Firstly the engine in the citreon if built by Peugeot. 2. They are not turbo charged they work on a higher compression ration that enables them to be mor eficent. 3. Vw, Audi, Porche and volvo all use the audi diesel built engine. Citreon, Jaguar, ford and toyota (europe) all use the epugeot built diesel engines.

If you want to get the service cost down on your european vechile then shop around. I save nearly 70% on all my parts by simply using an aftermarket supplier. I can still service my car at 10years old cheaper than a toyota supra import!

To the person having electrical problems take it to a peugeot factory as the computers are similar. Most parts are interchangeable and the peugeot parts are usally cheaper and visa versa, it always pays to check. In australia you might want to consider contacting Eurocar service center in Brisbane and newmarket they are very cheap when it comes to genuine parts for cit’s and pug. Ask for mick!

The reason that diesels are not popular here is that Holden and Ford can not make a decent diesel engine. The japs cannot make a diesel engine and therefor we do not have many diesel cars. But the strange thing is that most pug’s and citreons and Vw and audi’s selling at the moment are the diesel models and these are selling at a ratio of 6-1 in favor of the dieel. My 407 diesel get an average of 6.6 liters p/100 at an average of 800-950 kil per tank including a mix of city traffic and freeway driving!

My 406 v6 pug get around 600-700 per 60 liter tank. Given the cost of petrol and diesel we should all hold our breath for the new 308 diesel hybrid which blows all current cars out of the water. It has next to no emissions and gets an average of around 3.3-4 liters per hundred depending on the situations.

by the way, Andre Citroen, was actually from the Netherlands. Read his story pretty interesting.

My husband has a garden maintenance business and drives a Citroen Berlingo Van. He is on the road every day with a trailer and has spent average $39 per week on premium unleaded (8000) and has done about 40000kms
Marijke

It’s more a fashion statement than a “A to B” choice.

Fair enough… but looks wise I find it hard to like, if you look at the Proton Savvy it does bear a very distinct resemblence. In saying this, I think the C4 on the other hand is a very good looking car.

The particle filter issue is controversial to me. Why? Because manufacturers state that they support Bio-Diesel, but having a particle filter stops you from using the fuel due to the “catalytic” converter dying due to the chemical reaction while catalysing the unburnt/polutive gas.

I agree, the C3 looks plain, but what other car looks like it? When you see a Corolla, it could be a Tiida, it could be an Accent. When you see a C3 or a C4, you know it’s something else. That makes it appealing to me.

Regulars here probably know I’m a bit of a French car lover. And although I will always love the handling and the quirks, I am open minded about all other manufacturers.

Either way, the French know how to make engines. Renault is a king when it comes to shoe horning a 3L V6 into a car the size of a pack of smokes. Citroen knows how to make a nice luxury car that handles and rides well…. look at the C6. I’d take the turbo diesel C6 over any BMW, and I like BMW.

Getting back to the C3. Well done Citroen, I say. It’s a chicks car, but I think they are brilliant for the engineering.

Cheers
Steve

If not then please stay away..

As for behind the times, for curiosities sake I was looking up info on BMW’s etc and they really are a rip off for what you get. Say comparing a 330i to a Lexus IS350 (or even 250) you dont get things like rear side airbags, driver AND passenger knee airbags (dont get any knee airbags in fact), other features like VDIM stability control which is managed a different way to conventionals ones and als prity sure they dont have things like radar cruise control which has a safety feature where if it senses your about to crash and it cannot be avoided it braces you by tightening your seatbelt etc. And you miss out on all that yet the Beemer is still a fair bit more expensive.

So, if you applied the same principles to other cars:
* you wouldn’t buy a Ford, GM, Chrysler because of the attrocities inflicted by the USA
* you wouldn’t touch a German car because of what the Nazis did
* Jap cars are off limits for what they did to our POW’s in WWII
* The Italians were on the side of the Japs and the Germans, so they’re out too!

So I hope you enjoy buying your non-quirky Korean or Chinese car when you next shop for a vehicle.

So to me it’s tanatamount to treason to do anything which supports France, including buying French cars when there are others available that are better and less quirky.

It appears that most of the diesel BMWs do have filters, but Mercedes have only just introduced it in their new S Class.

VW is the other manufacturer that has been behind the times, and are now introducing the filters across the range as model revisions occur.

My only issue though is with those manufacturers that still don’t have particulate filters with their diesels. Curiously, all the French cars, and most of the Japanese diesels have them, but the “premium marquees” such as BMW and Mercedes have only just started to include them in their top end models.

As for Diesel, as someone said it translates into less money saved… and Im sure emissions wise it wouldnt be near the Prius. As for overall better for environment, youd be forgiven for saying the C4 has it, less fuel consumption means less fuel produced for the car ie less energy cost and using Diesel its less refined so again less energy cost to produce the fuel.

Despite this, hybrids are the way of the future… so fair enough Diesel, a technology which has been around for a while can finally catch up… but given the same time hybrids will be alot better.

My simple rule for a modern turbo diesel isn’t about the economy (to me, that’s a bonus), the higher price is validated by the larger amount of torque with a small engine and a turbo charger from just off idle RPM’s.

I am a low end grunt fiend.