Comments on: Video: Toyota FT-86 Concept premieres in GT5

By: Reality

Reality — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:41:49 +0000

Maybe making the car underpowered is part of the plan. Think of all the credits that you had to spend in the GT game to make the second hand AE86 faster. Maybe Toyota and Subaru are hoping buyers will do the same thing. Could be one hell of a sales strategy.

By: SteveH

SteveH — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:46:44 +0000

Wheelnut, don’t try and put me in the same basket as some of the other Holden bashers on this site. If I do have a go at a Holden or Ford, I am basing it on personal experience or facts, so don’t try and make stuff up.

Also, if you have found somewhere that I have insulted someone, please let me know and i will apologise, but I doubt that you will find it as I don’t do it.

Finally don’t try and justify your incessant Toyota bagging with ‘they started it’, because we just keep seeing your continuous dribble on every single Toyota or Lexus thread. You were even banned for it a short time ago.

By: Flying High

Flying High — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:06:22 +0000

I hope you are right about the Turbo option. And it would be even better is Subaru offered an AWD Turbo option on this car. One can only hope

By: Shak

Shak — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:07:09 +0000

Wheelnut how could Holden compete in International events, they’re not an International manufacturer. But if you want to get technical, then rebadged GM Holden products do compete in International events

By: Devil's Advocate

Devil's Advocate — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:01:52 +0000

Have I got a story for you Wheelnut. This is in reference to Toyotas not being parked next to Astons, Ferraris etc in personal garages. Aston Martin are in the process of developing a small car so their customers in their DB9s etc can have a car for driving around town etc and not take out the ‘big’ car to save wear etc. Guess what. This small car is essentally a TOYOTA with Aston Martin designed panels!! So technically, there is a distinct possibility that soon there WILL be a Toyota parked next to an Aston Martin in the garage! WRT resorting to personal attacks in replies etc, hello pot, this is kettle calling… TVFPIC

By: Devil's Advocate

Devil's Advocate — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:50:04 +0000

Exhaust design/firing orders etc for example can do a lot to change an exhuast note! Don’t forget the Subaru Impreza WRC didn’t have much of a boxer engine note either, especially when compared to the Group N version.

By: Lukaas

Lukaas — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:18:41 +0000

Wheelnut,

You really put in 110% to bag out Toyota and its fans.
Its not healthy for you.

I know you’re doing it to retaliate for the Holden hate… But its too much.

Bottomline… and I’m gonna say this with a disclaimer, “very general” statement.

Holden/GM cars are regarded to be high-horse power RWD, but mediocre built cars.
Toyota cars are regarded (these days) as boring, lifeless, but reliably built cars.

Thats the very general perception of the public… You can write 100 theses on why Holden is better built, but it wont change the majority the public’s image.

Fact 1: you hate Toyota, you love Holden. Done.

Using,Ferrari, Aston, Lambos as AMMO to put down Toyota further is ridiculous.
Built wise? Performance wise?

I tell you what, Having a high powered engine is easily achieved…. increase bore size, add cylinders etc. However preventing defects and reliability issues as the car ages…. thats difficult. And thats where Toyota spends 80% of their resources on (everyday cars), they build them boring but most of their engineering prowess (again for everyday cars) on making cost effective parts that doesnt compromise quality/reliability. Anyone engineer can design “exciting” “powerful” products… but in the end, as a business… the big wigs wishes always gets granted… maximise profit, minimise problems…. compromise “fancy” things.

But as you can see, Toyota actually is “putting effort” back into “sports” cars again. Obviously they’ve realize that they do need “profit” from that market too.

By: Pauly

Pauly — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:01:37 +0000

108KW doesnt sound right, especially when the Current Generation Corolla with a 1.8L Engine is pumping out 100KW with 91 Octane.

I think we should wait for the announcement in a couple of weeks from Toyota.

I have a sneaky suspicion, Toyota will have a base spec engine in the sub 40K segment, then have a turbo variant of the same engine in ‘Hot Hatch’ Territory (40 – 45K). I wouldn’t be surprised if they give the option of a hybrid power-train either for around 50K.

That could give Hondas new CRZ a run for its money with the whole ‘being 1st Hybrid Sports Car’, especially if they plan on releasing it in Japan and America Early Next Year (which is the same as Honda’s plans with the CR-Z).

Dont forget Toyota has some plan that by 2015 or something all their cars will come with a Hybrid Power-Train Option… If this is a new car, I don’t see why Toyota would not give the option of it.

What will also be interesting to see, is what Subaru have planned for their equivalent model. Don’t forget Subaru might be giving Toyota the engine, but this is a shared project, and Subaru will also be creating a new model in their lineup based of this car.

By: Tomas79

Tomas79 — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:31:19 +0000

By the way, once the Lexus LF-A will be released. It will easily be on par with Ferrari!!

By: Tomas79

Tomas79 — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:52:13 +0000

Does GM-Holden even compete in any truly international events (serious question)?? And don’t just give me local events open for international visitors, or V8 supercar rounds in Bahrain?

People who own true supercars such as the Ferrari, Lamborghini might not have a yaris parked in the garage. But they do tend to have landcruisers, and various lexuses… Especially when we talk about some of WA’s mining tycoons…