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	<title>Comments on: Busted: Holden VF Commodore spy photos</title>
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		<title>By: Churchy</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/50034/busted-holden-vf-commodore-spy-photos/#comment-233749</link>
		<dc:creator>Churchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 08:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not much change in the Commodore till 2014 when the new body sheet met change comes in , my contacts in styling recon it looks very jap looking ,so till then expect not much change in anything and bugger all in the engine depts that will gain better fuel improvements &quot; BUT &quot; Holden will say it does.
Currently work has started on the next generation Commodore 2017 but thats still in progress at this stage.

Most of the parts are sourced from o/s countries as little is manufactured for the Holden here as GM has world wide told its GM o/s plants to source from cheaper countries and realy not supporting Aussie supply companys, but some stuff is made here. Its roughly 85% to 95% o/s sourced parts as Holden only assemble V6 and cars only but they do make panels and some plasitc parts.

They make Commodore in China &amp; Brazil but it won&#039;t be long till China ramps up and Holden will import its product.

 Cheers Holden Insider</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much change in the Commodore till 2014 when the new body sheet met change comes in , my contacts in styling recon it looks very jap looking ,so till then expect not much change in anything and bugger all in the engine depts that will gain better fuel improvements &#8221; BUT &#8221; Holden will say it does.<br />
Currently work has started on the next generation Commodore 2017 but thats still in progress at this stage.</p>
<p>Most of the parts are sourced from o/s countries as little is manufactured for the Holden here as GM has world wide told its GM o/s plants to source from cheaper countries and realy not supporting Aussie supply companys, but some stuff is made here. Its roughly 85% to 95% o/s sourced parts as Holden only assemble V6 and cars only but they do make panels and some plasitc parts.</p>
<p>They make Commodore in China &amp; Brazil but it won&#8217;t be long till China ramps up and Holden will import its product.</p>
<p> Cheers Holden Insider</p>
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		<title>By: Zeek</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/50034/busted-holden-vf-commodore-spy-photos/#comment-204471</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 16:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXACLY! if you dont like the forum, LEAVE its as simple as that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXACLY! if you dont like the forum, LEAVE its as simple as that!</p>
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		<title>By: Zeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 15:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE CARS LEAVE THE FORUM WANK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE CARS LEAVE THE FORUM WANK!</p>
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		<title>By: Zeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 15:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its not, its was only the G8 SS edition commodores. When i worked at holden i saw them come in on the truck, i thought to my self, WOW. but unfortunately a new commodore wasn&#039;t the case. www.vfcommodore.com has a discussion page. There is an anonymous inside source person that reveals facts about the VF, i strongly recommend you check this information out. Very revealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not, its was only the G8 SS edition commodores. When i worked at holden i saw them come in on the truck, i thought to my self, WOW. but unfortunately a new commodore wasn&#8217;t the case. <a href="http://www.vfcommodore.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vfcommodore.com</a> has a discussion page. There is an anonymous inside source person that reveals facts about the VF, i strongly recommend you check this information out. Very revealing.</p>
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		<title>By: HSV Owner</title>
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		<dc:creator>HSV Owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WRONG!!! The current 4Ltr was poached from Jaguar while they were owned by Ford!! So essentially it is an English design!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WRONG!!! The current 4Ltr was poached from Jaguar while they were owned by Ford!! So essentially it is an English design!</p>
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		<title>By: HSV Owner</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/50034/busted-holden-vf-commodore-spy-photos/#comment-199266</link>
		<dc:creator>HSV Owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can back up what Shane is saying about the early Commodores. They were very closely related to the Opel Rekord. So much so that I had it confirmed (in 1989) by a former GMH employee that was employed at the now defunct Dandenong plant. What was his sole job in the beginning of the Commodore you ask?? He cleaned front guards of surface rust after they had been exported from Germany in order to use the excess stock that Opel did not need anymore as it was a superceded model. Apparently the only major difference between an Opel Rekord and a VB-C Commodore was the slightly more pointed nose on the Commodore variant so it could accomodate a straight six instead of the 4cyl motor that Opel used in the Rekord. That and maybe different headlights and tail lights. Merely cosmetic really. Oh, and before you do jump on it, I do believe they had to re-inforce the body too. (Probably backs up the &quot;broke in half in outback testing&quot; point made earlier!). And a couple of other small ones, All Commodores (except VL) have been released in the July-Oct part of the year. VL only differed due to the Unleaded Fuel legislation of 1986 and was released in Feb. VB was released in 1978(Oct) so your doubt was right Shane. VT was the longest running model(3yrs) until the VE. It also shares the honour of being the only Commodore model to sell 1,000,000 variants. An honour only matched by the HQ in the whole Holden lineup. Lay off Daewoo, they only sprung forth from a GM manufacturing plant for Opel anyway. The 1.5i was only an Early 90&#039;s Astra re-badged, and guess who supplied the 4cyl 1.5 motor? AUSSIES! So essentially, Daewoo was and and now is again GM and partially Aussie (OUCH that hurts huh?). Small bit of trivia. If you own a VY Calais, Berlina or any Y Series HSV (like I do) pull your front centre dash panel out and read who made your cup holders...it may shock you. GenIII&#039;s were made in BOTH Canada &amp; Mexico with the latter being the ones most prone to piston slap. Last of all, have a close look at those pictures of the supposed VF. The headlights are different. They appear to be lower (ala FG Falcon G6) nearer the grill. Would this also suggest an inner Low beam like the FG too?? We&#039;ll have to wait and see!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can back up what Shane is saying about the early Commodores. They were very closely related to the Opel Rekord. So much so that I had it confirmed (in 1989) by a former GMH employee that was employed at the now defunct Dandenong plant. What was his sole job in the beginning of the Commodore you ask?? He cleaned front guards of surface rust after they had been exported from Germany in order to use the excess stock that Opel did not need anymore as it was a superceded model. Apparently the only major difference between an Opel Rekord and a VB-C Commodore was the slightly more pointed nose on the Commodore variant so it could accomodate a straight six instead of the 4cyl motor that Opel used in the Rekord. That and maybe different headlights and tail lights. Merely cosmetic really. Oh, and before you do jump on it, I do believe they had to re-inforce the body too. (Probably backs up the &#8220;broke in half in outback testing&#8221; point made earlier!). And a couple of other small ones, All Commodores (except VL) have been released in the July-Oct part of the year. VL only differed due to the Unleaded Fuel legislation of 1986 and was released in Feb. VB was released in 1978(Oct) so your doubt was right Shane. VT was the longest running model(3yrs) until the VE. It also shares the honour of being the only Commodore model to sell 1,000,000 variants. An honour only matched by the HQ in the whole Holden lineup. Lay off Daewoo, they only sprung forth from a GM manufacturing plant for Opel anyway. The 1.5i was only an Early 90&#8242;s Astra re-badged, and guess who supplied the 4cyl 1.5 motor? AUSSIES! So essentially, Daewoo was and and now is again GM and partially Aussie (OUCH that hurts huh?). Small bit of trivia. If you own a VY Calais, Berlina or any Y Series HSV (like I do) pull your front centre dash panel out and read who made your cup holders&#8230;it may shock you. GenIII&#8217;s were made in BOTH Canada &amp; Mexico with the latter being the ones most prone to piston slap. Last of all, have a close look at those pictures of the supposed VF. The headlights are different. They appear to be lower (ala FG Falcon G6) nearer the grill. Would this also suggest an inner Low beam like the FG too?? We&#8217;ll have to wait and see!</p>
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		<title>By: Zeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on bud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on bud</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uh we live in 2010, and the &#039;80&#039;s were quiet a while ago, so i think Holden may have changed somewhat since then. They now import cars from this mysterious place called Korea. They look like the Japanese, and have the same technology as the Japanese, but their cars somehow cost lolly money. It has to be some crazy black magic, by your logic off course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh we live in 2010, and the &#8217;80&#8242;s were quiet a while ago, so i think Holden may have changed somewhat since then. They now import cars from this mysterious place called Korea. They look like the Japanese, and have the same technology as the Japanese, but their cars somehow cost lolly money. It has to be some crazy black magic, by your logic off course.</p>
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		<title>By: keith berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you people ever heard of a VF valiant from 1969 to 1970 made in australia because thats the real VF. holden should be suied by chrysler from calling there so called commodore which was a hudson. so holden to make there own models up and  not take models from others</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you people ever heard of a VF valiant from 1969 to 1970 made in australia because thats the real VF. holden should be suied by chrysler from calling there so called commodore which was a hudson. so holden to make there own models up and  not take models from others</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious! Idoit and ewedoit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious! Idoit and ewedoit!</p>
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