Comments on: Electric Vehicles will not solve environmental woes – report

By: hsr0601

hsr0601 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:55:54 +0000

1. The EV battery is expected to act as a catalyst to accelerate development of sustainable power, specifically as a storage for wind power at nighttime and for solar panel system via recycling. In return, this situation has a chance to bring a solid win-win outcome — rendering EVs affordable.

2. In many cases, power plants like a nuclear reactor maintain operation during night, and EVs could take full advantage of the surplus energy :

With the concept of “V2H” (vehicle to home), the vehicle can supply 100V electricity stored in its on-board lithium-ion batteries to electric appliances in a house.

It is possible to charge the batteries at night, when electricity is cheaper, and use it for home appliances during daytime, Mitsubishi Motors said.

And the company claims that the batteries can provide almost all the electricity used in a normal household throughout the day.

By: lazybones

lazybones — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:36:13 +0000

I’ve contacted the ETA, and they have sent through the original 52 page PDF. Will upload somewhere if anyone else needs a copy.

By: bob

bob — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:18:58 +0000

All this is very interesting. But have been thinking about the recent explosion in cars in India, and China. This is double sided. Initially it will be a MASSIVE environmental problem. But since they’re part of the “new” emerging economies, that’s where we’ll see some interesting innovations for providing affordable solutions to these problems.

Of course that’s assuming they realise there’s a problem.

By: bob

bob — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:12:25 +0000

Electric Rail.

By: bob

bob — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:11:57 +0000

I hope so.

Except if we have to drop to the shops to get a bottle of coke. Might have to leave it sit for a bit before we open it.

By: bob

bob — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:09:34 +0000

It says Hybrids. It doesn’t say plug-in hybrids.

By: John of Perth

John of Perth — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:45:39 +0000

I have been wondering for some time what are the alternatives being presented for the transport/heavy haulage/mining/shipping sector – I cannot see how electric is an option here. Cars represent a smaller proportion of this consumption equation.

By: Car News and Reviews

Car News and Reviews — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:41:00 +0000

The car makers are adapting to the environmental demands. Now it’s electricity producing companies’ turn to follow. They are the next critical link in the chain.

Personally I am very optimistic about electric cars. And I guess the next years will prove me right. ;)

By: lazybones

lazybones — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:52:14 +0000

I would guess the report doesn’t consider the Co2 emissions from producing oil and refining it to petrol. The comparison is probably based only on tail pipe emissions of ICE cars compared to energy production emssions from coal to make electricity for EV’s. This would explain the bizarre comparison with Hybrid cars.

By: Peter

Peter — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:42:56 +0000

http://www.transportenvironmen.....loopholes/

By: Carz

Carz — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:43:13 +0000

There seems to be lots of electric car concepts…but it sounds very promising and reasonable. It’s also possible that electric cars would be the main vehicles of the future.

By: Yanzo

Yanzo — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:27:37 +0000

i think city living and parkour will be the future

By: MJ

MJ — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:03:18 +0000

Hmmm, 12 years ago, how many people had mobile phones? Hardly anybody. Now there are over 4 billion active mobile phones worldwide!

Now hardly anybody has electric cars, in 12 years, some are predicting that more than 50% of all new cars will be electric. Believe it.

By: lazybones

lazybones — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:32:18 +0000

CA do you have the link to the original report so we can read it?

“sales of electric cars were likely to result in higher overall CO2 emissions and oil consumption.” Confused about that statement!

By: Enzo

Enzo — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:23:36 +0000

Matt, could you please provide a link to the report? Thank you.

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:04:43 +0000

This is pretty predictable positioning in the lead up to Copenhagen.

The report states “hybrids perform better if the electricity comes from coal.” ???? HUH. Under what possible logic is it better to charge (as yet to be sold to the general public) plug-in hybrids with power generated by coal as opposed to wind or solar?

And commentators are trying to claim this report sounds ‘logical’ ??? LOL

The ‘report’ failed to include (as most negative EV reports do) the facts that EVs consume as little as 1/10th the energy of a comparable ICE car per mile, so following that LOGIC 10x EVs can be powered with the energy used by a single ICE car.

By: Alan

Alan — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:40:04 +0000

Good to see that someone in the eletric car camp has a brain and some common sense. This report seems to be very logical, and is also the main reason why I don’t believe in electric cars for Australia seeing as the majority of our power comes from carbon based sources.

By: bob

bob — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:52:48 +0000

Yep. Its all pretty logical.

Now lets sit back and watch how the Carbon-based energy suppliers will start to claim that the authors are cross dressing weirdos and should not be believed. How decarbonising the energy industry will destroy the economy and the world with it. (although it won’t matter much because we won’t be able to breath or see through the smog by then)

By: AB

AB — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:38:31 +0000

Sounds like a good honest report.