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	<title>Comments on: Holden Commodore MY10 Review</title>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/40435/holden-commodore-my10-first-steer/#comment-234675</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 11:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those torque figures on the 5.4/ZF combination are nothing short of amazing.  And the final drive ratio!  120@1500 revs!

Cars like these are joy on Australian open roads...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those torque figures on the 5.4/ZF combination are nothing short of amazing.  And the final drive ratio!  120@1500 revs!</p>
<p>Cars like these are joy on Australian open roads&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/40435/holden-commodore-my10-first-steer/#comment-234673</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmm, harsh ride, asthmatic 4cyl engine, yummy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm, harsh ride, asthmatic 4cyl engine, yummy!</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/40435/holden-commodore-my10-first-steer/#comment-190390</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pity it still looks like it was designed by visually impaired apprentice. I am happy that the engine is supposedly improved. I drove the entire sedan range in 2008 including Statesman…didn’t buy as the V6 engines were so coarse sounding and rode like billy-carts. Whilst test driving the Statesman the salesman said “quiet isn’t it” I said no, sounds like a motor mower and the ride is too firm. I do not care what the badge on the car says, unlike many here. The worst car I have driven recently (maybe ever) was the current Mondeo diesel the Passat CC diesel not much better, followed by the GM products. What did I buy, shock and horror a Hyundai Grandeur,new car number 37 and it is very good indeed. I agree with the Japanese diesels are for trucks and buses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pity it still looks like it was designed by visually impaired apprentice. I am happy that the engine is supposedly improved. I drove the entire sedan range in 2008 including Statesman…didn’t buy as the V6 engines were so coarse sounding and rode like billy-carts. Whilst test driving the Statesman the salesman said “quiet isn’t it” I said no, sounds like a motor mower and the ride is too firm. I do not care what the badge on the car says, unlike many here. The worst car I have driven recently (maybe ever) was the current Mondeo diesel the Passat CC diesel not much better, followed by the GM products. What did I buy, shock and horror a Hyundai Grandeur,new car number 37 and it is very good indeed. I agree with the Japanese diesels are for trucks and buses.</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look guys the fact is holden and ford will never be as good looking and premium as german cars and never as reliable and well performing as japanese cars there not realy that great but cause im ausie i have to take a side and that is holden because the commodore is still out selling the falcon with a 5 year old car and in 20 years commodore will still be here and falcon probably wont because thie fg is the last ausie built falcon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look guys the fact is holden and ford will never be as good looking and premium as german cars and never as reliable and well performing as japanese cars there not realy that great but cause im ausie i have to take a side and that is holden because the commodore is still out selling the falcon with a 5 year old car and in 20 years commodore will still be here and falcon probably wont because thie fg is the last ausie built falcon.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/40435/holden-commodore-my10-first-steer/#comment-160763</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps: i genuinely own a 2006 BF 4.0L 6 speed auto and a wagon XT 4 speed auto 4.0L and they all crap all over every single V6 commodore so far ever produced including some older V8s all the way up to the very 1st 220kW GENIII! and its no joke its a fact.

this is great the 4.0L I6 really is! , in stock form!

especially with 6 speed ZF, even smoother and 1 tenth of a second quicker than 4 speeder!

and not to mention Fairmont Ghia 5.4L auto 6 speed ZF which i use for business functions!

cheapest luxury thing ever! , i got mine for less than 25 grand! comparing this to this 3.0L Di, makes a 3.0L Di look like 1/4 of a car plus worst value for $$$.


cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps: i genuinely own a 2006 BF 4.0L 6 speed auto and a wagon XT 4 speed auto 4.0L and they all crap all over every single V6 commodore so far ever produced including some older V8s all the way up to the very 1st 220kW GENIII! and its no joke its a fact.</p>
<p>this is great the 4.0L I6 really is! , in stock form!</p>
<p>especially with 6 speed ZF, even smoother and 1 tenth of a second quicker than 4 speeder!</p>
<p>and not to mention Fairmont Ghia 5.4L auto 6 speed ZF which i use for business functions!</p>
<p>cheapest luxury thing ever! , i got mine for less than 25 grand! comparing this to this 3.0L Di, makes a 3.0L Di look like 1/4 of a car plus worst value for $$$.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/40435/holden-commodore-my10-first-steer/#comment-160761</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford Falcon “FAIRMONT GHIA” BF Series II 2006-2007 5.4Litre 230kW/500Nm hooked up to a 6SPEED ZF is the cheapest luxury car with the best ever engineered 5.4Litre SOHC VCT 3V eight cylinder engine, tuned for reliability, long live and quietness.

It has massive 462Nm of torque from just 1500rpm and at 2000rpm it makes almost 98% of peak 500Nm of torque.

All on RON91 petrol.

These cars are cheap now days and can be bought for less than thirty grad! the best thing for the money, specially the models with beige leather in seduce red with a V8 badge on the side.

They are the best cars on EARTH for cash and the V8 , may be only 230kW, but it can crack 0-100km/h in under 6.5s and with moon reaching gear ratios purrrrr at 120km/h at only 1500rpm in 6th along side its tall 2.53 final drive ratio.

That is a car you should all be looking at and chasing to buy before they totally disappear.

a V8, get a V8, Aussie engineered car with the best bulletproof V8 Barra230/Triton engine…….. which was discontinued due to its never failing nature and very little spare parts being sold for it because it never stops.

ps: when you run this now days cheap sucker 5.4L 3V V8 engine on RON98 petrol you will get the NEVER MARKETED 246kW of power at even lower RPM than 5350rpm and massive 540Nm of torque from just 2000rpm.

And this is no joke! , get this cheapo now, they are the best luxury cars for cash!

i see idiots buying new 3.0L Di crap for like $30000 plus , and while these luxury V8s are now less than 25 grand! plus leather!!!!!!! lmao
thanks for reading</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford Falcon “FAIRMONT GHIA” BF Series II 2006-2007 5.4Litre 230kW/500Nm hooked up to a 6SPEED ZF is the cheapest luxury car with the best ever engineered 5.4Litre SOHC VCT 3V eight cylinder engine, tuned for reliability, long live and quietness.</p>
<p>It has massive 462Nm of torque from just 1500rpm and at 2000rpm it makes almost 98% of peak 500Nm of torque.</p>
<p>All on RON91 petrol.</p>
<p>These cars are cheap now days and can be bought for less than thirty grad! the best thing for the money, specially the models with beige leather in seduce red with a V8 badge on the side.</p>
<p>They are the best cars on EARTH for cash and the V8 , may be only 230kW, but it can crack 0-100km/h in under 6.5s and with moon reaching gear ratios purrrrr at 120km/h at only 1500rpm in 6th along side its tall 2.53 final drive ratio.</p>
<p>That is a car you should all be looking at and chasing to buy before they totally disappear.</p>
<p>a V8, get a V8, Aussie engineered car with the best bulletproof V8 Barra230/Triton engine…….. which was discontinued due to its never failing nature and very little spare parts being sold for it because it never stops.</p>
<p>ps: when you run this now days cheap sucker 5.4L 3V V8 engine on RON98 petrol you will get the NEVER MARKETED 246kW of power at even lower RPM than 5350rpm and massive 540Nm of torque from just 2000rpm.</p>
<p>And this is no joke! , get this cheapo now, they are the best luxury cars for cash!</p>
<p>i see idiots buying new 3.0L Di crap for like $30000 plus , and while these luxury V8s are now less than 25 grand! plus leather!!!!!!! lmao<br />
thanks for reading</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/40435/holden-commodore-my10-first-steer/#comment-159123</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you are quite right.  I never had any personal experience with the 149/179, but read that the 179 X2 had a distinctive note.

Then there was the X2 in 179 and 186, and the 186S, and the 161S/173S and 2250 &#039;138&#039; in the LC/LJ... and the immortal XU1 motors...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are quite right.  I never had any personal experience with the 149/179, but read that the 179 X2 had a distinctive note.</p>
<p>Then there was the X2 in 179 and 186, and the 186S, and the 161S/173S and 2250 &#8217;138&#8242; in the LC/LJ&#8230; and the immortal XU1 motors&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Narfis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Narfis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think its as cut and dry as you make it out to be mate. 
it really depends on the condition of the car. 

but i do admit, the commodre does have a tougher time of it convincing dealers that its worth its price. 

I think also that commodores have a reputation of being a &quot;thrash it&quot; car. ppl know that ppl who drive commodores usually throw the car around a fair bit on the roads. Thus its more likely to decrease in value. 
I think its an image issue on the part of buyers and dealers/purchasers rather than the fact that &quot;commodores just loose their value quicker&quot;-which simply is untrue. 
cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think its as cut and dry as you make it out to be mate.<br />
it really depends on the condition of the car. </p>
<p>but i do admit, the commodre does have a tougher time of it convincing dealers that its worth its price. </p>
<p>I think also that commodores have a reputation of being a &#8220;thrash it&#8221; car. ppl know that ppl who drive commodores usually throw the car around a fair bit on the roads. Thus its more likely to decrease in value.<br />
I think its an image issue on the part of buyers and dealers/purchasers rather than the fact that &#8220;commodores just loose their value quicker&#8221;-which simply is untrue.<br />
cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/40435/holden-commodore-my10-first-steer/#comment-158136</link>
		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They also added airbags and they have to recoup the cost of all the SIDI R&amp;D coss somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also added airbags and they have to recoup the cost of all the SIDI R&amp;D coss somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheels is the most highly regarded Automotive publication in australia. I dont just say this but the panel from World Car of the Year also only select Australian judges from Wheels. If you dont like them, dont force your beliefs on everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheels is the most highly regarded Automotive publication in australia. I dont just say this but the panel from World Car of the Year also only select Australian judges from Wheels. If you dont like them, dont force your beliefs on everyone else.</p>
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