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	<title>Comments on: Hyundai YF Sonata breaks Korean sales record</title>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 02:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth, you do realise that Hyundai own KIA and their components are shared between them don&#039;t you? If reliablity is an issue with KIA, you would expect that to be the same with Hyundai considering the components are identical. Reliability reports for both these makes are quite good in fact. The old KIA&#039;s that had reliability issues are long gone and the new generation of KIA&#039;s don&#039;t suffer with reliability anymore. Read the reports for the new models on the web.
I have owned several KIA&#039;s over the years and not one has given me a reason not to buy this make again. I service them at the dealer by the book and it keeps on going without trouble.
I think the Sonata/I45 is a nice car personally and if I was looking at a medium size sedan, I would definately take a closer look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth, you do realise that Hyundai own KIA and their components are shared between them don&#8217;t you? If reliablity is an issue with KIA, you would expect that to be the same with Hyundai considering the components are identical. Reliability reports for both these makes are quite good in fact. The old KIA&#8217;s that had reliability issues are long gone and the new generation of KIA&#8217;s don&#8217;t suffer with reliability anymore. Read the reports for the new models on the web.<br />
I have owned several KIA&#8217;s over the years and not one has given me a reason not to buy this make again. I service them at the dealer by the book and it keeps on going without trouble.<br />
I think the Sonata/I45 is a nice car personally and if I was looking at a medium size sedan, I would definately take a closer look.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Langley</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/53209/hyundai-yf-sonata-breaks-korean-sales-record/#comment-209722</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Langley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Market you joking, a luxury style car that you don&#039;t have to pay 70 - 80K for?  Kia is crap it has the worst record for reliability I have several mechanics who say they might be cheap but steer clear of them.  Toyota is complacent in the market and are reeling from that with the recent bad press and recalls.  This is something new and exicting and people are placing orders for it! read the press, Hyundai had to change its whole production strategy to cope with demand.  I30 is a success.  Shak I think you need to rethink the whole game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Market you joking, a luxury style car that you don&#8217;t have to pay 70 &#8211; 80K for?  Kia is crap it has the worst record for reliability I have several mechanics who say they might be cheap but steer clear of them.  Toyota is complacent in the market and are reeling from that with the recent bad press and recalls.  This is something new and exicting and people are placing orders for it! read the press, Hyundai had to change its whole production strategy to cope with demand.  I30 is a success.  Shak I think you need to rethink the whole game.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Langley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Langley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People speak such rubbish about Hyundai not selling cars, or that this one is better than that one.  End of the day Hyundai has been in business for 20 years, one manufacturing site can churn out 1.6million cars a year.  I say those numbers tell me regardless of the Australia market for which global we are small potatoe, they will succeed. go out and try the car, if you like, buy the car simple principle really&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People speak such rubbish about Hyundai not selling cars, or that this one is better than that one.  End of the day Hyundai has been in business for 20 years, one manufacturing site can churn out 1.6million cars a year.  I say those numbers tell me regardless of the Australia market for which global we are small potatoe, they will succeed. go out and try the car, if you like, buy the car simple principle really&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: HyundaiSmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>HyundaiSmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 02:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyundai leads in US small car fuel economy as well. As noted on the EPA website.  KIA has more trucks than Hyundai so they were ranked 3 MPG lower than Hyundai. 

The Whole point of the study was to influence policy to get rid of as many trucks as possible. Trucks are a big contributor to the problems here in the States.  We dont need that many trucks from these brands in the first place.  The car companies show why the average Joe needs some type of lmited but neccessary government intervention.  If we let the market dictate condtions, we will end up another lost civilization bannished to the annals of insignificance only for some historian to dig us up 1000 years from now, to say &quot;How stupid were these assholes.&quot;

Think of the Frog boiling slowly in water experiment, but this time we are the Frog, and the boiling water is the Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyundai leads in US small car fuel economy as well. As noted on the EPA website.  KIA has more trucks than Hyundai so they were ranked 3 MPG lower than Hyundai. </p>
<p>The Whole point of the study was to influence policy to get rid of as many trucks as possible. Trucks are a big contributor to the problems here in the States.  We dont need that many trucks from these brands in the first place.  The car companies show why the average Joe needs some type of lmited but neccessary government intervention.  If we let the market dictate condtions, we will end up another lost civilization bannished to the annals of insignificance only for some historian to dig us up 1000 years from now, to say &#8220;How stupid were these assholes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Think of the Frog boiling slowly in water experiment, but this time we are the Frog, and the boiling water is the Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Hyundais fuel consumption as a company is quite low, but you must consider the likes of GM, Toyota and Ford have truck ranges, and sell masses of them in the US.
I would be interested to see those sort of figures reflected amongst classes rather than the whole of a company. Perhaps just concentrate on passenger car averages to start with...
Im sure if Toyota dumped their truck range overnight you wouldnt see hyundai top the average. Even the typical US makes in GM and especially Ford are starting to be bench marks in passenger economy.

Those sort of stats never really give a clear picture when talking advancements</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Hyundais fuel consumption as a company is quite low, but you must consider the likes of GM, Toyota and Ford have truck ranges, and sell masses of them in the US.<br />
I would be interested to see those sort of figures reflected amongst classes rather than the whole of a company. Perhaps just concentrate on passenger car averages to start with&#8230;<br />
Im sure if Toyota dumped their truck range overnight you wouldnt see hyundai top the average. Even the typical US makes in GM and especially Ford are starting to be bench marks in passenger economy.</p>
<p>Those sort of stats never really give a clear picture when talking advancements</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seppos dont get the Septic Tank thing.  They tend to spill out as much effluent as the real thing tho!

Hyundai and Kia are on the way up tho - big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seppos dont get the Septic Tank thing.  They tend to spill out as much effluent as the real thing tho!</p>
<p>Hyundai and Kia are on the way up tho &#8211; big time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go you little crystal balling septic tank!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go you little crystal balling septic tank!</p>
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		<title>By: whitbomb07</title>
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		<dc:creator>whitbomb07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i40 is currently the name used o/s for the stationwagon equivalent of this. Hyundai Aus wants to use i40 but there is doubt whether it will be approved as it may cause confusion between sedan and station wagon versions.

So I&#039;d say they&#039;ll probably go for i45 (or maybe just keep YF?) and possibly later on we&#039;ll see the station wagon i40 get here aswell.

Regards

Whitbomb07</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i40 is currently the name used o/s for the stationwagon equivalent of this. Hyundai Aus wants to use i40 but there is doubt whether it will be approved as it may cause confusion between sedan and station wagon versions.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d say they&#8217;ll probably go for i45 (or maybe just keep YF?) and possibly later on we&#8217;ll see the station wagon i40 get here aswell.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Whitbomb07</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 03:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its i40.  The current Sonata is on sale in some countries as the i40</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its i40.  The current Sonata is on sale in some countries as the i40</p>
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		<title>By: HyundaiSmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>HyundaiSmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aviator that&#039;s what KIA is for smart guy.  Our KIA will be a sportier smarter, more reliable and a better more relevant to the times Toyota.  2 Economy brands under the same roof cannibalizing each other&#039;s sales was foolish.

Both of the brands had to do something. 

Think about this:

Just on Hyundai alone, as you guys talk about high gas prices, and international events making them that way tied to a “New Normal” Economy, Hyundai’s future is super bright as it goes upmarket.

Ill Explain:

Hyundai is the most fuel efficient automake in the US already. Could you imagine 5-10 years from now, here comes Hyundai the savior of the High Volume luxury Market with their highly fuel effieicent and reliable powertrains? As the years go by the cars become more sophisticated, and they keep the prices relatively low the following that “Frugality” thing.

Hyundai is totaly banking on High Gas Prices.

They have the bandwith like Benz, why waste Billions on a Luxury brand, when you can acutally make even more money through a global upmarketing scheme of the Hyundai brand itself. 

Look at Hyundai Europe, the i20 is as good as a Merc A class in interior fit and finish, and the Merc A-class is about $7500 more. It has more powerful and Fuel efficient powertrains than the Benz too. US will get small cars functoning in this manner like this and the Europeans will get the big Sedans. Its s much cheaper, and with a more diverse customer choice and option range, you can make more money. 

Taking 20 years to build Hyundai into a Premier Luxury name is cheaper and will make tons more money, than a $2 Billion Dollar Mistake (That could be a $20 Billion Dollar Mistake if things get really bad on the gas price front) thein building another useless RWD Luxury Brand.

The changes to the rest of the brands will happen as well. Have some imagination. Most of you didnt see Bye bye: Saturn, Pontiac, SAAB, Chrysler (Almost), Hummer, Volvo (almost), etc… I saw this Years ago. 

I saw it coming. Those brands are very irrelevant to the times we live in, and they couldnt be modified to fit that role either to be more modern. Like Beer, Potato Chips, etc… Cars have a Brand dying-off period too. 

Guess what???!!!

THE TIME IS NOW!!!!!




You guys are the most ignorant lot Ive ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aviator that&#8217;s what KIA is for smart guy.  Our KIA will be a sportier smarter, more reliable and a better more relevant to the times Toyota.  2 Economy brands under the same roof cannibalizing each other&#8217;s sales was foolish.</p>
<p>Both of the brands had to do something. </p>
<p>Think about this:</p>
<p>Just on Hyundai alone, as you guys talk about high gas prices, and international events making them that way tied to a “New Normal” Economy, Hyundai’s future is super bright as it goes upmarket.</p>
<p>Ill Explain:</p>
<p>Hyundai is the most fuel efficient automake in the US already. Could you imagine 5-10 years from now, here comes Hyundai the savior of the High Volume luxury Market with their highly fuel effieicent and reliable powertrains? As the years go by the cars become more sophisticated, and they keep the prices relatively low the following that “Frugality” thing.</p>
<p>Hyundai is totaly banking on High Gas Prices.</p>
<p>They have the bandwith like Benz, why waste Billions on a Luxury brand, when you can acutally make even more money through a global upmarketing scheme of the Hyundai brand itself. </p>
<p>Look at Hyundai Europe, the i20 is as good as a Merc A class in interior fit and finish, and the Merc A-class is about $7500 more. It has more powerful and Fuel efficient powertrains than the Benz too. US will get small cars functoning in this manner like this and the Europeans will get the big Sedans. Its s much cheaper, and with a more diverse customer choice and option range, you can make more money. </p>
<p>Taking 20 years to build Hyundai into a Premier Luxury name is cheaper and will make tons more money, than a $2 Billion Dollar Mistake (That could be a $20 Billion Dollar Mistake if things get really bad on the gas price front) thein building another useless RWD Luxury Brand.</p>
<p>The changes to the rest of the brands will happen as well. Have some imagination. Most of you didnt see Bye bye: Saturn, Pontiac, SAAB, Chrysler (Almost), Hummer, Volvo (almost), etc… I saw this Years ago. </p>
<p>I saw it coming. Those brands are very irrelevant to the times we live in, and they couldnt be modified to fit that role either to be more modern. Like Beer, Potato Chips, etc… Cars have a Brand dying-off period too. </p>
<p>Guess what???!!!</p>
<p>THE TIME IS NOW!!!!!</p>
<p>You guys are the most ignorant lot Ive ever seen.</p>
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