Diesel Falcon and Territory by 2010
26 Jul, 2007
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It seems everything is turning around for Ford Australia especially with the recent announcement that the locally made Territory and Falcon models would be available in diesel variants with current forecasts expecting it to be implemented by 2010.
With fuel prices killing large family cars, the trend for smaller - more fuel efficient small cars and diesels has grown dramatically. Diesel powered cars are now relatively on par with their petrol counterparts, taking more than 50 per cent of all passenger vehicle sales in Europe.
“Part of our V6 strategy is we want to get diesel engines into our core domestic products,”
Ford President Tom Gorman.
“Diesel, with its lower CO2 (carbon dioxide) emissions, has been used extensively by European manufacturers to address the very real challenges of climate change,”
It seems Australian’s acceptance of diesel engines is gaining pace. Australian diesel car sales doubled to 16,000 in 2006 and Mr Gorman said 13,000 were sold in the first half of 2007, indicating sales could double again this year.
Ford now has the chance to lead the diesel market with a current diesel model in its Focus lineup as well as in the future Mondeo, due out later this year. Holden currently only has the Astra diesel with Toyota and Mitsubishi offering no diesel variant throughout its entire passenger vehicle lineup.
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July 26th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
A positive move by Ford.
Diesel vaiants with brilliant economy will sell like hotcakes, and last forever (almost).
Can’t happen soon enough.
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July 26th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
I agree. diesels in some models may not be the big money saver there’re made out to be, but this move by Ford by decades end will certainly give territory a huge boost and give falcon buyers the option to enjoy a big car without the fuel bills and social guilt of owning a ‘gas guzzler’.
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July 26th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Im always bemused as to why Ford Oz are so slow to catch onto global trends, hot hatch, diesel sedans, small car boom, ESP.
In fact the only thing that Ford Oz has been on the ball on in the last decade was the SUV craze from 5 years back. The Territory hit the nail, but it should have had diesel when the Discovery 3 was released. Ford have great transmissions and engines available to them, they should utilise them a lot more.
Now bring on the new Focus RS!
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July 26th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Yep, finally Diesel for Ford.
long time coming.
Ford’s fortunes may change for the better afterall.
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July 26th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
Hendrik…
I know what your saying, but you have to realise that the costs involved come into the equation also…you don’t just take one engine and slot it into another vehicle. The premium that diesel asks is something they have to consider also.
Remember that Toyota, current market leader, has no diesel passenger vehicles on sale at the moment.
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July 26th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Territory was the first aussie passenger vehicle to offer ESP too.
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July 26th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
i think they need to release the diesel like 18 months before they kill off the inline 6 just to get people familiar with it and therefore it is an option rather than it being forced upon them. diesel is the only way to make up for the bag of torque they will lose going to the V6
also interesting to read the diesel actually emitts less co2. can anyone tell me how much less? or what the figure is. i wouldnt have thought it would be much less if any
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July 26th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
yeah the new emit less CO2 than petrol engines, and with new combustion, particle filter and the such the diesels are now becoming more earth friendly than hybirds, have a look at the new diesels audi have just released in europe, quite amazing
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July 27th, 2007 at 10:26 am
Good to hear as its progress upon petrol… but by 2010 Honda will have a hydrogen cell car out while they are just getting into the Diesels. Abit behind in the times? Long term they better start getting their act together in regards to hybrids etc.
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July 27th, 2007 at 11:06 am
Paul…
Will Honda AUS have a fuel cell out by 2010? Toyota AUS has NO diesels yet.
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July 28th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
Paul,
why do you have to be so negative where ever you go?(apart from toyota)?
ford AUS are also developing hydrogen and they are one of only a few that are. honda just advertises it more.
well ford are ahead of toyota in diesels arent they?
why should ford go with hybrids? i mean toyota proved to every one that they are no more efficient nor greener
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July 29th, 2007 at 5:22 am
The diesel is better for enviroment it put out less pollution,go the boss in 08 how ya love that.
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July 29th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Hendrik,
Ford Aus are slow in catching global trends? Is that why it’ll be the first manufacturer to have an Australian small car to suit the changing trends? And as said before, Terri was the first Australian car with ESP and they’ve had a Focus for quite a while…
Paul, great to hear that Honda will have Hydrogen cars in 2010 (Though you must show me how they will be able to get it so quickly). So if Honda are that far ahead - Where are the Diesel Accords, Civics and CRVs in 2007? Oh they haven’t gotten to that stage yet? Then I assume Ford are ahead, not behind, right?
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July 30th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
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Honda have been selling their own Diesels in Europe for about 4 years now, having used GM and Rover diesels in previous years. The 2.2 CDTi engine first seen in the Accord (Euro) is considered to be one of the best available. Honda haven’t got to the diesel stage yet in Australia, but they have everywhere else.
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July 31st, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Does it matter? the point is Ford AUS is beating many to market with diesels, as thats where we live.
The comment that Ford AUS is behind is not correct at all.
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July 31st, 2007 at 8:20 pm
dead right adam.
we are talking about this market right here.
well ford already has the diesel focus too.
its not about what car makers have produced cause internationally they all have pretty much the same in their stables. its about australia (our market)
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July 31st, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Lol who cares about Diesels… Honda will have the hydrogen cell out in the states by 2008 (2010 in Australia I THINK)
http://carsguide.news.com.au/s.....22,00.html
So it will be good for a laugh to see the launch of Diesel by Ford while people are driving around in hydrogen cell cars that cost them nothing in fuel and only emmit water!
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August 1st, 2007 at 9:21 pm
paul why are you soo negative towards ford and holden?
what the F is toyota doing? at least ford has a diesel passenger car here. does toyota? no
we are yet to see good power figures out of these “green cars” yet so dont expect every one to jump at them. also with 330k’s per tank and ugly looks, well…….
so when ford introduces its second range of diesel passenger vehicles in like 18 mths shall we all laugh at toyotas getting around on unleaded?
also how do you know honda will be the first to release hydrogen. plenty others are working on it and from the article you posted GM are more advanced in it but no one ever hears about that do they??
thats because honda are pumping money into advertising it 5 years before it happens so when it comes people think honda invented it and every one else copied.
so how far off is fords and GM’s etc?
just because they dont say doesnt mean they dont have it just as advanced
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August 2nd, 2007 at 10:14 am
Not negative, realistic.
I find it laughable that Ford are bringing out a Diesel Territory and Falcon by 2010 when 2 years prior the states will have a hydrogen cell car and at the same year Australia is supposedly going to have one. The whole point of Diesel from a manufacturers point of view is for fuel efficiency and the green vote… when you have hydrogen cell cars coming out at that time which eclipse Diesel on both accounts it seems like a bad business decisions to bother with Diesel doesnt it… especially when you have yoru claims that GM and Ford have better technology which I find extremely hard to believe when they cant even perfect current technology lol!
As for power, the article does state it has the same power as most petrol engines… so there is an indication! And you think Diesel engines have the same power? In most if not all cases they lack power… although yes they do have shyteloads of torque.
Lastly looks and all that… in another article recently posted here you have BMW who also have working hydrogen cell vehicles RIGHT NOW, not 2008 or 2010. And they look exactly the same as the regular BMWs… and mind you its a prity low knock to have a go at appearance, its just a shell, they are trying to make it look futuristic… I thought youd have the common sense to look beyond that Andrew.M, like whats under the bonnet!
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August 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 am
And honestly Andrew.M…. tell me, if you owned a business of making cars, would you be sleeping well if you were releasing Diesel engines when your competitors are releasing far superior technology? Id be shyting myself if I had a vested interest in Ford etc…
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August 2nd, 2007 at 5:31 pm
paul all i was saying is that why does honda get the wrap. just because they are advertising it 3yrs in advance??
i was pointing out that others like GM, ford, and certainly BMW like you said are well on top of it too
with looks i was pointing out that most alternate fuel car or hybrid looks ugly. its not low to judge on looks it is also what sells them. oh and didnt you recently critiseze the looks of the mondeo (you low person you).
ok so how does toyota sleep at night???
releasing petrols while everyone else is doing diesels
quick paul you better jump off the toyota ship!!!!!
there is no date set for hydrogen so for all you know ford could have it in 2010 aswell.they will still need diesel till everyone becomes acostomed to the new fuel.
the article says diesel “BY 2010″ meaning before. i wont be surprised to see it in 2008 especially in the territory
so whats toyota doing again??
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August 2nd, 2007 at 5:33 pm
oh yes and if i owned a business of making cars and was getting the same income as those who had to invest a lot of money to get theirs i would be laughing all the way to the bank cause that is business
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August 2nd, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Toyota have hybids already in mainstream production. Ford have….. oh thats right, I keep hearing they are developing it, thats about it, pure speculation.
As for the rest, no the Honda hybrid is coming out next year in the states… I doubt a ford hybrid would be because quite frankly I dont think it exists. ANY manufacturer would be advertising it if they had it, they want a green image. But thats it, they have to actually have it first!
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February 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
The government should be encourageing diesel and subsidising diesel rather than LPG, LPG does not offer the extra torque or mileage as in a diesel.
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April 14th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Paul, you have NFI.
You say “I find it laughable that Ford are bringing out a Diesel Territory and Falcon by 2010 when 2 years prior the states will have a hydrogen cell car and at the same year Australia is supposedly going to have one.” Ummmm, lets see, 2010 - 2 = 2008. What year are we in today? 2008. Oops.
The whole point of diesel’s on-road performance isn’t outright power, it’s torque. Check out torque figures for little diesel rockets like Astra and Golf. I can’t be bothered doing it for you.
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May 25th, 2008 at 12:49 am
firstly, Paul, do you realise a TDCi (Thats Turbo Diesel Common-Rail Injection for u toyota finatics) has real world consumtion equal to that of a prius AND emits very similar levels of co2 AND will do over 1000km on a 55L tank of diesel?
secondly, if the hybrids are so great, why is it only tree huggers who want to look like they care buying them? oh thats right, they cost roughly TWICE the price of a Yaris/Corolla, of which the Prius is sized between.
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May 25th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Holden V Ford Diesel Battle! :)
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May 25th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Turbocharged V8 Ford Falcon XR8 diesel V Turbocharged Holden Commodore V8 SS V!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :)
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