Comments on: Lexus IS F upgraded – what’s the diff?

By: James

James — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:44:55 +0000

If I were the BMW execs, I won’t be be breaking out the champagne. The M3 had a 30 year headstart (since the 80′s) and the ISF is getting to be about 80-90% of what the M3 is based on testing by most journalist. Yes, they all agree it’s no M3 but very very close. So if your competitor has gotten to about 90% of where you are in their first try, is there cause for celebration? And most Lexus drivers used to be either MB or BMW owners who got sick of poor reliability and dealer attitude.
I am a consulant and I see these sort of arrogance in a lot of companies, most of which are now in financial trouble. They pat themselves in the back saying that they are #1 or the market leader without paying attention to the fact their lead over the next guy is slowly shrinking. I know that in a few years with their continuous improvement philosophy and willingness to listen to customers, Lexus will create a car that beat the M3.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:56:35 +0000

I don’t think the Lexus can compete with the BMW; it just doesn’t break-down like the Bimmer. Think about it; you would NOT get towed or get a junky enterprise rental. People wouldn’t laugh at you for spending a large amount of money for a smooth lookin’ ride broke-ass down on the freeway. Nope; it’s better to compare the Benz’s to the Bimmers.

By: The Realist

The Realist — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:50:23 +0000

You obviously have no idea how depreciation works over the LCT limit. And even at that price people don’t want to be taken for a ride. When I purchased my wife’s 335i do you think I simply accepted what the dealer was dishing out to me??

By: The Realist

The Realist — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:46:39 +0000

This is a fine first effort from Lexus. It’s taken Audi years to get close with the B7 RS4, yet there’s not too much flak directed at Volkswagen sorry Audi.

By: figjam

figjam — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:35:39 +0000

it was a electronic one! not mechanical!

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:48:22 +0000

95% of the business luxury cars owners couldnt give a flying fig about resale value, its a tax deduction so who gives a rip !

Like most cars, at the end of their lease its worth about the balloon payout……

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:33:25 +0000

One day when you grow up Jammedfig Im sure you will be among the Lexus owners out there ,proving my point even more !

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:26:02 +0000

hahaha no torque …………..god your an idiot! Best of my knowledge they dont allow 15 year olds to drive Jammedfig .

By: Camski

Camski — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:45:32 +0000

Not a mechanical one, no.

Much like the regular C63 which could be optioned up with one at least.

By: Alan

Alan — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:39:45 +0000

No doubt it is a fine effort from Lexus with the IS F, but i still don’t think it’s close to the M3. Firstly, the bodykit looks a bit rice, and the interior just isn’t special enough. All the minor switchgears look similar to those found on Toyota, and at more than 100k, that is just not acceptable. Finally, i don’t think the engine is not as special as the one in the M3, M3′s engine feels more special, bespoke and race car like. Honestly, i think M3/RS4/C63/ISF are all very close competitors and there’s no obvious reason not to choose any of them, it all comes down to personal perferance. I like M3′s lighter chassis, manual gearbox, high revving V8, in short a more pure performance car.

As for people hating Lexus, seems to be the case in many countries outside of Asia and USA, they make fine cars, just not very exciting until ISF. Looking forward to LF-A, will be quite expensive, but can’t wait to see it give GTR a trashing. Better looking than GTR too i think, just hope they don’t canne the project in the end, it has being so long in the making already. Bring it to the market before the styling startes to be dated.