I drove the 2.0 TDI DSG Golf, and preferred the mazda’s pulling power. I have previously owned a Golf V TDI and a BMW 120d. I’m as surprised as anyone to discover that the Mazda is actually a better thing to drive than both of them !

Brilliant and under-rated little car.
Test drive one..
Josh

Ok, want to inject some common sense…

First you said that Ford doesn’t offer a FWD diesel, wrong! then you tried to cover that incorrect comment up with, ‘the mondeo is a much bigger vehicle’.

I said that VW doesn’t cover the market like a fulline manufacturer, they don’t…lets see…

Now try to understand…

Does VW cover the entire market, as in cover every class and price point!? idiot!
Not just the number of models! thats not the same thing…
If that was the case, why doesn’t VW do the same volume as Ford, Holden and Toyota or even Mazda or Honda!

Wake up and smell some common sense..
I swear some of you know nothing about the auto world and you just obtain you information through the media and marketing/propaganda!!

seriously…

Ford has won the award for bad timing on pulling out of major volume!? what re u on, crack?

If you care to look at the figures for a drop off in large car sales commodore lost more volume than falcon when the VZ was on sale, the BF11 will now be losing volume quicker as it’s the bloody oldest model on sale in it’s class! how can you not know this basic information??
I’m not going to bother trying any more…

You are PUAL in drag! LOL

Try this link http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/ and have a look at how many models VW offers. It’s 87. Ford shows 76.

Now you know that VW offers a full range of vehicles like Toyota, Ford, Holden etc… No, they don’t manufacture here, but if the Government doesn’t care you and I just have to accept it. Yes the Golf/Jetta is a little dearer, but it’s also better built than Focus. And you can’t really compare a Focus manual to a Golf DSG Auto price wise. You can get a Golf Manual TDI for $29990 which is bugger all dearer than the Focus, and you can add the brilliant DSG for $2300, an option Ford won’t have for many moons.

You should also know that Ford has won the prize for the worst possible timing for adding/witdrawing/not having models that the market wants over the last 10 years.

They only got 2 right – the Korean Kia Rio/Festiva, which was a cheap piece of unsafe at any speed crap but which sold like hotcakes, and Territory

But they were not enough to overcome the KA, Fiesta and Focus, the last two overpriced and market duds, (perhaps being corrected a bit now)and the KA – well – not worth mentioning, a stupid car and a market dud. Then AU, the ugliest car for a long time (since the previous Mondeo), and a market dud.

Holden has also been caught with unfilled gaps – no CRV competitor till recently, no 4WD since Jackaroo, but at least the Commodore performed vastly better than the AU during the drought. And of course Holden exports plenty which Ford does not.

You said FWD auto diesel, not class of vehicle…

Also VW, spelt correctly? whats the cost of a VW golf 2.0 deisel DSG? compared to focus/3? also look at what you get for your money, not just the asking prices, you might find a bigger difference than you expect.

I also didn’t know that VW offered a full range of vehicles like, Toyota, Ford, Holden etc…
Do they manufactuer here? I thought they were an exclusive full importer?
Just because offer good diesel cars with an auto doesn’t make them good at covering the entire market…
put things into perspective…

Ford does NOT have an auto suitable for the Mazda or the Focus.

As I said, you can already have your cake and eat it too – you Ford nuts should be able to spell VW, it’s only two letters.

Ford whenever or VW now?

Eat your hearts out. But then Toyota nuts will be squirming as well, since there’s NOTHING in the Toyota range at all to compete with any of this. They haven’t got any passenger diesel technology at all. Even the Landcruiser V8 TD manages almost as much power/torque as everyone else’s 2.0 litre 4 Cyl, to which we all say WOW…….

they don’t have a 6speed auto to handle the diesels…? umm yeah they do it’s called the mondeo 6 speed auto diesel and it will be available here late this year!

hold your horses!

I made sarcastic remark in relation to many thinking Toyota supplies new tech first, they don’t.
Also, the focus deisel is actually being released before the mazda counterpart…There maybe no autos…the lack of, has been explained, Mazda is selling more MANUAL diesel 6s then they had first anticipated…
Have you read or even driven the focus or 3 diesels?
I suggest you try them…not everyone wants Autos…

The ZF 6speed auto i would suspect will be used for the falcon/territory diesels…the one being used currently.

Even a non-engineering graduate should be able to work out that Ford can’t really put the 6 speed auto in a Focus because it’s designed for RWD not FWD.

They don’t have a FWD auto at all that can handle the diesel.

I think it’s good that Mazda has released diesels, and now Ford has belatedly offered the Focus. But the big problem is Mazda/Ford doesn’t have an Auto that can handle the torque, and this will seriously hold back their sales. Even though you only need to use 3 gears in the 6 speed trannies, that does not substitute for an Auto. Desirability of these diesel manuals is not high.

I surely don’t need to remind people that diesel/auto is a marriage made in heaven. Diesel/manual sucks. Diesel DSG as in the VW group offerings is nirvana.

Holden has had Astra Diesel manual or auto for quite a while, Captiva is available in diesel. Desirability of these is not high

VW has had diesel for ages, and people have been buying Polo, Golf, Jetta, Passat in diesel with DSG in droves. Desirability of these is extreme, bettered only by the Audi versions. Price is only marginally higher than the Astra/Focus/323/626 offerings but the VWs leave them for dead.

The French offerings are also available as are the Fiats.

The Diesel Focus and hopefully the Diesel Falcon/Territory will open Australia’s eyes to the wonderful world of Diesel powered cars.