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	<title>Comments on: Point-To-Point Speed Camera Makes First Mistake</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4052/point-to-point-speed-camera-makes-first-mistake/#comment-202718</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 11:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

What if you hit the point to point camera say doing 110kms in a 100kn zone and then realize the error of your way and slow through the distance accordingly.  Will you be find for the original breach? Paul</description>
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<p>What if you hit the point to point camera say doing 110kms in a 100kn zone and then realize the error of your way and slow through the distance accordingly.  Will you be find for the original breach? Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4052/point-to-point-speed-camera-makes-first-mistake/#comment-181519</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The speed limit is 110 kph...why do you set your cruise at 115 kph....contributing to Gov revenue by this means is voluntary....some people just dont get it....your probly a tailgater too....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The speed limit is 110 kph&#8230;why do you set your cruise at 115 kph&#8230;.contributing to Gov revenue by this means is voluntary&#8230;.some people just dont get it&#8230;.your probly a tailgater too&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4052/point-to-point-speed-camera-makes-first-mistake/#comment-181487</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As has been said, what a load os bs from the cops.

If it was a &quot;human error&quot; and a mix up between 2 photos of different vehicles, why the need to go and verify the speed limiter?
Just check the photos.

What this tells me is that if you didn&#039;t have a speed limiter, you would be stuffed.
There would be no admission.

Probably the equipment did screw it up and thats being swept under the carpet so there isn&#039;t a flood of challeges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has been said, what a load os bs from the cops.</p>
<p>If it was a &#8220;human error&#8221; and a mix up between 2 photos of different vehicles, why the need to go and verify the speed limiter?<br />
Just check the photos.</p>
<p>What this tells me is that if you didn&#8217;t have a speed limiter, you would be stuffed.<br />
There would be no admission.</p>
<p>Probably the equipment did screw it up and thats being swept under the carpet so there isn&#8217;t a flood of challeges.</p>
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		<title>By: liveone</title>
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		<dc:creator>liveone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The time is about to come when we must all , i mean all gather in every major city and protest for our freedom .. Mark my words We will be like cattle with a number ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time is about to come when we must all , i mean all gather in every major city and protest for our freedom .. Mark my words We will be like cattle with a number ..</p>
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		<title>By: h0tfuzz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4052/point-to-point-speed-camera-makes-first-mistake/#comment-117902</link>
		<dc:creator>h0tfuzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of bullshit from the cops. Human error my ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of bullshit from the cops. Human error my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4052/point-to-point-speed-camera-makes-first-mistake/#comment-86109</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Matt above, I too travel the sections of the Hume that have been fitted with these cameras, and have been over the last 30 years twice a day 5 days a week. What have I noticed since they have been installed. Firstly I no longer see any driver passing me doing 130Km and much more like they used to years ago. Secondly, and this pisses me off as I use a cruise control, the number of people who hit the brakes and slow to 90km at the cameras, and then go back to 110km again  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Matt above, I too travel the sections of the Hume that have been fitted with these cameras, and have been over the last 30 years twice a day 5 days a week. What have I noticed since they have been installed. Firstly I no longer see any driver passing me doing 130Km and much more like they used to years ago. Secondly, and this pisses me off as I use a cruise control, the number of people who hit the brakes and slow to 90km at the cameras, and then go back to 110km again  <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: e46 m3</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4052/point-to-point-speed-camera-makes-first-mistake/#comment-40133</link>
		<dc:creator>e46 m3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why must we continue to bend over and take this.  i wonder what the final straw will be, when australians finaly say together enough is enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why must we continue to bend over and take this.  i wonder what the final straw will be, when australians finaly say together enough is enough.</p>
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		<title>By: andre</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/4052/point-to-point-speed-camera-makes-first-mistake/#comment-20577</link>
		<dc:creator>andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speed cameras - I hate the things as much as I hate speeding Camiras- but in relation to the last point; I think marked speed cameras serve as a great reminder and, really, if you get caught speeding by one (that&#039;s as clearly marked as the NSW cams) then you deserve the ticket as you are not paying attention.  Why not be reasonable and send warning letters for a few kays over- to me it&#039;s absurd that when you set cruise on 100 (you have the intention to do the limit) but due to a slight incline the cruise cranks it up a bit and you get done for doing 106- wipe off 5? I&#039;d rather wipe out 5- oh and regarding those hoon laws, fair enough but then why not confiscate cars of drunk drivers... Oh, no another headline; hoon car confiscated, caught doing 155kmh in a 100 zone at 336am on Midlofnowere Hwy- well I&#039;d rather you take drunks of the road that mix in peak hour traffic but you probably wouldn&#039;t have a car park big enough thoug with a wipe off 1km/h (or even 0.1kmh) campaign we might pay for it in no time- Greetings from Victoria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speed cameras &#8211; I hate the things as much as I hate speeding Camiras- but in relation to the last point; I think marked speed cameras serve as a great reminder and, really, if you get caught speeding by one (that&#8217;s as clearly marked as the NSW cams) then you deserve the ticket as you are not paying attention.  Why not be reasonable and send warning letters for a few kays over- to me it&#8217;s absurd that when you set cruise on 100 (you have the intention to do the limit) but due to a slight incline the cruise cranks it up a bit and you get done for doing 106- wipe off 5? I&#8217;d rather wipe out 5- oh and regarding those hoon laws, fair enough but then why not confiscate cars of drunk drivers&#8230; Oh, no another headline; hoon car confiscated, caught doing 155kmh in a 100 zone at 336am on Midlofnowere Hwy- well I&#8217;d rather you take drunks of the road that mix in peak hour traffic but you probably wouldn&#8217;t have a car park big enough thoug with a wipe off 1km/h (or even 0.1kmh) campaign we might pay for it in no time- Greetings from Victoria</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^

Statistics can be manipulated easily for both sides. I personally find it hard to believe making speed cameras visible reduces crashes, if anything the opposite as in those areas people focus on their speedos more rather then the road and brake harshly if they are speeding. 

Furthermore I think having them unmarked would have more of an effect, if you didnt know where speed cameras where, would you speed? NO WAY. You wouldnt becaue you dont know if the road your on has one or not. When they are marked on the other hand you speed on 99% of our roads and go the limit when you see that 1% that has a camera (which not only is marked so its obvious if you are paying attention but ALSO GPSs these days tell you when you are approaching them!)

And Im not saying I want them to be umarked, very much the opposite... but I think making them marked is more for revenue raising while at the same time not outraing the public (who suprise suprise also keep the govt in power... so its in their best interest to get revneue while not pissing them off with unmarked cameras which make them slow down or get caught).</description>
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<p>Statistics can be manipulated easily for both sides. I personally find it hard to believe making speed cameras visible reduces crashes, if anything the opposite as in those areas people focus on their speedos more rather then the road and brake harshly if they are speeding. </p>
<p>Furthermore I think having them unmarked would have more of an effect, if you didnt know where speed cameras where, would you speed? NO WAY. You wouldnt becaue you dont know if the road your on has one or not. When they are marked on the other hand you speed on 99% of our roads and go the limit when you see that 1% that has a camera (which not only is marked so its obvious if you are paying attention but ALSO GPSs these days tell you when you are approaching them!)</p>
<p>And Im not saying I want them to be umarked, very much the opposite&#8230; but I think making them marked is more for revenue raising while at the same time not outraing the public (who suprise suprise also keep the govt in power&#8230; so its in their best interest to get revneue while not pissing them off with unmarked cameras which make them slow down or get caught).</p>
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		<title>By: MisterTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MisterTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to Ben&#039;s final paragraph, tere was a major outcry in the UK some years ago with the public and motoring groups accusing the Police of revenue raising with speed cameras.  Especially when the police were allowed to keep a portion of the money collected.  They also found that the cameras were not slowing down the traffic as you only know you have been speeding after the fact.  Now all speed cameras are visible, panted bright yellow and roadmaps now have te locations of the cameras printed on them.  There has been a significant reduction in speed related accidents.  They also put police cars on freeway bridges which is very effective, much more effective than plod hiding behind a bush!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to Ben&#8217;s final paragraph, tere was a major outcry in the UK some years ago with the public and motoring groups accusing the Police of revenue raising with speed cameras.  Especially when the police were allowed to keep a portion of the money collected.  They also found that the cameras were not slowing down the traffic as you only know you have been speeding after the fact.  Now all speed cameras are visible, panted bright yellow and roadmaps now have te locations of the cameras printed on them.  There has been a significant reduction in speed related accidents.  They also put police cars on freeway bridges which is very effective, much more effective than plod hiding behind a bush!</p>
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