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		<title>By: max no longer mad</title>
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		<dc:creator>max no longer mad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t see this working. If you look at the history of private equity firms buying car companies, they just don&#039;t work. Phoenix bought Rover cars from BMW and lasted a few years. Same with Cerebus buying Chrysler. And in both those cases, they paid almost nothing. With the Crown buy out, the have to service the huge debt to buy Volvo, then run the company, build cars, then invest the billions needed for the continual updates required to remain competitive. I just can&#039;t see them lasting.
For what its worth, I think the same will happen with the Magna buyout of GM Europe. GM USA have been very clever. They have or will, retain a small shareholding. In a few years when Magna is in trouble, GM will step in and buy it back for next to nothing. Well thats my take on it anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t see this working. If you look at the history of private equity firms buying car companies, they just don&#8217;t work. Phoenix bought Rover cars from BMW and lasted a few years. Same with Cerebus buying Chrysler. And in both those cases, they paid almost nothing. With the Crown buy out, the have to service the huge debt to buy Volvo, then run the company, build cars, then invest the billions needed for the continual updates required to remain competitive. I just can&#8217;t see them lasting.<br />
For what its worth, I think the same will happen with the Magna buyout of GM Europe. GM USA have been very clever. They have or will, retain a small shareholding. In a few years when Magna is in trouble, GM will step in and buy it back for next to nothing. Well thats my take on it anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: click</title>
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		<dc:creator>click</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Carmaker’s Collapse, a Microcosm of South Korea’s Woes 
NYTimes

“Chinese company BOE got the technology they wanted. All we got was layoffs,” said Hwang Pil-sang, a Hydis worker.&quot;

“We trusted their promise to help us into the vast Chinese market,” Mr. Yang said. “In the end, they kept none of their promises, and they got what they wanted: our technology.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/world/asia/24seoul.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=2&amp;ref=asia

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not surprise. 
After Chinese company get the technology they wanted, They will kill world automotive industry with cheap price volvo. Volvo workers in sweden will replace by cheap pay chinese workers soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Carmaker’s Collapse, a Microcosm of South Korea’s Woes<br />
NYTimes</p>
<p>“Chinese company BOE got the technology they wanted. All we got was layoffs,” said Hwang Pil-sang, a Hydis worker.&#8221;</p>
<p>“We trusted their promise to help us into the vast Chinese market,” Mr. Yang said. “In the end, they kept none of their promises, and they got what they wanted: our technology.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/world/asia/24seoul.html?pagewanted=1&#038;_r=2&#038;ref=asia" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/world/asia/24seoul.html?pagewanted=1&#038;_r=2&#038;ref=asia</a></p>
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not surprise.<br />
After Chinese company get the technology they wanted, They will kill world automotive industry with cheap price volvo. Volvo workers in sweden will replace by cheap pay chinese workers soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Carfanatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carfanatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as they have worked for Ford in the past, I&#039;d certainly be investigating it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as they have worked for Ford in the past, I&#8217;d certainly be investigating it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever wandered that the Company selling the company may ask another company in secret to place a bid to try and get the highest bidder to raise their price. I know this would somehow be illegal but in reality you could not prove  it could you. I think thats what many car companies do to try and flog off their dodgy merchadise for high prices. Ford could have asked these new comers to try and place a false bid to get Geely worried and in response Geely would post a higher bid if they really wanted the brand. Some food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wandered that the Company selling the company may ask another company in secret to place a bid to try and get the highest bidder to raise their price. I know this would somehow be illegal but in reality you could not prove  it could you. I think thats what many car companies do to try and flog off their dodgy merchadise for high prices. Ford could have asked these new comers to try and place a false bid to get Geely worried and in response Geely would post a higher bid if they really wanted the brand. Some food for thought.</p>
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