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		<title>By: Jelmer</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47347/victoria-to-adopt-new-road-laws-from-today/#comment-260227</link>
		<dc:creator>Jelmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just recieved a fine too for the same infringement, parking next to a yellow line, without any sign. How did you go with contesting the matter?
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recieved a fine too for the same infringement, parking next to a yellow line, without any sign. How did you go with contesting the matter?<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Lux</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47347/victoria-to-adopt-new-road-laws-from-today/#comment-192603</link>
		<dc:creator>Lux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there!

I have a quick question.. 

I got fined for parking next to a single yellow line in vic. At the time, there were no signs indicating that it was against the law to park there. Now, I have a $70 fine that I feel is not justified since there were no stopping signs in place. 

Could I contest this matter to the council, consindering there were no signs ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there!</p>
<p>I have a quick question.. </p>
<p>I got fined for parking next to a single yellow line in vic. At the time, there were no signs indicating that it was against the law to park there. Now, I have a $70 fine that I feel is not justified since there were no stopping signs in place. </p>
<p>Could I contest this matter to the council, consindering there were no signs ?</p>
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		<title>By: curtis</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47347/victoria-to-adopt-new-road-laws-from-today/#comment-181086</link>
		<dc:creator>curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i recently recieved an infringement notice for driving in a bike lane ,when overtaking on the inside of a lane when a vehicle in front was doing a right hand turn is anyone up to date on this law ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recently recieved an infringement notice for driving in a bike lane ,when overtaking on the inside of a lane when a vehicle in front was doing a right hand turn is anyone up to date on this law ?</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47347/victoria-to-adopt-new-road-laws-from-today/#comment-173535</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 05:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supercujo,
I&#039;m inclined to agree with you about licence retesting.
Though I don&#039;t think that simply re-sitting the test is sufficient. 
Yes this does indicate wether you have and adequate knowledge of the rules of the road, but does not deal with the deeper issue of wether or not you actually have the ability, maturity or psychological profile to even be behind the wheel.

In the thirty or so years I have been using the roads driving cars, trucks and motor cycles it is so often the &#039;Moron Factor&#039; that leads to accidents. Unfortunately and too often it is not the moron who suffers.

We life in a society filled with distraction and our cars are no exception. Stereos, mobile phones, GPS devices, in-car entertainment, not to mention children, chatty friends and the fact we&#039;re running late or have just been chewed out by the wife/boss.

Being in control of a tonne or more of metal, even a low speeds requires concentration, awareness, consideration and skill. Concentration and awareness are dependant upon one&#039;s ability to remain focused on the job at hand, consideration of others well that should be peoples general treatment of each other on or of the road, and skill is or at least should be an integral part of a drivers training. Not just an ability to get a minimum number of questions correct and a vague ability to steer a vehicle.
What to do in any emergency situation, how does a car handle when it loses traction, when, where and how to accelerate through a corner. When do you accelerate through a situation and when do you slow down and allow other traffic to pass you.
Of course there are advanced driver training courses one can attend to further one&#039;s skill unfortunately even after an incident very few motorists consider that this may be a good idea.
Indeed within the current learner driver structure, students are not shown even the most basic of these &#039;advanced skills&#039; because it is assumed you should be driving in such away that you do not loose control of the vehicle. Total bunkum! Black ice, light rain, someone ahead with a leaky sump - any of which could find you losing control of the vehicle through no fault of your own. 
Add to this the flagrant disregard so many motorists have to road laws other than the obvious ones under discusssion here.
Failure to indicate, driving in the right hand lane ( and how often do we see learner drivers with a family member at their side blithely tootling along in the right lane at 60k in an 80k zone. Or worse yet doing the same on the freeway), speeding through school zones or perhaps my pet hate, entering an intersection that you are unable to proceed through!
If the government really wanted to increase its revenue via fines for road abuse they&#039;d set up speed cameras in every school zone and certainly one to catch the the hundreds of drivers every morning who choke the intersection of Auburn and Toorak roads.

Mandatory testing every three years - skill, road knowledge and psychological profile
Increase licence fees and registration so only people who really need to use cars would and use this money to build a viable functioning public transport system.

Driving is a privilege not a right and we need to treat it this way.

Oh one last thing.
To Mr Beissman, there is no full stop at the end of http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/home.php. in the html link you have supplied. This causes the link to return a 404, page not found error.
The correct link is
http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/home.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supercujo,<br />
I&#8217;m inclined to agree with you about licence retesting.<br />
Though I don&#8217;t think that simply re-sitting the test is sufficient.<br />
Yes this does indicate wether you have and adequate knowledge of the rules of the road, but does not deal with the deeper issue of wether or not you actually have the ability, maturity or psychological profile to even be behind the wheel.</p>
<p>In the thirty or so years I have been using the roads driving cars, trucks and motor cycles it is so often the &#8216;Moron Factor&#8217; that leads to accidents. Unfortunately and too often it is not the moron who suffers.</p>
<p>We life in a society filled with distraction and our cars are no exception. Stereos, mobile phones, GPS devices, in-car entertainment, not to mention children, chatty friends and the fact we&#8217;re running late or have just been chewed out by the wife/boss.</p>
<p>Being in control of a tonne or more of metal, even a low speeds requires concentration, awareness, consideration and skill. Concentration and awareness are dependant upon one&#8217;s ability to remain focused on the job at hand, consideration of others well that should be peoples general treatment of each other on or of the road, and skill is or at least should be an integral part of a drivers training. Not just an ability to get a minimum number of questions correct and a vague ability to steer a vehicle.<br />
What to do in any emergency situation, how does a car handle when it loses traction, when, where and how to accelerate through a corner. When do you accelerate through a situation and when do you slow down and allow other traffic to pass you.<br />
Of course there are advanced driver training courses one can attend to further one&#8217;s skill unfortunately even after an incident very few motorists consider that this may be a good idea.<br />
Indeed within the current learner driver structure, students are not shown even the most basic of these &#8216;advanced skills&#8217; because it is assumed you should be driving in such away that you do not loose control of the vehicle. Total bunkum! Black ice, light rain, someone ahead with a leaky sump &#8211; any of which could find you losing control of the vehicle through no fault of your own.<br />
Add to this the flagrant disregard so many motorists have to road laws other than the obvious ones under discusssion here.<br />
Failure to indicate, driving in the right hand lane ( and how often do we see learner drivers with a family member at their side blithely tootling along in the right lane at 60k in an 80k zone. Or worse yet doing the same on the freeway), speeding through school zones or perhaps my pet hate, entering an intersection that you are unable to proceed through!<br />
If the government really wanted to increase its revenue via fines for road abuse they&#8217;d set up speed cameras in every school zone and certainly one to catch the the hundreds of drivers every morning who choke the intersection of Auburn and Toorak roads.</p>
<p>Mandatory testing every three years &#8211; skill, road knowledge and psychological profile<br />
Increase licence fees and registration so only people who really need to use cars would and use this money to build a viable functioning public transport system.</p>
<p>Driving is a privilege not a right and we need to treat it this way.</p>
<p>Oh one last thing.<br />
To Mr Beissman, there is no full stop at the end of <a href="http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/home.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/home.php</a>. in the html link you have supplied. This causes the link to return a 404, page not found error.<br />
The correct link is<br />
<a href="http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/home.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/home.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47347/victoria-to-adopt-new-road-laws-from-today/#comment-173534</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supercujo,
I&#039;m inclined to agree with you about licence retesting.
Though I don&#039;t think that simply re-sitting the test is sufficient. 
Yes this does indicate wether you have and adequate knowledge of the rules of the road, but does not deal with the deeper issue of wether or not you actually have the ability, maturity or psychological profile to even be behind the wheel.

In the thirty or so years I have been using the roads driving cars, trucks and motor cycles it is so often the &#039;Moron Factor&#039; that leads to accidents. Unfortunately and too often it is not the moron who suffers.

We life in a society filled with distraction and our cars are no exception. Stereos, mobile phones, GPS devices, in-car entertainment, not to mention children, chatty friends and the fact we&#039;re running late or have just been chewed out by the wife/boss.

Being in control of a tonne or more of metal, even a low speeds requires concentration, awareness, consideration and skill. Concentration and awareness are dependant upon one&#039;s ability to remain focused on the job at hand, consideration of others well that should be peoples general treatment of each other on or of the road, and skill is or at least should be an integral part of a drivers training. Not just an ability to get a minimum number of questions correct and a vague ability to steer a vehicle.
What to do in any emergency situation, how does a car handle when it loses traction, when, where and how to accelerate through a corner. When do you accelerate through a situation and when do you slow down and allow other traffic to pass you.
Of course there are advanced driver training courses one can attend to further one&#039;s skill unfortunately even after an incident very few motorists consider that this may be a good idea.
Indeed within the current learner driver structure, students are not shown even the most basic of these &#039;advanced skills&#039; because it is assumed you should be driving in such away that you do not loose control of the vehicle. Total bunkum! Black ice, light rain, someone ahead with a leaky sump - any of which could find you losing control of the vehicle through no fault of your own. 
Add to this the flagrant disregard so many motorists have to road laws other than the obvious ones under discusssion here.
Failure to indicate, driving in the right hand lane ( and how often do we see learner drivers with a family member at their side blithely tootling along in the right lane at 60k in an 80k zone. Or worse yet doing the same on the freeway), speeding through school zones or perhaps my pet hate, entering an intersection that you are unable to proceed through!
If the government really wanted to increase its revenue via fines for road abuse they&#039;d set up speed cameras in every school zone and certainly one to catch the the hundreds of drivers every morning who choke the intersection of Auburn and Toorak roads.

Mandatory testing every three years - skill, road knowledge and psychological profile
Increase licence fees and registration so only people who really need to use cars would and use this money to build a viable functioning public transport system.

Driving is a privilege not a right and we need to treat it this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supercujo,<br />
I&#8217;m inclined to agree with you about licence retesting.<br />
Though I don&#8217;t think that simply re-sitting the test is sufficient.<br />
Yes this does indicate wether you have and adequate knowledge of the rules of the road, but does not deal with the deeper issue of wether or not you actually have the ability, maturity or psychological profile to even be behind the wheel.</p>
<p>In the thirty or so years I have been using the roads driving cars, trucks and motor cycles it is so often the &#8216;Moron Factor&#8217; that leads to accidents. Unfortunately and too often it is not the moron who suffers.</p>
<p>We life in a society filled with distraction and our cars are no exception. Stereos, mobile phones, GPS devices, in-car entertainment, not to mention children, chatty friends and the fact we&#8217;re running late or have just been chewed out by the wife/boss.</p>
<p>Being in control of a tonne or more of metal, even a low speeds requires concentration, awareness, consideration and skill. Concentration and awareness are dependant upon one&#8217;s ability to remain focused on the job at hand, consideration of others well that should be peoples general treatment of each other on or of the road, and skill is or at least should be an integral part of a drivers training. Not just an ability to get a minimum number of questions correct and a vague ability to steer a vehicle.<br />
What to do in any emergency situation, how does a car handle when it loses traction, when, where and how to accelerate through a corner. When do you accelerate through a situation and when do you slow down and allow other traffic to pass you.<br />
Of course there are advanced driver training courses one can attend to further one&#8217;s skill unfortunately even after an incident very few motorists consider that this may be a good idea.<br />
Indeed within the current learner driver structure, students are not shown even the most basic of these &#8216;advanced skills&#8217; because it is assumed you should be driving in such away that you do not loose control of the vehicle. Total bunkum! Black ice, light rain, someone ahead with a leaky sump &#8211; any of which could find you losing control of the vehicle through no fault of your own.<br />
Add to this the flagrant disregard so many motorists have to road laws other than the obvious ones under discusssion here.<br />
Failure to indicate, driving in the right hand lane ( and how often do we see learner drivers with a family member at their side blithely tootling along in the right lane at 60k in an 80k zone. Or worse yet doing the same on the freeway), speeding through school zones or perhaps my pet hate, entering an intersection that you are unable to proceed through!<br />
If the government really wanted to increase its revenue via fines for road abuse they&#8217;d set up speed cameras in every school zone and certainly one to catch the the hundreds of drivers every morning who choke the intersection of Auburn and Toorak roads.</p>
<p>Mandatory testing every three years &#8211; skill, road knowledge and psychological profile<br />
Increase licence fees and registration so only people who really need to use cars would and use this money to build a viable functioning public transport system.</p>
<p>Driving is a privilege not a right and we need to treat it this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47347/victoria-to-adopt-new-road-laws-from-today/#comment-164937</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The restriction on car navigation equipment seems harsh; after all, GPS navigators added text-to-speech to minimize the amount of time people need to spend looking at their navigators while driving, did they not?

Let personal responsibility dictate our actions, not laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The restriction on car navigation equipment seems harsh; after all, GPS navigators added text-to-speech to minimize the amount of time people need to spend looking at their navigators while driving, did they not?</p>
<p>Let personal responsibility dictate our actions, not laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/47347/victoria-to-adopt-new-road-laws-from-today/#comment-164927</link>
		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately Tram drivers have Police Powers - all they have to do is take your number, and you&#039;re done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Tram drivers have Police Powers &#8211; all they have to do is take your number, and you&#8217;re done.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too simplistic, fella.

Toorak Road has visibility extending to 1k each way (in places). It has a single continuous white line the wole way.

Don&#039;t try and feed me the &quot;they&#039;re right&quot; mantra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too simplistic, fella.</p>
<p>Toorak Road has visibility extending to 1k each way (in places). It has a single continuous white line the wole way.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t try and feed me the &#8220;they&#8217;re right&#8221; mantra.</p>
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		<title>By: Supercujo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supercujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather they put more patrol cars on the road to make people think a bit more about what they do on the road. 

Also, targeting so-called &#039;hoons&#039; who do burnouts or street drags in some remote areas away from housing or main roads will do stuff all to improve the road toll.

I&#039;d would like to see every driver have to resit their road rules test every 5 years when their licence is renewed. And then a bunch of people each year are randomly selected to redo their drivers licence test. I see so many people on a daily basis who have no clue on most road rules.

Don&#039;t just retest old folk or P platers, restest everyone. We all have a responsibility to know the road rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather they put more patrol cars on the road to make people think a bit more about what they do on the road. </p>
<p>Also, targeting so-called &#8216;hoons&#8217; who do burnouts or street drags in some remote areas away from housing or main roads will do stuff all to improve the road toll.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d would like to see every driver have to resit their road rules test every 5 years when their licence is renewed. And then a bunch of people each year are randomly selected to redo their drivers licence test. I see so many people on a daily basis who have no clue on most road rules.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t just retest old folk or P platers, restest everyone. We all have a responsibility to know the road rules.</p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL how does this make it safer... if they really care about making the roads safe the cops would go to places where they have illegal burnouts and drags every weekend.. but its the hoons they should be targeting and taking away there licenses and cars for a 5 year period.. now that tuff great laws..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL how does this make it safer&#8230; if they really care about making the roads safe the cops would go to places where they have illegal burnouts and drags every weekend.. but its the hoons they should be targeting and taking away there licenses and cars for a 5 year period.. now that tuff great laws..</p>
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