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	<title>Comments on: BMW, Brilliance to open second Chinese plant under joint venture</title>
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		<title>By: jackhua</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47637/bmw-brilliance-open-second-chinese-plant-under-joint-venture/#comment-299244</link>
		<dc:creator>jackhua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As China only allows joint ventures to produce cars,evey car maker must cooperate with a local Chinese partner.  Sometimes,it comes to the quality issues when selcting the components suppliers when the local partner wants to retain more profit to the plant.  So even in local China market, consumers are more willing to buy German made BMW although it would be more expensive than the local produced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As China only allows joint ventures to produce cars,evey car maker must cooperate with a local Chinese partner.  Sometimes,it comes to the quality issues when selcting the components suppliers when the local partner wants to retain more profit to the plant.  So even in local China market, consumers are more willing to buy German made BMW although it would be more expensive than the local produced.</p>
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		<title>By: Car Fanatic</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47637/bmw-brilliance-open-second-chinese-plant-under-joint-venture/#comment-166316</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Fanatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly! My kids have toys made in UK, Germany and France and they are no more resilient or better made than the chinese ones. But we did pay more when we bought them thinking they would be superior, years down the track many of the chinese toys are still working, I&#039;ve been ripped off by generalising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly! My kids have toys made in UK, Germany and France and they are no more resilient or better made than the chinese ones. But we did pay more when we bought them thinking they would be superior, years down the track many of the chinese toys are still working, I&#8217;ve been ripped off by generalising.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47637/bmw-brilliance-open-second-chinese-plant-under-joint-venture/#comment-166310</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the country a product is built in, it&#039;s how it&#039;s built with parts from where and with what materials. It&#039;s not just final assembly and plant management. An automobile is made up of a lot of different parts and materials subcontracted from other manufacturers. Especially volume models like 3 and 5 series BMW&#039;s. You don&#039;t have to worry about just the happy, competent worker on the floor -- you have to worry about all the corners cut in everything from the steel used to the rubber to the relays and electric motors and even the quality of the plastic on the wires in the harness. All from outside contractors, most operating sweat shops.

Quality manufacturers in Japan and Korea have been burned plenty with parts from China when they try to save a buck. I&#039;ve read several news stories about it. 

You&#039;d have to have rocks in your head to buy a car actually made in China and pay premium BMW prices. Complete product suicide if they try and sell them outside of China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the country a product is built in, it&#8217;s how it&#8217;s built with parts from where and with what materials. It&#8217;s not just final assembly and plant management. An automobile is made up of a lot of different parts and materials subcontracted from other manufacturers. Especially volume models like 3 and 5 series BMW&#8217;s. You don&#8217;t have to worry about just the happy, competent worker on the floor &#8212; you have to worry about all the corners cut in everything from the steel used to the rubber to the relays and electric motors and even the quality of the plastic on the wires in the harness. All from outside contractors, most operating sweat shops.</p>
<p>Quality manufacturers in Japan and Korea have been burned plenty with parts from China when they try to save a buck. I&#8217;ve read several news stories about it. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d have to have rocks in your head to buy a car actually made in China and pay premium BMW prices. Complete product suicide if they try and sell them outside of China.</p>
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		<title>By: crouchy</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47637/bmw-brilliance-open-second-chinese-plant-under-joint-venture/#comment-165881</link>
		<dc:creator>crouchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who let they emotions run wild ... I said above that there would be no difference in the end product...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who let they emotions run wild &#8230; I said above that there would be no difference in the end product&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: crouchy</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47637/bmw-brilliance-open-second-chinese-plant-under-joint-venture/#comment-165879</link>
		<dc:creator>crouchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but i paid bugger all for this computer. I&#039;m not saying that they would be of inferior quality (See: above) but its just something you pay for when you go badge-snob shopping....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but i paid bugger all for this computer. I&#8217;m not saying that they would be of inferior quality (See: above) but its just something you pay for when you go badge-snob shopping&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Enzo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47637/bmw-brilliance-open-second-chinese-plant-under-joint-venture/#comment-165847</link>
		<dc:creator>Enzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;troll&gt; If a car with &quot;Lotus engineering&quot; can come from Malaysia, I don&#039;t see why a BMW cannot come from China. &lt;/troll&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;troll&gt; If a car with &#8220;Lotus engineering&#8221; can come from Malaysia, I don&#8217;t see why a BMW cannot come from China. &lt;/troll&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ mate can assure you the price wont come down as BMW dont want to sully their &quot;premium&quot; image. And whats so bad with Chinese quality. They make the clothes ur all probably wearing. Oh and BTW most technology doesnt come from China it comes from either Taiwan or Japan. China is good with Cloth and raw materials.One day China along with India wil overtake the US and Japan i just hope im around when it happens to watch the new world become the old world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ mate can assure you the price wont come down as BMW dont want to sully their &#8220;premium&#8221; image. And whats so bad with Chinese quality. They make the clothes ur all probably wearing. Oh and BTW most technology doesnt come from China it comes from either Taiwan or Japan. China is good with Cloth and raw materials.One day China along with India wil overtake the US and Japan i just hope im around when it happens to watch the new world become the old world.</p>
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		<title>By: gearboxdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>gearboxdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chinese built BMW are only for local Chinese market. Australia will continue source most of its BMWs from South Africa and Germany.

If the day comes where we get Chinese made BMWs, hopefully the price tag will come down not the profit margin :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese built BMW are only for local Chinese market. Australia will continue source most of its BMWs from South Africa and Germany.</p>
<p>If the day comes where we get Chinese made BMWs, hopefully the price tag will come down not the profit margin <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Toxic_Horse.
Now everything is made in China.
Your TV, your Ipod, your computer.

I think the Chinese quality is ok</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Toxic_Horse.<br />
Now everything is made in China.<br />
Your TV, your Ipod, your computer.</p>
<p>I think the Chinese quality is ok</p>
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		<title>By: Marcoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said !!</p>
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