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HSV E2 range released

By Matt Brogan |

Holden Special Vehicles today unveiled the all new E Series 2 (E2) range featuring several Australian production car firsts, a significant new design theme and a number of new driver features for Australia’s favourite luxury and performance car company.

Managing Director Phil Harding said 09/09/09 was a proud day for HSV.

“We decided to make a major investment in new product, features and performance, in a time of unprecedented economic turmoil,” Mr Harding said. “The new E2 range is yet another opportunity to demonstrate the engineering and design excellence of HSV.”

A highlight of the new E2 range is the return of the GTS to the top of HSV’s performance pedigree with 325kW of power, hi-flow intermediate exhaust system with bi-modal mufflers, recalibrated Magnetic Ride Control with stiffer springs and 8.5 inch front wheels as standard.

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Range Highlights Include:

  • Daytime Running Lamps
  • Fuel economy savings of up to 4.5 per cent
  • Dramatic new frontal shockwave graphic
  • New driver enhancements including ‘Competition Mode’,  Electronic Stability Control (ESC), Launch Control (manual only) & Extended Cruise Control
  • A range of new options under the banner of ‘SV Enhanced’ including six piston front brake calipers for GTS, a new ‘Performance Suspension’ for Clubsport R8, bi-modal exhaust on ClubSport R8 sedan & Clubsport R8 Tourer, Maloo R8, Senator Signature and Grange
  • No price increase on ClubSport R8, Clubsport R8 Tourer and Maloo R8
  • GTS and Senator Signature rise by just $700

Phil Harding said HSV’s new 325kW GTS continued the forty year tradition of the nameplate being at the pinnacle of Australian performance motoring.

“To be able to deliver a sophisticated, striking modern day interpretation of the GTS performance saloon – at an accessible price – is a tribute to our entire team,” said Mr Harding.

The HSV Engineering story behind E2 began not long after the release of E Series in August 2006.

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The VE architecture gave the HSV Engineering team a wonderful platform to work from and in the three years since, a number of refinements, revisions, updates and upgrades via the release of Grange, Maloo, Tourer and model year changes have bought HSV to the release of E Series 2.

E2 introduces a number of driver enhancements, as well as an increase in the power output for the HSV GTS to 325kW, but not at the expense of fuel economy.

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Chief Engineer Joel Stoddart said one of the goals of the E2 development program was to improve fuel economy.

“We have achieved up to 4.5 per cent improvement in fuel economy, with an auto ClubSport R8 now returning 13.9 litres per 100km,” said Mr Stoddart.

Competition Mode ESC allows enthusiastic driving, while still providing a high level of support from ABS, Traction Control and Stability control systems.

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ESC will be compulsory in all passenger vehicles sold in Australia from 2011.

Intelligent Launch Control comes standard in all manual transmission HSV E2s and removes the guess work from ‘off the line’ starts. Launch Control provides the ability to accelerate from a standstill to the cars maximum potential.

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Extended Cruise Control provides additional confidence for the HSV E2 driver where their vehicle will not exceed the speed they have set the cruise control to. This is particularly important on downhill sections of road, greatly improving safety and minimising the risk of exceeding the speed limit.

In addition to Extended Cruise Control, HSV’s Chief Engineer Joel Stoddart said HSV’s E2 safety story extended to the introduction of stunning new Daytime Running Lamps (DRL).

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“The introduction of DRLs not only make the car stand out more than ever on the road, but are also a safety feature,” Mr Stoddart said. “Recent European studies have shown that appropriate DRL’s can greatly reduce the number of multi-vehicle accidents during the day time.”

Chief of Design and Styling, Julian Quincey, said work on sketching E2 began in early 2007, not long after the original E Series began delivering record sales for HSV.

“Our customers were telling HSV they loved the differentiation the new model delivered, giving us the starting point for designing the next generation,” said Mr Quincey. “We needed a new identity that would both excite the passionate HSV buyer and equally one that could be picked out by the non car enthusiast. This meant that our overall front and rear graphics had to be substantially changed from the original E series and ideally also look lower, wider and more sporty.”

“This made the performance hood a desirable addition to the ClubSport and GTS models. The twin bonnet intakes also work well with our signature twin nostril grill and the feature lines are very dynamic with a strongly angled taper to the front of the car.”

HSV E2 also introduces a ‘shockwave’ graphic theme across the model line-up.

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“The new theme runs across the front and rear graphics, design of the mesh, wheels and exhaust tips,” Mr Quincey said.

The GTS wheel repeats the Shockwave graphic which is heavily emphasised with the use of a polished front face.

Similarly the ClubSport R8 picks up the dynamic angled spoke shape inspired by the graphic.

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The exhaust tips complete HSV’s striking new look with stainless steel surrounds.

Mr Quincey said the addition of ‘Daytime Running Lamps’ to the line-up made E2 stand out from the crowd.

“We felt that such a strong visual cue was crucial to the new cars identity and visibility,” continued Mr Quincey. “I am proud of the entire new package, but particularly just how striking the front of the car appears.”

HSV will launch E2 with no price increases for ClubSport R8, Maloo R8 and Tourer R8, while GTS and Senator Signature price increases have been kept to less than 1 per cent.

“To launch a new range of cars, with a stunning new look and significant driver enhancements with no or little increase in price is great news for HSV customers,” General Manager of Sales Darren Bowler said. “We’re also committed to giving customers a range of performance options to truly customise their HSV purchase.”

The HSV E2 range allows significant customisation, with a number of options available for every model, under the umbrella of ‘SV Enhanced’.

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Customers choosing an SV Enhanced option will receive a new HSV exterior badge.

ClubSport R8 customers can option new ‘Performance’ suspension, bi-modal exhaust, 20 inch wheels and leather interior trim.

Clubsport R8, Tourer R8 and Maloo R8 customers have the option of bi-modal exhaust, leather interior trim and 20 inch wheels.

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GTS customers can option six piston front brake callipers – with larger discs, finished in SV Enhanced yellow. This option includes a unique accent finish for the 20 inch wheel design. GTS is the only model in the E Series 2 range that includes bi-modal exhaust as standard.

Senator Signature and Grange customers can option bi-modal exhaust and 20 inch wheels.

Darren Bowler said the new range had been enthusiastically greeted by potential customers and the Dealer Network alike.

“To have dozens of customers putting deposits on HSV E2 product – sight unseen – demonstrates how strong our brand is, even in the midst of an economic downturn,” Mr Bowler said.

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The new E2 HSV range will be available for test drive in selected HSV dealerships this week.


 
  • Tentacles

    Terrible. That is all.

    • Annette

      JUST GREAT! now we have our very own locally built Mitsubishi Commodore evo. also nice to see them reuse those non-functional hood scoops Holden made for the Pontiac g8 – which got axed Good Job GM.

      so wheres HSV’s leader designer live? a Ph.#?? name?

  • Acfsambo

    Dear God, the new Liberty looks better than this.

    Ricer much.

    • Devil666

      I echo your sentiment to some extent… but the Outback still takes the ugly cake.

  • Motorhead

    The bi-modular exhaust & changes to the DSC & cruise control are pluses but they’re all far to fussy looking for me, at least in the previous generation the Senator wasn’t too bad. The tri spokes on the GTS are almost as bad as the ones they had back on the VR or VS.

  • john

    Agreed, its horrible! What where they thinking!

    • Michael

      Don’t mind the gts except for the bonnet scoops. They should be an option. As for the rest you would be better off buying an ss or a series 1 ve hsv gts or clubbie.

  • HS-WHAT

    I cant believe how monumentally ugly these cars are… The mish-mash of styling is ridiculous. The Grange or Senator or whatever it is even sports a new front which is an exact copy of the previous model Honda accord Euro! I had to double check just to make sure they didnt put a Honda badge in the middle too! Theres holes drilled randomly into panels left right and centre for no functional reason whatsoever, LED daytime running lights ripped off from Audi, the rear diffuser is like a ferrari gone horribly wrong, squared exhausts this time copies of FPVs, and the front air damn is also a copy of Ford’s GT-E airm dam just smaller… its unbelievable how much crap theyve ripped off from other car makers and combined to together to create.. tadda… An ugly and uncohesive car! Truly Hideous! Thanks HSV!

  • Glen

    GTS is the worst looking of the bunch with greyed out grill and absolutely horrid wheels. Dont like the rear bar either looks like a back yard body kit. The front of the clubbie is ok but I liked the old one better.

  • DAVID

    The new look does not appeal to me as much as the previous model. It all looks a little busy at the front with the dual scoops and nostrils. What is this shockwave graphic they speak of….marketing hype?

  • Carfanatic

    The back of the Grange looks like a fat Vectra.

    • Acfsambo

      agreed.

  • Insider

    How long did it take Ford to kill the AU?

  • Daniel

    I just threw up in my mouth a little. Epic fail.

    • john

      same but mine was more violent and i projectile vomited lol the back is so cheap and nasty in fact it all is, e1 was better. Hope they change it sooner rather than later.

    • Carfanatic

      ROTFLMAO! That sums it up in a nutshell.

  • BaseModelLaden

    OMG, shoot the design chief. Audi eyelashes, G8 bonnet scoops, inverse Alice Cooper eyes. Appalling.

  • zahmad

    Sorry HSV, but very ricey and the Liberty is a waaay better looker! (Not ricey)

  • Jon Leong

    the senators grill looks like just like old Honda Accord Euro

    • Jon Leong

      the Grange looks OK… oh wait that because they have done nothing to ruin the styling. correct me if i am wrong… but the only appearance change are the wheels. Actually, aren’t they available as options on E1?

  • Joe Leong

    Good Lord, you got to be kidding me. How bloody ugly is that. Talk about overdoing it!!

  • Grammar Nazi

    These will age terribly. They reek of an over-baked mid-life facelift.

    I can’t help but think that in 20 years time, we’ll all look back at the late 00′s and laugh at the fad that is LED running lights.

    • Astro

      I agree GN.
      LED lighting could be the “Vinyl roof” of the 00′s.

  • Family Guy

    I understand the release date now. Nein, Nein, Nein!

    • NacaYoda

      LMAO. Too true!
      Make it stop!

      Epic fail.

      • http://zuboora.com.au Mohamad is right when he

        lmao good call

    • Benjie

      Haha, comment of the month!

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au V DUBBED

    OH Man my eyes are sting me, it hurts to bad i need to throw up!!!!!! Why did caradvice post so many photos . This is really painful to look at

  • Supply & Demand

    Caradvice should interview the person responsible for the design. There are alot of people searching for answers. Somethings gone horribly wrong somewhere at HSV.

    • Bucks

      If they’re not already fired!

  • Astro

    Way too over the top for my taste.

    It may appeal to the tribal HSV buyer but I don’t think it will attract new ones.

    In one word FUGLY.

  • http://None Peter

    And for that price you get almost limitless Vulgarity.

  • Nick

    Why black plastic Decals??

    They never look good, just cheap and vulgar.

    Congrats HSV, you have encouraged people to buy the standard commodore over your products.

  • Straight shooter

    Oh my lord!

    If only parts bin specials went the way of the dodo. This thing has more holes than some red light districts. What a terrible mix of styling cues, there is not one coherent line from the front.

    At least those who buy it will be seen.

    Failboat!

  • http://zuboora.com.au Mohamad is right when he

    looks like ive just been put off lunch, thank u hsv for making australia slimmer.

    got to love the tri spoke wheels tho ….lmfao

  • http://None Peter

    “Customers choosing an SV Enhanced option will receive a new HSV exterior badge.” – No thank you
    LED lights on the front – No thank you
    Nostrils on the bonnet – No thank you
    Stupid Magna TJ Nose crap on the bumper – No thank you (colour code the bumper while you’re at it)

    Starting to see a trend here HSV? Your SS/SS-V is lovely. Leave it with that styling, just add more power, more brakes, bigger wheels, a better sound and slightly more aggressive suspension. (perhaps even consider making the damn things lighter?)

  • http://zuboora.com.au Mohamad is right when he

    this is what happens when they canned the pontiac gto… we got left with all those fugly bonnets. thanks usa/pontiac…

    p.s still loving those tri spoke wheels lmao.

  • Lexustime

    Why didnt they colour code the rear chrome bar on the tourer wagon? it looks too similar to the normal Holdens with the chrome on the back.

  • Yanzo

    the white one has the best body kit, and i’m gonna laugh if holden doesn’t sell many

  • Carfanatic

    Does this mean HSV now stands for Holden Shocking Vehicles?

  • Lexustime

    by the way i love it! Boy, we have some unique cars down under!

  • alex

    Ill wait till I actually see one before I judge but the photos dont look very promising (Grange in particular)! It looks like HSV have tacked on some FULLY SICK COMMODORE body kits haha

    Im sure they will be a brilliant drive.

    FPV FTW!

  • kiwimark

    I have to disagree with the vinyl roof comments in regards to the LED’s, as I dont think the vinyl was meant to make it look like it was doing a 100 sitting still, no that was the job louvres.
    The senator looks like it has a double chin (like the man on monti python with the chocolate slice)
    As for the changes I cannot understand much of the changes as it looks like an HSV with inspiration from ‘Evo’ 1 – 10.

  • Neo

    This thing is Fugly. and the shocking auto is still a $2000 extra BTW on the HSV Site it says Launch Control is an Aussie production car first. how can Launch Control in HSV be an Aussie Car First when the FG Falcon Has this?

  • Menzies

    The E series was the first time I looked at an HSV product and thought it was classy. The front bar, the side vents, tail lamps and spoilers all took the basic quality of the VE’s shape and stepped it up.

    I took it seriously as a company and thought that Holden must have finally stepped in and added there touch to HSV’s work

    The E series 2 takes HSV is sadly a step backward. The Senator looks like a kitted Elantra with hub caps and the rest of the range seem equally fussy and “cheesy” for the want of a word.

    Great news for FPV, lets hope their update does not go down this path.

  • Peace

    Bloody hell……HSV have really done a job on this!! without doubt the worst front end and wheels I have ever thrown up on……ugly overdone try hard. HSV just lost another customer…..

    VE body is starting to look very dated and throwing all this bling at it makes it look like mutton dressed up as lamb…..YUK!!

    • Acfsambo

      More like mutton dressed up as a carcass.

  • Škoda Freak

    Soooooo…

    Going by all the comments on here, this has turned out to be an absolute winner for HSV and GMH?!?

    What a shame we can’t embed html into the comments, I really wanted to include the pic of the big container ship half capsized with the “EPIC FAIL” caption on it. :)

  • Jimmy James

    Heinous.

  • Titan

    I love the $20 antenna above the rear window… all class.

  • Dude

    Seems like HSV has tried to emulate some styling techniques from FPV…but not very sucessfully

  • The Associate

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
    My god those are ugly!!
    I’m a Ford man but even I thought the VE Series I range of HSVs looked good!
    This is a massive step backwards!!

    “…‘shockwave’ inspired theme…” YEH IT’s SHOCKING ALRIGHT!!!

  • Captain Nemo

    My my i never realised there was so many unemployed people out there posting hateful comments during working hours when they should be looking for a job. BTW i’m on my lunch break using my Iphone not the company’s PC.

    • Carfanatic

      I work in the industry, it’s called research!

      Speaking of lunch I might have a pizza!

      • NacaYoda

        No need to go out for Pizza Carfanatic, just scroll up.
        There’s lots of new HSV flavours available!

        • Carfanatic

          Hmmm, they do look like the leftovers now you mention it!

    • HS-WHAT

      Spot on mate, everyone with an opinion different to yours is an unemployed bum. Because theres no such thing as an Internet connection at work. Well done, you must be a MAC Genius !

    • crouchy

      What an ignorant and idiotic comment. You even managed to ‘drop’ that you have an iphone. Congratulations!

  • Daniel

    The designer of the “Walkinshaw” Commodore VL is back!

  • Tim

    No class at all.

  • nobody

    Holden did a great design job with the Camaro, how did they screw up so bad with this? I see alot of elements from other cars all mismatched into this HSV. It’s what alot of Chinese car companies are doing with their cars, I didn’t expect this from Holden – who have been designing cars for ages.

    The LED daytime lights top off an already horrible cake, not to mention the GTS wheels are one of worst things ever conceived. Perhaps this is the only time when a Daewoo designer would’ve done a better job.

    • Carfanatic

      Maybe the chinese have put in a secret bid for HSV and this is their way of preparing us all for the official announcement!

    • Motorhead

      Holden didn’t do the styling of the Camaro they were involved in the engineering side.
      I think HSV has it’s own designers separate to Holden too.

  • Tristan

    In the picture of the red GTS’s ghastly wheel the yellow dot on the tyre which is suppose to line up with the valve, DOES NOT. In my very unprofessional opinion if they cant put a set of tyres on some rims how is the rest of the car going to hold up.

  • Flying High

    actually they look fine to me. really cant understand the fuss.

    • Belinda

      The V-TEC just kicked in yo!!

  • Yianni

    Yeah, lets grab some plastic bits and glue them on the car.

    This is an epic fail with no serious presence on the road.

    Holden should look at how the Germans do a performance car and take some pointers.

    This E2 range looks like an after market job done by two 18 year old kids that just got their licence.

    • My Cars Called T-Rex

      Holden should look at how the Germans do a performance car and take some pointers.

      Why?? Its An Aussie Muscle Car.A wolf in wolfs clothing,not in sheeps clothes.

      • My Cars Called T-Rex

        But its a pretty ugly wolf

  • Goodfa

    EEEEeeeeeeEEEEEEeeeeEEEE BY 2

  • Billy Jones

    The AU Falcon is not longer Australias most ugly car. HSV has surpassed the AU series 1.

    You have to wonder how many bogan sheep will be after this gem. Can’t wait to see the southern cross on the rear window, along with 05.

  • Mr Brooksy

    I’m sorry HSV, not to rip you off too much for this… I’m using your slogan to make my point…

    I just DON’T want one!!

    Any more slits and holes in the body work and the thing may as well be a strainer. And those wheels on the GTS! Wow, unbelievably ugly!!

  • Jimmy

    Underneath all that superficial add-on crap (bonnet scoops, weird badging, led lights, matchbox toy wheels), I essentially like the shape still. It’s almost like a girl who was already really gorgeous, but decided to get implants even though she didn’t need them… disappointingly unnecessary but still pretty hot.

  • davie

    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! My eyes!

    The horror… the horror…

    What on earth is this?!?!?!? No one told me that Korea had bought HSV.

    This is worse than those awful aftermarket fiberglass kits that hyaundai excels used to have

    Ferrari testarossa louvered vents, Audi LED’s, strange blackouts, wierd insert in the rear bumper. BMW grille, awful bonnet, pointless mercedes style side vents

    Make it stop. waaaaahhh PLEASE MAKE IT STOP !!!!

    • Tael

      hai gaiz.. lets use those fake hood scoops from the death bedded Pontiac G8 on our beasts. we need moar ventz!!! i mean speed holes!!!

  • Spaghetti

    Seriously, what have HSV done?!
    The grils are all wrong, the wheels are terrible, the L.E.D.’s are in the wrong place, the yellow gts colours look appalling, and the senator looks like a honda accord. Please retain the the lines of the previous model and only make slight changes until you completely redesign the range.

  • FPV Turbo

    Holdens new slogan: “GO UGLY” I’m not sure where they get Go Better from because how many recalls and mechanical problems the billion dollar VE has had since it was born, give me a Ford anyday now your talking rock solid.

    How bad does the scoops look, now I cant see my screen,,,,,,,,,,,, just VOMITED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FPV beats HSV hands down…

    • michael blake

      KISS MY HAIRY ASS YOU FAT BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      FORD SUCKS DICK!!~!!!! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF YOU SNOTTY-NOSED BRAT!!!!

    • sam

      Ford suck dick, the GTS looks amazing, especially the back.. its just different

  • ABMPSV

    I this HSV is so good how come only around 1000? sold OS. Even Skoda is selling in more countries than this so called Best Car. I can only see big engine and No technology. Every year they just increase the size of engine and they saying – we beat the Germans – What about make engine smaller with more power and less fuel. That is a challenge!! They should go to Europe 24H Nurburgring if is so good. Japanese go there so does the Americans with Corvette and they did well in 24H Le Mans! HSV it is easy to be a big boy at home where is no competition. Go OS!!

  • Gilly

    The new HSV’s must have a great personality!

  • Technofreak

    OMG!! ROFLMAO!! you have got to be kidding!!?? That goes in the book under Butt-ugly….and next to the sign that says \’Wrong Way Go Back\’….hehehehe.

    It\’s great I needed a good laugh for today!! thanks ;)

  • Lukaas

    hahahaha

    sorry, it reminded me of that Simpsons episode where Homer designed his own car….

    ridiculously over-worked…. maybe… just maybe, the entire design team knew they were leaving at the end of the project so they decided to go all out and style possibly the most over cluttered production car.. that fresh off puberty boys who are obsess with tacky plastic kits and mishmash styling would be proud of.

  • HBB

    Hi All, Can’t agree more with all the above comments about the looks of new HSV.
    I picked up my new E1 Clubport R8 yesterday and was very worried about the new shape, but guess what I can’t stop laughing. I saved $17K on the price of the new car which will go towards awesome upgrades including a blower.
    I don’t mind the front of the new car but the rear, what were they thinking…come on, atleast they should have showed it to few of their loyal customers and asked for their opinion.
    I know lot of places in melbourne who do custom body kits, they would have saved HSV a lot of $$$$ and given them something to smile about..
    But if you are in market for one, now is not a bad time to buy the old one at ridiculous price.
    HSV faithful customer.

    • NacaYoda

      I think asking advice from a “few of their loyal customers” might have been the problem.

      “Add some Euro class with Audi driving lights.” Tick.
      “Lift our muscle with some bonnet vents, loved the GTO!” Tick.
      “Ford thinks their pretty clever with square exhausts huh?” Snap!
      “You can design you own rims on the Playstation 3… check it out” PWNed!
      “The Japs aren’t the only ones who can do bodys. Eat this Evos!” Dusted.

      Famous last words? “It’s got everything you ever wanted!”

  • VT368rwkw

    Hey that looks great, aggressive but not over the top all you fordys are just jelous case fpv carnt even afford new mags and have a 6 cylinder from the 50’s’s for there cars, never mind stuff like the new exhaust and launch control.
    HSV will always be king in aus and the GTS with extra power and new exhaust is a shoe in for Bathurst, fords at the top of supercars is over with the E2
    Who wants to drive a ford taxi, when this thing will murder it off the line

    • Carfanatic

      Just a Guess here Einstein, but more than half the guys here bagging the looks are probably Holden supporters. I for one don’t care much for Ford or Holden, but HSV have turned a nice looking car in to a Hideous hunk of metal.

      • VT368rwkw

        look carfagatic Im just telling you what aus thinks, this will outsell fpv 3 to one easy they are a tough looking car espically when they dominate supercars in 2010 i have a mate who works for hsv and he says the car is much quicker off the line than the new ford and the new front spoiler gives it much better stability when your up it, so its function over form not like poser fpv with its tiny brakes and mags as old as its engine.

        • NacaYoda

          If HSV have the performance, what on earth are they trying to prove with all the hideous bling? Surely you’d agree they should stick to what they are good at (ie, engineering) and not asthetic design “enhancement”! They’ve shot themselves in the foot by placing to focus 100% on these butt-ugly exteriors. Silly boys.

          • PSImonkey

            Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, your right though HSV have got the performance and they are the experts at engineering, now they have the style. Hope the boys and girls out at Clayton are ready to put in the long hours, because they will be churning these out!

    • buzzliteyear

      Ferrari’s drive great too but they don’t look revolting. If you read some of the comments even the Holden/HSV supporters are puking on their computers. I don’t care how great it drives, it’s butt ugly. The AU proved that, and it didn’t take long before they made it over, I give HSV a year before they do the same.

    • john

      Hate it when people insult the I6, once they have upgraded it by mid next year it will be the best 6 cylinder in the country.

      • PSImonkey

        Don’t think VT368rwkw was really insulting ford I6, just stating the facts, I mean what other manufacturer is sticking with inline configurations, BMW is the obvious exception but the brains at BMW are just a little bit more savy than Fords, Holden need to get rid of the pushrod V8 just as much as Ford need to offload the I6, don’t think any bandaid upgrade will fix that, anyway having best 6 in country is not something to be proud of, having a decent design team that understands the way the world is evolving is more important which is why HSV are up there with the Euros!

        • john

          I6s are in fact better than v6s. the v6 was created to save room in the engine bay but V-shaped engines all have a slight loss of power on the down-stroke. This is due to primary dynamic imbalance which is caused by an uneven number of pistons in each cylinder bank causing a rocking motion from one end of the engine to the other. The I6 has a perfect balance configuration. BTW hsv are not anywhere near Euros.

          • whatefa

            In your opinion

  • james

    I love the new HSV E2 I cant see what there is not to like.

    • Jester

      Try opening your eyes first.

  • jaycar

    Oh! Mister HSV….WHAT A MESS!!

  • PSImonkey

    I reckon it grows on you, do you really think HSV are going to release something they have been getting dodgy feedback on? Do you think those images just leaked out? Any of you ford bogans heard of market research? HSV has always been years ahead, look outside the square people, looks like another winner to me!

    • Shak

      Im a very loyal HSV fan and even to me they have f@cked up the range. The old range looked aggressive and the new one just doesnt quite do it. the GTS and R8 look ok but they have ruined the Senator. It looks like a tacky chinese grille was found and stuck on our proud exec mobile. Even though i despise FPV they seem to have found the balance between wierd and just plain fugly like these cars. lets hope that when the VF range is released that HSV find their way again. (sob sob, theyre really hurting my eyes)

  • Liam

    Have they started smoking crack at fishermans bend or something?

    • Byron

      Ok, i agree it’s not the best looking car out there. Didn’t like it at first & like pther it does grown on you. Just like E1 & VE & Cruze. I think the majority of ppl on this site blogging have some hatred against Holden/HSV. I swear as soon as Holden/HSV brings out a new car, everyone pays it out straight away. What have they done to you? It really annoys me, cause there are hundred of useless comments that aren’t needed.

      Anyway back to E2. Grange is pick of the range. I don’t mind that new back. Still growing on me. I don’t mind the front apart from Senator. Reminds me to much of a 09 Honda Legend. I love those front/back LED lights. I agree with the other comment about how the images are shot. It makes the car look arkward. Can’t wait to see one in the metal. All these exterior/interior/engine upgrades will once again make a aussie buyer think twice about HSV. I think HSV has secured sales once again. Who would buy a FPV? A blind person probs. Go Holden/HSV

  • Johno

    Looks absolutely terrible – was there an explosion in the HSV design studio..?

    • PSImonkey

      Explosion in my pants when i seen it

      • buzzliteyear

        Mate I think you meant in your “head” not your “pants”. And if you meant in your pants it’s obviously from your rear, and that’s OK, like everyone else who’s commented on these HSV’s you’re just vomitting at the other end.

        • spvd02

          LMAO! What a comeback – smartarse :)

        • PSImonkey

          No meant front of my pants, got a bit of a stiffy bout half a bar I reckon, series 1 was good but these are just an improvement in all areas, just thinking about it gets me wet!

  • Kev

    What were they thinkin?!! The rear bumper looks awful, the big mesh insert looks completely out of place and ridiculous… looks worse than after market kits. This will probably be the end of HSV…. now time to clean up the vomit on my keyboard….

    • Aurion Fan

      Its to let the hot air out the bumper generates.

  • Zach

    yous have all jumped the gun, i think you have to wait till you see it in the flesh(not a picture) to make an over the top comment like half you guys have. i think it looks good and it will look awesome on the road.

    • Aesthetic Referee

      Yes exactly Zach. The 750 high resolution photos from every conceivable angle included in the article do a poor job of portraying what the car looks like.

  • wayne

    I’m a Holden man thru and thru but these thing are pig ugly, FPV must be laughing!!!!

    • Wheelnut®™

      I think the main thing that makes the new HSVs look ugly are the position of the LED Driving lights.. However; [whilst I'm not defending HSV] let’s put it into some kind of perspective they look just as bad/tacky as war-paint under the headlights on the current FPVs..

      • Aurion Fan

        Those fog lights generate alot of heat,There got the cooling treatment too.FPV have black around there lights so the paint don’t blister from the heat.Thats why aurions don’t need cooling around the lights,there got F1 tech,they figured out how to cool lights long ago.

        • Sensible Car Fan

          Toyota uses cardigans underneath the fog lamps to prevent them scorching the car park at the bowling club.

          • Matt

            lmao

      • The Realist

        Are you joking? Look at that rear end… the bonnet scoops… the decals… it’s not just the LEDs making this thing look cheap and nasty.

      • Tomas79

        Or the typical Holden/HSV poor build quality such as the nasty weld, at 11 o’lock position of the wheel arche!! As can bee seen on the following pic..

        http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hsvE211.jpg

  • Byron

    THE HSV RANGE – GTS/R8 don’t like GTS wheels & don’t like the back end. Senator looks good & that back end does go good together. GRANGE looks yum. Very grown up now. I think E2 will grown on me. Give it a chance. Didn’t like VE at 1st but i love it now. Go HSV :)

  • Andrew

    Is it just me or does the front bar on all these cars not sit flush with the side skirts, like the side skirts are the same of of the SS not the HSV unique ones the old VZ series had, and you can see it, the front bar sits noticably lower then the rest of the kit, it looks wierd.

  • Krish

    Oh man, these things are UGLY!!!! What happened to the Senator? So disappointed. Was actually thinking of upgrading to the new R8 from my 04 Lib GT. Not a chance of that happening anymore, it just looks SO freaki’in TACKY!

  • Alex

    They’re so ugly I think they gave me cancer! These may actually be the worlds ugliest cars. The first cars that you should wear protection when you get in so you don’t catch something nasty.
    I like the three spoke wheels, though they are a bit Saab, but everything else should be incinerated.

  • Fox

    Wow! I always thought the FPV cars looked good. They look even better now after this monstrosity..
    The only thing that looks worse than the front is the back of the car.

  • The Realist

    What did they do to that rear end… my god…

    Holden (!) will want to distance themselves from these monstrosities…

  • Mr Right

    LOL !!!!!,

    Guy’s say what you want.

    The fact of the matter is in 3months u’ll like it.

    HSV always grows on you.

    This always happens.

    • Krish

      Don’t know about that. During the release of the Series one E series, the general consensus from the public was pretty positive (regarding the styling). From the reactions on this website and others, its not looking good for HSV. Now, if ever, is FPV’s chance to win some (a LOT) of HSV’s customers.

      • Mr Right

        If the FPV dealerships let you test drive there cars lol

    • buzzliteyear

      I have to agree with Krish, it shouldn’t have to grow on you the E1 series didn’t, they had instant appeal with an overall beauty that suited the whole car, plus when it was released you had some of the Ford/FPV fan boys give it kudos not crap.

      When you look at this the middle section of the car is so out of place. On some of the models the front and end stylings look like they’re from differnt cars.

      The overall feel from EVERYONE Holden/Ford lovers, HSV have missed the mark.

  • Andrew M

    Wow, but not in a good way.

    The biggest disappointment is the Senator, they totally ruined a nice looking car there. The rest arent any better.

    For some reason the white example looks better than the rest. Perhaps because it hides the poxy “daytime” lights

  • Not a fan

    It is the tackiest car I have ever seen, FPV boys must be rolling on the floor with laughter I know I am.

  • vt368rwkw

    hate to spoil all you ford boys party but im mates with someone very high up at HSV and word has it the GTS is putting out 340+kw, they just dont want to start a supercar scare, there you go makes the F6 270kw look pretty poor

    • Pablo

      340kW – yeah right!

    • Rick Shaw

      the fg f6 has 310kw. they also pull consistent 280rwkw. and just a custom tune and it will tip the 300rwkw.

      • Mitch1

        I’d be very surprised to see 400rwhp with just a tune.

    • spetty

      The cleaner tell you that?

    • PSImonkey

      Ha Ha who do you think your kidding 340kW, I think the 325kW would be very conservative though, all you need to do is flash the ECU and change the air cleaner to a free flowing one and I heard they are good for 360kW, so they must be leaving some room for improvement

    • Matt

      XR6T is (under)quoted as 270, F6 310. Theres those stories of XR6Ts putting out more on the dyno than a E1 GTS tested on the same dyno…

  • Cheboorator

    Helloooo from JustCommodores!!!

    Anyway. This looks horrible. What were the designers thinking!!?!!?! My mum can design a better looking car.

    Did you guys put enough vents in it? i think you need another 10 some on the roof in the boot, and a few more speed holes.

    And don’t get me started on the rims…. Ule they look fuly sik bro

  • jon

    OMG what the hell were they thinking, this seriously looks like some cheap ar#e body kit that some povo tool has put on and thinks looks good. Man if I was a supporter of this product I would be massively embarrassed and devastated that this is the best they could manage. Well this just proves what I have always thought of HSV`s, just dressed up Omegas but this time the Omega looks 100% better. Haha imagine being a fleet car driver or a taxi driver driving around in the budget model that looks better than the so called premium car. LOL

  • Smith

    HSV really takes the cake for tacky try-hard design with this revision. The outgoing wasnt that bad to begin with. Designers ran out of ideas and copied bits of everything which sums up to a dogs breakfast.

  • GTR

    I hope HSV is playing a practical joke on us…….

  • crouchy

    So heres where all this mayhem came from…

    Base Car: Holden
    Engine: GM
    Bonnet: Pontiac G8
    Front Bumper Theme: Ford Kinetic
    Front End Black Outs: FPV
    Daytime LED’s: Audi
    Side Vent: Mercedes Benz
    Rear Bumper: God knows
    Rear Bumper Side Vents: Porsche 911 GT2
    Wheels: Bob Jane T-Mart Specials
    Shockwave Graphics: ……oh dear…..

    So you can see that someone went window shopping and unfortunately this is what came out the other end..

    Such a shame for HSV. As a fan of cars in general, this is dissapointing.

    • buzzliteyear

      Hey you forgot to add where they sourced the tacky “HSV helmet/flag” badges.

      • crouchy

        Oh i forgot to mention it… Originally seen on the 40th Anniversairy GTS..

    • davie

      Rear bumber vent things

      1970′s ferrari testarossa

  • Trent

    well its certainly a lot to take in. I saw leaked photos and didnt really like them, but ive been looking at the released photos and its growing on me. Personally i think the FPVs are ugly and always have been, they remain more ugly than the new HSV. You will all complain but they will go from showroom floors. Its a bit more outgoing but so it should be, whats the point in spending all that cash and having a car that looks like the base model v8 commodore?

    • PSImonkey

      Thats spot on, look at just how much of a talking point they are already, for every critic there is no doubt soemone with taste and the actual money to buy one that likes them, I don’t think HSV would be too worried about sales, not when the competition is jokers like FPV, not even Mr Magoo is going to buy an FPV over a HSV. If you don’t want to be noticed then buy an SV6

      • Azza

        I disagree with both of you… In fact, you’re both idiots.

        FPV have got it above HSV because they know how to make a car look tough, mean and graceful all in the one go. Not by putting some blocks together and forgetting to shave the edges off like HSV have. FPV also have a lot more to offer than what HSV do, better looks for one good example. They also come at a cheaper price. The reason that they come at a cheaper price then what HSV do, is because Ford are currently not struggling with bankruptcy… The reason HSV are struggling in bankruptcy??? Because no one wants to buy an overpriced, overweight and well and truly under impressive looking car…

        • PSImonkey

          Whats the sales figures say? they don’t lie

      • 4:20 All Day

        I don’t think I’ve ever heard ‘taste’ being mentioned, in the positive sense at least, when refering to a HSV. Fast and relitively affordable maybe, but HSV are taste’s anti-christ.

  • Emily

    OMG!!! welcome to your Mitsubishi Commodore Evo. wth has become of HSV!! :(

  • sintilate

    absolutely brilliant – Honda and BMW grills, Ford front bumber, Merc vents,lots of go faster weight saving (n money saving) holes everywhere, every 8yr old boys dream, all we need is some go fast flames on the sides. only one critisism – the Maloo’s and Granges exhausts are far too small – need to be bigger – then we’d have the perfect car to be modeled by hot wheels.

  • HBB

    I am fan of both HSV’s & FPV’s and I think who actually spends money on them, they can see the value in it rather than people who have opinion about everything but won’t spend money to see what both of these cars are made up of.I don’t know why people will start a comparison with Euro market or for that reason Japan.These countries have history of making and inventing things etc. and we will get there but it will take us some time. The other thing is the cost as well, yes cost,I would love to see any of the above people who comments about Oz cars to go and spend $250K plus on AMG’s and BMW’s and then sell them few years later for $180K less, then I will ask you the quality etc. vs the money you spent. Plus the maintenance costs etc. which goes with it.
    When I saw the first E1 at release it really was something impressive, a bit vulgar but impressive, not for people who like the M5′s or AMG’s but for people who like Ford XR8 & SS.
    And I agree with people who mentioned that wait for the car and then comment.
    That’s what I did and I took a HSV on a test drive and went to a Ford showroom and parked next to an FPV(which I think is also an awesome looking car). In Flesh, in my opinion HSV had more looks and cues of a well thought about car between the two from an Oz point of view.
    Coming to question in hand that the car would grow on you, and it is a good looking HSV, well sorry boys and girls you can justify it only to yourself not to the general public. If you want one just get one, but I believe HSV made a mistake and I know they will rectify in next model.
    Subaru WRX made a mistake with the bug eyed WRX and fixed in few years, lost few customers but that’s what mistake cost you.
    There are so many other manufacturers who made mistakes so what if HSV made a mistake.
    But try not to defend it as it will look pretty stupid.
    Please don’t compare Euro’s with HSV’s & FPV’s unless they cost the same……
    Go HSV’s and FPV’s but seriously not current HSV….
    HSV loyal customer.

    • RdS

      good example of ‘different strokes for different folks’; i loved the bugeye wrx when it was released, and is still my favourite looks-wise.
      basically, for every person who is hating the looks of the E2 HSV’s, there’ll be someone who likes it.

      • Matt

        Going from the comments here, the dislikes greatly outweigh the likes

        • whatefa

          Yeah, like you’d take notice of these comments as being representative, impartial and non biased

  • kiwimark

    crouchy:

    The rear bumper looks like the one on a Aurion Sportivo.

  • John

    Usually with the release of a new model or significant upgrade of an existing model, the resale values of the current one drop quite a bit. This may just be the exception too the rule. Everyone will be holding onto their S1′s and not letting them go because the S2 is as ugly as Sh*t. Just kidding! I for one am currently looking at a F6E or senator as my replacement vehicle, now looking at pictures of the S2 I am going too not bother and just look at a 2nd hand S1 LS3 instead. HSV in their quest too differentiate their cars from the holden underlings (at customers requests I might add) have gone a step too far and hit their cars with a big ugly stick!

  • Paul

    I’ve been driving an S8 in Germany for the last few years, and now that I’m relocating to Aussie I’ve been looking for some time at what to buy. I held my breath with the rest of you for the release of the E2. All considered its better than I expected. I agree with the comments that HSV shouldn’t be compared to Audi or BMW. If I wanted to blow 100K to 200K on a car I would. Truth is I dont, I just want something that performs well and looks good for the money. All cars in Aussie are overpriced – its a fact. HSV has tried at least to provide something that looks hot at a price level most of us can hope to aspire too, and I for one applaude the effort. It takes balls to go all out on design and performance in a new range. They can forget the silly website and videos tho. I’ve just decided – I’m going to get one.

  • Stevie

    Yeah I currently own a BMW M6, and Im looking to buy another aussie performance barge. close to 90K for the new Grange/Senator sounds very cheap to me and the looks are obviously fantastic. I wont even bother to test drive one or check it out in real life, infact Holden is such a ballsy company that I’ve decided to just order two, one for weekdays, one for weekends. Top job Holden, stick it up the big guys!

    • Not a fan

      Err, last time I checked General Motors was one of the “big guys” Stevie.

      • Carfanatic

        Maybe he was aiming that comment at Toyota, seeing as they are the only Motor company larger.

  • Jeza

    After wasting so much company time yesterday LMAO I decided to have another look today at the 100′s on new comments and off I went again. I really find comments from some people extra funny… it’s got 5000rwkw, wheel stands off the line blah blah blah cause my mate told me….and the like. Any educated person already knows that HSV make good DRIVING cars and some mean looking ones in the past but with the E2 it’s just ugly! Who wants a car to “grow” on you unless your hoping to pick one up cheap in 5 to 10 years. HSV owners should hang onto what they currently have because those cars will increase in value with the E2 on the road. Also, reading the comments vt368rwkw made, why do you keep saying Ford boys? Maybe you haven’t read ALL of the feed back because the comments are from Ford people, Holden people, HSV people and everyone in between. Are you that excite that you might consider trading your 10 year old VT for one mmmm? Proberbly not, but having all that “extra” power would be great when your trying to get away from the traffic lights when people are laugh at you for buying an ugly car. HSV have tarnished their good name with this E2 “parts bin special”

    • Carfanatic

      I love how someone claims they will trade down from an M6 for two of these. Hahahahahahahaha. He is either going broke or lost his marbles.

    • PSImonkey

      It will be numbers through the showroom that dictates whether the HSV name is tarnished or not, reckon if someone offered you a drive you wouldn’t knock it back.
      Ha Ha reading VT368RWKW comments, don’t think he / she would trade the VT for anything, maybe a HQ manaro!

  • Belinda

    why on earth do people think the E2 is ugly for the fact that it has cost saving parts and is fractionally cheaper than a BMW/Audi/Merc? HSVs aren’t cheap vehicles themselves in the scope of things and there are plenty of better looking cars that cost half an HSV. Money does not dictate shapes in design, it dictates aesthetic elements and material use. the least HSV can do is get their proportions right. it almost looks as if HSV could SAVE money if they kept it plain and simpler.

    Accord euro would be the best example of fine lines, correct proportions while still looking like a million bucks. it didn’t take money to come up with a look like that, it took a decent designer who is past puberty.

    • ABMPSV

      I agree 100%.

  • Hjalle

    Oh dear….

  • HSV owner ##

    I love my HSVs. I just recently sold my VE R8 Clubsport just in time for the new E2. IF only the prices above were accurate with dealers :/ They are more $ then above.

  • axe

    There still using a pushrod engine that’s over 50 years old and they think that is normal. They just open up the shipping Crete with the imported engines from the US and away they go. HSV is just a tuning company; with all respect it’s not a real car company. If you look at it this way they grab the SS from the Holden and tune the motor and suspension and change the bumpers give you a few options and away they go. I’m sure your local tuning workshop could do a similar job. I laugh every time a new HSV is released all they do is retune the engine and make minor cosmetic changes like front /rear bars and wheels, and they fool the public into thinking its all new. On this note I do admire HSV/Holden’s marketing team they do a great job in convincing the public of this. Lets be honest the interior is dated badly, and the exterior is not far behind. Its clear that GM financial woes have taken a blow on Holden. There improving the mechanics but have left the design untouched. I can’t see the exterior going down well with customers for the next 4 years.

    At this stage your probably thinking I am a crazed ford fanatic ……sorry I am not. I am an engineer looking at it from an engineer’s perspective. I think its time we get a new HSV, with an Australian inspired engine for a start. Ford can do it and its sales figures are a lot less than Holden.

    Like me most Australians I defend HSV in public and when I go overseas, to the bone just because it’s Australian. I think HSV needs to catch on real quick and stop turning out the same machinery.

    Im not looking at figures im looking at the image HSV is creating of australian engineering all over the world. let me make it simple for all those who cant get there head around it

    5.0lt——-need more power, so
    5.7lt——-need more power, so
    6.0lt——-need more power, so
    6.2lt——-need more power, so
    7.0lt——-need more power, so……

    its not joke anymore.

    Lets move forward, quad cams, multivalve, with some VCT, and direct injection. hang on a good start will be there new v6, add 2 more cylinders maybe a turbo or supercharger if needed…….. i know its not as simple as that but belive me its a start. I think HSV is running out of puff…i bet if they had the cash we would already have this engine.

    p.s. to measure up how bad Holdens financial woes are, they have failed to rectify a design problem witch they have received plenty of negative feed back about. Those annoying fat oversized A pillars are still there….. You can’t be serious Holden.
    If you drive a VE you will know what I am on about.

    • whatefa

      I wouldn’t even know where to begin with this so i’m not going to bother…wasn’t all this posted on another thread?

      • axe

        yes it was …..so i can nail down all the morons who like HSV’s to exercise ther brain muscles and think

    • Adorn4stars

      there are tuning companies and then, there are ‘In-House Factory’ tuning companies like HSV for example, that work on the same bases as AMG is to Mercedes-Benz, BMW M GmbH is to BMW (M3, M5 etc), quattro GmbH is to Audi (RS4, RS6 etc), and FPV is to FordAU. often though, they’re referred to as ‘performance divisions’ instead, as to differentiate them from ‘just tuners’. so no, they’re not ‘real car companies’ – you got that part right – but that’s not the purpose they exist for, so there’s nothing there to critique

      • Azza

        Actually you are wrong there…

        FPV and HSV are supposed to classed as “real car companies”…
        They have their own dealership’s, they have their own manufactoring plants and they’re tested individually. Yes they are a branch off of Ford and Holden, it’s no different to Bugatti being Volkswagens Performance brand. I can see how an argument can be created from this, but look at it this way, STi to Subaru is a tune, as Subaru offer variants to the Impreza and Liberty models with STi. Spoon and Mugen are also tuners to Honda and Acura, Nismo to Nissan… etc. They are tuners… and there is a very, very fine line between them, but when you’re looking at buying a car, and there is an option to select either Ford or Ford Performance Vehicles in your selection box on the internet, that’s when you start to realise that they are two different “car companies”.

        When the a vehicle’s full title from FPV is the ‘FPV F6 Typhoon R- Spec’, and not the “Ford Falcon F6 Typhoon R – Spec (FPV Tuned)”, is the second hint to show that they are two different car companies.

  • Ben

    5.0lt——-need more power, so
    5.7lt——-need more power, so
    6.0lt——-need more power, so
    6.2lt——-need more power, so
    7.0lt——-need more power, so……Put a 16 litre 2 valve V8. HSV Im trying to compansate for something lol.
    This cars ugly in pics, might look better in the flesh, but no way does it look better then the XR models let alone the FPV’s. New GS looks way better then this, Ford and FPV will be laughing there heads off at this car….I no I am lol hahahahahaha. Bring on FPV’s new models next year, gonna be way better then this. Just hope they dont do the same thin as HSV have done here.
    Oh n fords new 5litre V8 has been said to make 330kws in the 5litre form, thats without the rumored stroker kit(5.8 litre) and the seen Supercharged version that was seen on this sight. Is this what the early 70′s felt like when the XW/XC where pretty much the dominate and best looking cars? I like it alot =) FORD AND FPV ARE NUMBER 1!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Ben

      Supercharged version was seen at FPVs test grounds with the front car bra on. Photographer said he could here the whine of a supercharger coming and when it went past was just all V8 rumble, and hummered past really quickly. A spokesman that day from FPV also said that they are testing “a new V8 engine” Lets put to n 2 together hey???

    • ABMPSV

      Ford or Holden is not No1. It will be if they go to Europe to do those 24H races for production cars and win. What about that. Just look at the V8 races. It is a joke. Only Holden and Ford can race. Where is the competition or we are afraid of Honda, Toyota, Audi…etc In Germany anybody can enter long as your car is a V8 4 liter engine.

  • meow

    Wow, the HSV range just went from bad to worse. What an awful time to be a Holden fanboy.

  • Peter

    I’m a Ford fan and I must admit Ford has had to play catch up i.e HSV for all the years without a V8, however this new range is overdone. HSV have tried to incorporate the Audit front led lights (which doesn’t work) and those GTS mags are hideous (look like the nuclear symbol) ha ha

    These cars are starting to look like transformers! Will they soon fly and run as well?

  • Mumble Duck

    I don’t know. We’ll see if the sales are good. Then the majority of the public will obviously like them.

  • Ranil

    Much uglier than the last version.

    Should sell by the truckload.

  • Ranil

    Much uglier than the last version.

    Therefore will probably sell by the truckload.

  • Simon

    HUGE hsv fan

    hate the E2 series with a passion, it looks like some westy and his friends have been given 2 strips of LED’s and had permission to design a body kit, absolutely try hard

  • Jester

    HSV’s and FPV’s are all taxi’s with ugly looking bodykits. Maybe when they take these cars to the Ring and show me the lap times I’ll reconsider their sporty pretensions, although I seriously doubt it.

    • Wheelnut®™

      That may be so ..

      However; when you consider the torture of stop start driving most Taxis [Falcons and Commodores] are put through for up to 18-24 hours a day by their overly aggressive drivers – compared to the 2-4 hours of driving [to and from the local shops] cars like Camrys and Aurions are put through each week by their dithering elderly drivers

      It shows that [despite what you might think] the fact that HSVs and FPVs are derived from Taxis they are based on cars that have a proven record for reliability and longevity. Because the last thing a Taxi owner/driver wants is a car that spends alot of time off the road and is costly to repair

      Then there’s the fact that most Police cars [Falcons and Commodores] which also receive rather harsh treatment – particularly in pursuits.. which tests there performance and handling characteristics

      .. and what do you think Merc-Benzs Audis and BMWs are in Germany..? TAXIS and Police Cars

  • matt

    ugly, tacky, tasteless,

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  • HSV LOVER

    YOU guys are all bloody wrong, go out and look at one, in person, test drive and see what you think afterwards, these cars are unbelievable, the pictures are good but don’t do them justice, also i’m sick of all you outsider young people bagging them cos you guys can’t afford one and will nerver get to drive one,….. saying that, you only have negative things to say about them because you are all jelous you cant have one!!!!!

    appreciate the car for what it is not what it looks like in a release photo!!!!

    or if you got nothing nice to say don’t say it at all….. that’s what mothers years ago tought us

    • Matt

      Yep, been there, done that.

      As a result my opinion is:

      very ugly, very tacky, very tasteless

  • Mick

    A mate picked his up last Friday and I ordered mine yesterday. I appreciate not everyone likes the look but I reckon it’s great. Drive one and your view may change. I bought mine to drive not pose in, possibly the negative comments are coming from people that want a car in the hope being seen in it will add to their masculinity?

  • Mike

    What’s with all the haters. These cars r amazing.

  • Carfanatic

    VT, I suspect Jeza is neither a Ford or Holden man, so I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him.

  • Jeza

    Carfanatic, I’m just a car person who loves Australian cars. I wouldn’t say no to a F6 FPV or a 427HSV in the shed next to my Falcon and Commodore. Going by the comments that I have read here and on other sites, I’d say that a HSV GTS E2.2 wont be far away with a few cosmetic changes….please HSV, get rid of the try hard bits and pieces and go back to making HSV vehicles stand out because they are HSV’s not because of how much “bling” or “scoops” they have…I bet I get in trouble for wasting more company time, but it’s worth it :-)