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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4101/aurion-trd-joins-the-police-force/#comment-83226</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like i said, from experience. You say drive an aurion and &quot;flog&quot; it. lol. Im sure youve driven an aurion in the wet around a corner at double the speed limit. Obviously not, because if you did your aurion would be in a metal scrap heap and you would probably be dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like i said, from experience. You say drive an aurion and &#8220;flog&#8221; it. lol. Im sure youve driven an aurion in the wet around a corner at double the speed limit. Obviously not, because if you did your aurion would be in a metal scrap heap and you would probably be dead.</p>
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		<title>By: johnathon</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt this is a kick-ass car.

Although, Toyota have made a big mistake with a high powered front wheel drive. It&#039;s all fun and games until the front end locks up then what are you going to do? At least in a rear wheel drive you can correct it very easily, once the front end locks up as im sure it will with such a heavy car (quad-cam, family size) you are going to slide directly into what is in front of you.

And believe me, i&#039;m talking from experience, front wheel drives are clapped out shit-boxes no matter how good the engine is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt this is a kick-ass car.</p>
<p>Although, Toyota have made a big mistake with a high powered front wheel drive. It&#8217;s all fun and games until the front end locks up then what are you going to do? At least in a rear wheel drive you can correct it very easily, once the front end locks up as im sure it will with such a heavy car (quad-cam, family size) you are going to slide directly into what is in front of you.</p>
<p>And believe me, i&#8217;m talking from experience, front wheel drives are clapped out shit-boxes no matter how good the engine is.</p>
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		<title>By: morgasshk</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4101/aurion-trd-joins-the-police-force/#comment-25275</link>
		<dc:creator>morgasshk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahaha.

ESP and VSC...

thats the difference that stops the FWD vs RWD argument...  these systems keep the car on the road, in the direction you want to travel...

that argument is flawed, ancient and now redundant...

Drive an Aurion, flog it, and you will see. ;)

And in regards to Aurion challengine Commodore and Falcon... well, aaah, have a look at the stats...  In QLD Aurion just outsold Falcon for the last 3 months, and in creasing that lead.  Not &quot;close&quot; to Commodore yet, but getting there...  Far and above Toyota&#039;s targets for this stage in the release. ;)

Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahaha.</p>
<p>ESP and VSC&#8230;</p>
<p>thats the difference that stops the FWD vs RWD argument&#8230;  these systems keep the car on the road, in the direction you want to travel&#8230;</p>
<p>that argument is flawed, ancient and now redundant&#8230;</p>
<p>Drive an Aurion, flog it, and you will see. <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And in regards to Aurion challengine Commodore and Falcon&#8230; well, aaah, have a look at the stats&#8230;  In QLD Aurion just outsold Falcon for the last 3 months, and in creasing that lead.  Not &#8220;close&#8221; to Commodore yet, but getting there&#8230;  Far and above Toyota&#8217;s targets for this stage in the release. <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Word.</p>
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		<title>By: Who cares...</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4101/aurion-trd-joins-the-police-force/#comment-23646</link>
		<dc:creator>Who cares...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only one reason the Queensland police bought a Aurion TRD over a holden or ford = Fuel Economy

The vast majority of cars on the road are slower than the TRD and hence the TRD was the logical choice.

Personally i can&#039;t wait to see the aurions in car chases, understearing in corners and having those being chased get away in a crappy RWD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one reason the Queensland police bought a Aurion TRD over a holden or ford = Fuel Economy</p>
<p>The vast majority of cars on the road are slower than the TRD and hence the TRD was the logical choice.</p>
<p>Personally i can&#8217;t wait to see the aurions in car chases, understearing in corners and having those being chased get away in a crappy RWD.</p>
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		<title>By: Dingo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4101/aurion-trd-joins-the-police-force/#comment-20776</link>
		<dc:creator>Dingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason Toyota is not interested in Australian Supercars but that is not saying that maybe one day they will show some interest. They are however competing in the Australian Rally Championship (ARC) through TRD and doing extremely well 

A good option for Toyota though for the Australian Touring Cars so that they conform with the current regulations would be to team with Lexus Auatralia and run a GS series that is sold here in Australia with a 4.3 V8 (GS430) and... is RWD.

Considering some people are fighting back at the Aurion just goes to show that the car is stirring concern amoung Holden/Ford punters and that is good to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason Toyota is not interested in Australian Supercars but that is not saying that maybe one day they will show some interest. They are however competing in the Australian Rally Championship (ARC) through TRD and doing extremely well </p>
<p>A good option for Toyota though for the Australian Touring Cars so that they conform with the current regulations would be to team with Lexus Auatralia and run a GS series that is sold here in Australia with a 4.3 V8 (GS430) and&#8230; is RWD.</p>
<p>Considering some people are fighting back at the Aurion just goes to show that the car is stirring concern amoung Holden/Ford punters and that is good to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also read that aricle, who cares what me or you say, we are both biased... there you have a great source of tow identicle cars tested, one FWD the other RWD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also read that aricle, who cares what me or you say, we are both biased&#8230; there you have a great source of tow identicle cars tested, one FWD the other RWD.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUOTE = Righto Eddy the expert. Have you driven an Aurion aggressively? 

The normal Aurion? I wouldnt say aggressively but Ive pushed it in a test drive.

QUOTE = The potential aggressive driving the Aurion will cop will show the lack of front end grip. It’s physics! The wheels steering the car are also driving the car, therefore it will let go earlier than a RWD.

I find it hard to believe you are commenting without bias... you still dont understand the dynamics of a FWD either. You dont floor it throughout a corner... if driven properly, you will have no problems with a FWD when cornering. And grip, word it correctly, a FWD has a higher traction threshold, the problem is a seperation of duties between steering and power. But as I said you drive it as a FWD should be driven its not an issue and around a track just as fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUOTE = Righto Eddy the expert. Have you driven an Aurion aggressively? </p>
<p>The normal Aurion? I wouldnt say aggressively but Ive pushed it in a test drive.</p>
<p>QUOTE = The potential aggressive driving the Aurion will cop will show the lack of front end grip. It’s physics! The wheels steering the car are also driving the car, therefore it will let go earlier than a RWD.</p>
<p>I find it hard to believe you are commenting without bias&#8230; you still dont understand the dynamics of a FWD either. You dont floor it throughout a corner&#8230; if driven properly, you will have no problems with a FWD when cornering. And grip, word it correctly, a FWD has a higher traction threshold, the problem is a seperation of duties between steering and power. But as I said you drive it as a FWD should be driven its not an issue and around a track just as fast.</p>
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		<title>By: The Axe</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4101/aurion-trd-joins-the-police-force/#comment-20737</link>
		<dc:creator>The Axe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Righto Eddy the expert. Have you driven an Aurion aggressively? 

Didn&#039;t think so. 

Wheels did report it and you say they are biased?! Well lets wait and see if they give it the thumbs up, would you think they are bias then? 

Didn&#039;t think so.

The potential aggressive driving the Aurion will cop will show the lack of front end grip. It&#039;s physics! The wheels steering the car are also driving the car, therefore it will let go earlier than a RWD.

Before you accuse me of bias, my previous cars have been a Laser, Corolla, Barina, Pulsar SSS, Focus Zetec and now an XR6 Turbo. 
So yes I have owned/driven FWD cars before.

Have a good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Righto Eddy the expert. Have you driven an Aurion aggressively? </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>Wheels did report it and you say they are biased?! Well lets wait and see if they give it the thumbs up, would you think they are bias then? </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>The potential aggressive driving the Aurion will cop will show the lack of front end grip. It&#8217;s physics! The wheels steering the car are also driving the car, therefore it will let go earlier than a RWD.</p>
<p>Before you accuse me of bias, my previous cars have been a Laser, Corolla, Barina, Pulsar SSS, Focus Zetec and now an XR6 Turbo.<br />
So yes I have owned/driven FWD cars before.</p>
<p>Have a good day.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who gives a shyte about V8 supercars... I hope Toyota dont, keep the bogan image away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who gives a shyte about V8 supercars&#8230; I hope Toyota dont, keep the bogan image away.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew. M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew. M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>firstly great come back Dingo.
&quot;Aurions come with cardigans to offset the free toolbox that comes with a Holden.&quot; he he thats thinkin

one important note on V8 supercars is it is a V8 highly controlled spec category. i dont know if production car racing really exists any more aswell.

yes you had your nissans that had a good run for a bit put didnt the tightening of the eligability criteria prove that people wanted to see V8&#039;s running around? i think the success of V8&#039;s wouldnt be as great as it is now if they hadnt done so. 
remember ford ran sierra&#039;s to try and compete with the other nimble cars out there (well they didnt TRY to compete with them they actually smashed tham)
if nissans etc kept racing ford would just run something like the sierra again and we would be watching &quot;V6 turbo supercars&quot; every 3 weeks or so.

and my opinion on toyota entering the competition is short answer NO.
you see ford and holden have put up a lot of money to keep this category going and their patriotism of the sport and theirs alone have seen the sport become the 3rd most popular sport in OZ and also the only sport to have international governments forking out big $$ to get them on their turf.
anyone wanting to get in on that success,to me,would be seen as a &quot;johnny come lately&quot;

nothing is stopping them building up their own category of racing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>firstly great come back Dingo.<br />
&#8220;Aurions come with cardigans to offset the free toolbox that comes with a Holden.&#8221; he he thats thinkin</p>
<p>one important note on V8 supercars is it is a V8 highly controlled spec category. i dont know if production car racing really exists any more aswell.</p>
<p>yes you had your nissans that had a good run for a bit put didnt the tightening of the eligability criteria prove that people wanted to see V8&#8242;s running around? i think the success of V8&#8242;s wouldnt be as great as it is now if they hadnt done so.<br />
remember ford ran sierra&#8217;s to try and compete with the other nimble cars out there (well they didnt TRY to compete with them they actually smashed tham)<br />
if nissans etc kept racing ford would just run something like the sierra again and we would be watching &#8220;V6 turbo supercars&#8221; every 3 weeks or so.</p>
<p>and my opinion on toyota entering the competition is short answer NO.<br />
you see ford and holden have put up a lot of money to keep this category going and their patriotism of the sport and theirs alone have seen the sport become the 3rd most popular sport in OZ and also the only sport to have international governments forking out big $$ to get them on their turf.<br />
anyone wanting to get in on that success,to me,would be seen as a &#8220;johnny come lately&#8221;</p>
<p>nothing is stopping them building up their own category of racing</p>
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