everyone wants value!!) and we never have problems. They keep going…and going…and going….unlike my own new VW…unfortunately.

  • bill

    The so called safety upgrade The Salesman is talking about consisted of the addition of a light on the dash to indicate that the passenger seat belt was fastened or not.it was only needed so kia could get its 5 star ancap rating and was not a big deal , and it was known that it was being done BEFORE the Sorento was even released in Australia ,earlier in 2009.
    I’d love to hear of any salesman who has told customers that there would be a delay of up to 4 months because of it.
    Sorry the spin doctors will have to think of another line of B\S to to cover over this one ,
    So, Salesman ,If that is really your job, do you want to explain how a simple light that was already common knowledge before release, all of a sudden has caused the sort of delays we have had,
    Maybe if the dealers had been honest , Ha ..Ha some of their customers would not be so cheesed off

    • http://CarAdvice The Salesman

      I am a licensed dealer with more than 12 years experience with Kia Motors. I call myself “The Salesman” because that’s what I do. Sell.
      The Ancap 5 star rating did require a passenger seatbelt warning light however the Euroncap did not.
      Kia experienced unprecedented growth globally year on year by more than 52%. This caused a sooner than expected run out of the MY08 model Sorento. To ensure dealers were not without a product in the Kia line up they released the Sorento in Australia prematurely.
      Kia have simply not had time to meet global demand.

      • CrustyTheClown

        Maybe they can use the old lie when i asked why you cannot buy the mighty Kia Pregio anymore.

        Kia told me b/s that “we need the production line for other vehicles” what like magentis, 3 year old new one stll for sale,,,,,,,,anybody?

        The truth was the Pregio was a dirty engine and non emission compliant, why lie about it, still sold in other markets….

        • http://CarAdvice The Salesman

          Actually Hyundai (parent company) decided the Korean commercial range would do better with a H badge. Trust me Kia dealers miss the sales.

          • CrustyTheClown

            I liked mine and still miss it [i called it Bongo!], purchased it for $22k sold it for $15k with 80,000km on it, VERY happy with that, all good,,,,,,,,except the brakes and brake pedal where yuk

            Like i said, still miss the o’l girl……

        • PoloGTI

          So what?? If you did your research you would also know that the Toyota 4.2 diesel and the Nissan 4.2 diesel were also pulled off the market for the same reason (not meeting emission compliance) so they are just as ‘dirty’ hence why you can now only buy a V8 cruiser (diesel) and the 3.0 litre Patrol (diesel). Ask anyone who owns a 4.2 Turbo Diesel Cruiser and they will basically name their price cause they are a fantastic motor and very sought after…..even though by your terms they are “dirty”.
          And Nissan was a much worse story with the Navara rating very poorly with ANCAP due to airbag delays and warning lights….so Kia no worse than “trusted’ brands (if you want to put it that way).

      • Andrew M

        I think you just dobbed Kia in there T/S.

        You now acknowledge it was released prematurely meaning they too well knew the stock wasnt ready.

        Why did they see so much importance on releasing prematurely??? because sales were floating left right and centre with the tax break, and they would miss out otherwise.

        Im thinking Bill has this one sussed correctly

        • http://CarAdvice The Salesman

          The Sorento was released to meet growing customer demand.
          The car already passed the ADR’s. The seat belt warning is simply to give the Sorento the 5 star Ancap rating. It already had the Euro 5 stars
          It should be no surprise a car manufacturer would look to sell as much of the product as possible.
          Its perfectly legal to sell a car with a one star safety rating.
          Of course the car was ready for sale.

          • Andrew M

            And it was also released before stock was ready, yeah?

  • http://caradvice.com.au auto

    where is Matt with his review update on the Sorento, broken down on the track or is it that good that he is still driving it out in the never never

  • http://www.sorentotoronto.com Sorento in Toronto

    The Sorento is defintely on board to compete with others of its class.

  • Beach Lover

    I didnt really read any mention on how the Sorento would go on some of our sand dune beaches. Would it be capable of scaling a sandy hill / dune?

    Is the gear ratios low enough to give it the power to run on sand and not get bogged down?

    thanks for all your comments in advance!

  • BrindiCruiser

    I have read that the Santa Fe goes reasonably well on sandy beaches. You can find footage on youtube of a Santa Fe at Stockton Beach.
    They are very similar cars, but the Kia is another 20mm less clearance than the Santa Fe. Power etc is fine, but just not sure about clearance.

    I would love it if they can cause I have a 2010 Kia Sorento SLi, and I would love to be able to go to Moreton Island.

  • Peter King

    My partner & I have just purchased a Black Kia Sorento Si in Diesel. As we now have added a dog to the family, with 3 little kids, the Sedan we had was becoming a tight squeeze. We liked the well appointed Sli but couldnt justify the extra 3-4 grand. We have added front and rear parking sensors though ($900). We have only owned the vehicle for a week, so we took it for a decent drive through the windy and hilly back roads of the Mornington Peninsula. We are very happy with how it handles and the seats are supportive and comfortable. The engine is smooth & eager to please. The one niggle we have so far is that our iphone cord was faulty and doesn’t work. The dealership have ordered us a new one and it should be here in a week. We are delighted with our purchase, The Sorento is so much better value than a Ford Territory or Toyota Kluger, of which we test drove both and we kept coming back to the Kia. The Holden Captiva (although cheaper) couldnt match the Sorento for internal Space. We traded in a 16 month old Ford Falcon G6 and we have not regretted moving into a Korean built car. I would happily recommend anyone who is looking at a Family vehicle thats flexible, well equipped, comfortable and above all good value for money, the Sorento is certainly worth a test drive, like us you will be surprised by the package!