Comments on: New Toyota Prado to go on sale later this month

By: Sean

Sean — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:31:49 +0000

I have owned two prados long weel base one the v6 3.4 litre 5 speed manaul and i had alot clutch problems and it had 5 clutches fitted the last one didn’t slip at all and with the other clutches in it you could see the gear shifter move left to right the same with the clutch pedel if you put the foot just touching the side i wouldn’t get another petrol v6 manaul again but i would get a diesel manaul anyday. I profer the turbo diesel automatic and never had a problem with it and kept up with the service. But driving a manaul diesel to a petrol manaul the diesel is easer to drive and there great if anyone has a learner driver in the family it would be better being a 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine for them to be able to drive. But i’m looking at the 3 door prado short wheel base wich has a 3000 kg towing compasity with a diesel automatic and my first 4wd was a 3 door patrol with a petrol 4.2 litre motor and if nissan bring back the 3 door patrol i would think about it and all vechelles i have had has only been 4wds and also nissan should bring out a 3 door pathfinder that would bring the prices down and the 3 door prado is about $10,000 cheaper then the 5 door prado but only has one fuel tank and only comes in diesel only unless they bring out a v6 version

By: reliable cruiser

reliable cruiser — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:41:16 +0000

have 1995 cruiser 80 series . done 350,000 km since new. changed starter once. water pump once. alternator once. batteries about 4 times ? 5 times. tyres last about 70K to 80k . aircon replaced once. just replaced rotors and callipers on all 4 wheels at 350K for first time. Prior to this just replaced discs and odd wheel bearing ( at routine services ). Manual still original clutch !!! . still original gearbox. drives like new one solid feel .no rattles . right rear door remote lock does not work .Has to be locked and unlocked manually. Thinking about upgrading to a PRADO in next few days 2010 diesel. Should I go petrol or diesel ?. Should I choose another “suv” .? Value your opinions .

By: Stephen

Stephen — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:25:23 +0000

Skodama, what reliability issues do you post about? I have had a 120 series for 6 years. She has been up the Cape, across the Simpson and through the Strez. Not to mention a cast of other places reached by bitumen. The only problem I have experienced is getting my Coopers to last beyond 80,000. I would dearly love to buy a new one but my wife says I can’t until I break the one I have… and that will never happen.

By: Skoda man

Skoda man — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:37:26 +0000

Perhaps Toyota trading on past reputations is coming home to roost, as the current model Prado has had some reliability issues.

By: Peter

Peter — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:18:32 +0000

That’s surprising. I’ve had two prados over the years and they’ve been both bullet proof.

By: Tomas79

Tomas79 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:03:05 +0000

Wheelnut,
Please try to comprehend the comments first, before you wonder off into your ussual stupid rant!

It was Thommo who said”note that ther is NO such thing as a 4WD class, even the LandRovers and ‘Cruisers are classed as Large SUVs”!!
In other words, he saying there is no difference between softroaders, and offroaders (normal 4wds)!!

By: Tomas79

Tomas79 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:56:45 +0000

Thommo says:”when people talk about cars as a particular class they mean as classified by the official system of VFACTS not some obscure system invented by some random magazine.”

Mate, that is pretty stupid thing your saying!! Your not wheelnut by any chance?? Because only he would say something stupid as that, and is absolutely clueless when it comes to 4wds!
The magazines uses the same grouping convention, normal people use. It is grouped according to physical/utilitarian attributes!! Vfacts only cares about sales figures, not the physical/utilitarian properties of the vehicles, as their buyers do!! Equivalent VFACT reports in other countries use different grouping to VFACTs, this is because once again, they care about sales statistics, not grouping of vehicles according to physical/utilitarian properties!!

Thommo says:”BTW “hardcore” is something that caters for a specific enthusiast group, ie “Overland Australia … it is a magazine for 4wd community/enthusiasts” Talk about grasping at straws to try to invent yourself out of an uninformed hole you’ve dug for yourself.”

Mate seriously, you are the one coming across as completely uniformed.
Do you even own a 4wd?? Because i doubt a genuine owner would dribble so much crap?!!
Actually “Hardcore” refers to 4wd owners that heavily modify their vehicles for special competitions and or purposes. Most hardcore 4wd aren’t road legal in Australia!! Overlander magazine, just caters for the normal 4wd enthusiats/community. ie The everyday 4wd buyers!!
Sure a lot of Hardcore 4wd enthusiasts purchase the mag too, but they aren’t the target market!!
Hardcore 4wd enthusiast ussually go for australian 4wd action, And australian 4wd Action Customs!!

No wonder you are into softroaders, you probably get most of your information from tv ads!! No wonder you seem to think there is no difference between softroaders, and true offroaders!!

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:10:31 +0000

Tom-assumes says:By the way SUV means a lot of different things to different people….”

Thats true Some people may regard the Freelander or Kluger as a SUV but would call the Prado or Pajero etc a 4×4… or they may group them together
based on size price features seating capacity etc…

But yet again because someone’s opinion as to whether or not a car is an SUV or a 4×4 etc is different to yours; you feel as though you have the god given right to set them straight; to make them see the error of their ways.. and to start seeing “The world according to Tomas” .

Which you’re unlikely to do when you reply with insults and personal atttacks and insults etc.

By: Thommo

Thommo — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:30:43 +0000

Tomas, when people talk about cars as a particular class they mean as classified by the official system of VFACTS not some obscure system invented by some random magazine.
As such every single one of your useless statements hold no credability and my comments still stand, since that was the context in which they were made.
You can’t keep changeing the rules as you go because you lose under the real rules.

BTW “hardcore” is something that caters for a specific enthusiast group, ie “Overland Australia … it is a magazine for 4wd community/enthusiasts” Talk about grasping at straws to try to invent yourself out of an uninformed hole you’ve dug for yourself.

By: Tomas79

Tomas79 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:40:25 +0000

Thommo says:”
Who gives a rats about what classes a hardcore magazine wants to invent?
The discussion is about medium SUVs, as classified by VFACTS. And my comments stand true.”

Overland Australia is not a hardcore magazine, it is a magazine for 4wd community/enthusiasts. As such it’s grouping is more relevant then the automobile sales statistics report (VFACTS)!!

FYI, the landcruiser Prado won this year’s best Diesel Medium 4wd Wagon, and best Petrol Medium size 4wd wagon categories in Overlander Australia!

Thommo says:”The discussion is about medium SUVs, as classified by VFACTS”

You only brought up VFACTS in your last comment (Why???), while i’m referring to the general 4wd grouping system, as supported by overlander magazine!!

By the way SUV means a lot of different things to different people, so lets not try argue about it’s actual meaning!!

Thommo says:”And finally I’m not too sure, but I would think that a Freelander 3 would pretty much match a Prado in almost any off-road situation, it can tow plenty, and is 100% better car on-road. Bottom line, Freelander 3 is a far better thing than Prado in the mid SUV class.”

Well you’d be clearly wrong in thinking that, obviously freelander is a soft-roader, it has no low range, smaller wheel articulation. It also has a fuel tank less then half the size of the Prado’s, giving it a less then half the range then a prado, it also has a smaller payload, and towing capacity. Not to mention it only a seats 5 people!!