I’ve been tempted by the 5-series before, but now I’m holding out for BMW to release a limited edition 530i with a spoiler, stickers, and some bright green paint. I think it will help recall the spirit of earlier classic BMWs.
Maybe they could call it the BMW GS
Well this BMW 3litre is the price of two FPV GS 5.4l V8s and they both use the same ZF 6 speed transmission. So OMG if your looking for a BMW GS, you could get a different one for half the price.
RR Vogue, it’s cheaper again to just hail a taxi if you’re after an authentic Ford Falcon experience. What’s your point?
I agree 100% with Pride of the Fleet.
The ZF 6 speed gearbox on the BA/BF eliminates the authentic ‘taxi gearbox whine’ that you often reminisce.
I would recommend EF/AU/ pre-ZF BA.
For evem more authentic experience, you could try the 6 seater version which has steering wheel column mounted transmission.
thats the best laugh I’ve had today.
lucky the rating system is gone or you’d have many tears fron the ford fan boys
I could also get two big macs for the price of one salad sandwich and they probably use the same lettuce.
What a beautiful car, I never realised how expensive the 530i had got though, I always thought it was a $80,000 – $90,000 car. thats inflation for you I guess.
Wow, $117,000 BEFORE options and on road costs for just the 530i version. The X5 seems a lot more better value.
Very Thirsty 3.0 litre engine in a light car.
Compare it to the Ford’s Inline 4.0 or Holden’s 3.6, which both deliver similar or more power for a much better economy.
Still a very nice car that I would consider if I was in the market.
The fuel cons. quoted was wrong. That is the \’City\’ figure. Combined is 9.8L/100kms.
This engine outputs 200kW and, more importantly, 315Nm @ 2750rpm. All from 3.0L of displacement. Falcon and Commodore need at least half a litre more displacement to match those figures.
I agree the fuel consumption isn\’t fantastic and that\’s why this car is not advertised under the \’BMW Efficient Dynamics\’ banner. But all things considered, it\’s reasonable for what the engine is capable of.
They did quote the combined figure and even that is a bit over the top.
Yeh, my quote was made when they had fuel economy combined in the 13′s, so right now, I don’t really mind the economy, it’s quite good for the performance figures.
Actually ZF6Gang, falcon easily outdoes those figures as the inline 6 is good for close to 210kW and almost 420nm just by running on premium. Not bad for a non direct injected, bushwacker true-blue dinky-die (insert as many degrading ocker yobbo catchphrases as you like here) 100% aussie engine. Ohh and 9.9L/100kms running cheap ass 91RON! Ohh but no BMW badge on that engine, so obviously total crap….
Quite the opposite, Vance. I’m not a BMW fanboy like you might mistakenly think I am.
Those are impressive figures from ‘Barra’ that began as a ‘humble’ 180kw if memory serves me correct. I’ve always liked that engine better than Holden’s Alloytec for its torquey nature.
This engine in its latest iteration is undoubtedly a world class engine, and will be missed when the new four cylinder, force fed engines come to be use in Falcons.
Howie-R31, the E60 5-Series was first launched more than 5 years ago.. so no surprise if it receives a 4 star ancap. We didn’t know when it was tested, or whether the car has received additional safety equipment since then. If they re tested it, it might well be a 5 star car. Saying that, the new F10 is just around the corner.. why bother?
I’m a little suprised that a car this good still recieves a 4 star ancap rating. Thought it would’ve been 5-star for sure.
I kinda find it funny that cheap Aussie cars have higher safety ratings, more power and use less fuel than these $120,000 German cars, its a funny world we live in nowadays.
Yeah, but these “cheap Aussie cars” don’t drive nearly as well, are not built as well, don’t look as good and the German cars don’t fall to pieces after a couple of years.
I’d still rather the 5-series over some Australian built rubbish.
I love these statements tossed around (pardon the pun) as fact. Ive extensively driven new Falcons and I think they are are some of the best drives under $80,000 out there. Heaven forbid someone make a comparison between an Australian and German car on this site though.
Hmmm and I cant think of one German car Ive owned which would have lasted as well as a Falcon or Commodore, admittedly I havnt owned a BMW for 3 years now so things may have changed. Its probably why the middle eastern police forces replaced their BMW 5 series and Merc E classes with Chevrolet Luminas and Caprices (Holden Commodore and Statesman) because of the Holdens better reliability and durability.
But then again they dont have the pretty badge which a lot of tossers love. I would love to own (and afford) another BMW, but to pass off the incredibly good Australian cars as rubbish kinda confirms to me that you really dont know what your talking about. Now get back to your homework!
Thanks for your essay, but it doesn’t mean much. Some facts for you:
- Australian rep mobiles priced at $80K like FPVs and HSVs still can’t match imported cars like the Honda Accord Euro for fit, finish, and quality
- Australian rep mobiles lag behind imported cars in terms of features
- Considering the tax payer funding received these rep mobiles should be $10K cheaper
- If performance is taken out of the equation, there is no reason to buy a rep mobile, dozens of cars exceed them in every other facet
Also, which overpriced FWD Peugoet do you own?
A Peugoet 308 Touring Diesel, I love it, even though it does look like a bit of a clown car…
In your opinion
The 530i is almost six years old. Every model in next year’s 5 series will be under the Efficient Dynamics banner. We’ll see how our 100% American owned aussie cars fare then.
BTW you seem to forget 10% tariffs, 25% luxury car taxes, and the 100% American owned brands Holden and Ford have received handouts for years and still can’t make a profit.
See, this guy knows what he’s talking about.
Saying that a vehicle manufacturer makes a lot of profit on their cars, seems to suggest they may be priced above what you are actually getting. I never knew why I thought BMWs were so expensive, but now I know where all that money from the high price goes – to the profit margin.
Sorry, I can’t take a Peugoet driver’s comments seriously.
I agree, I’m surprised he even admitted to owning a Peugeot. The rental car company I worked for in the UK dumped Peugeot after only three months because so many of them were biting the dust.
Nice job BMW on such a beautiful car, maybe Ford and Holden could learn a trick or two from you.
How can my 96kw TDCi Mondeo produce 320Nm of torque V BMW 200Kw @ 315Nm I thought its KW & Capacity = Torque!
http://www.epi-eng.com/piston_engine_technology/power_and_torque.htm. Try this link, Torque and poweri are not that simple
Hmm, I don’t know, maybe because IT’S A DIESEL
Lot of money for only 4 stars unlike the 5 stars in a Falcon or new Commodore and use more petrol, let alone the service costs. seems kinda pointless
Believe it or not, when people who can afford these luxury cars aren’t too worried about petrol and servicing…
Nor would they bother considering an Australian built product.
A very good car but overpriced.
True if they could price it resaonably without adding the extra 25 000 for the BMW badge then many more people would buy it. Ohh but that would clash with their high class brand image. BMW’s are realiable and all that, but they are living off an old earned reputation, the rest of the world has caught up, including some of us locals.
THe extra $25000 is taxes not the badge. its only by adding on high taxes to the imports the the old facoon and commy can look like value while each one looses thousands of dollars on each sale.
the new website design sux
Nadine, get a decent camera next time,these were shockers,look like mobile phone ones.
4 stars four everything ………mmmmmm is it really that good ? You criticised nothing………….
Sorry ,I love my BMWs but even I can find fault in them.
$3495 for a ‘kin sunroof!!! Ouch. That’s $1k for it to be fitted at the body shop and $2,495 profit then…
BMW 530i is no slouch when it comes to laying down some power.
The Realist and Martin
If you two,who are possibly the same person,believe the marketing spin regarding “efficient dynamics” then it is possible if you were eskimos,BMW would be selling you ice.
No I’m not Martin.
But he seems to know what he’s talking about.
…and I am not The Realist.
So why is it when two people support the likes of BMW, that it is automatically assumed that they are the same person? Should I just assume that all the people that post dribble about Ford being better (apparently) are the same person too?
Most of these people live in their small world and think the Australian automotive industry is the pinnacle of innovation and tenology. And they also believe the Aussie car industry makes money…
why do bmw’s have to be soo uglyy
To clarify the four star safety rating, ANCAP has based it on the EuroNCAP results for the 5 Series in 2004. They update the 5 Series in 2007 and 2008 NCAP testing in America saw the 5 series fair better than it did in 2004 Euro testing. Perhaps ANCAP should retest the vehicle as I’m sure it will now gain a 5 star rating.
Incidentally, the BMW 530i in the UK sells for 34750 pounds, which at the current exchange rate is about 70,000 dollars AUS, and the UK has the one of highest car prices in the EU.
Not surprising since we aussies get nailed hard when it comes to car prices and standard features in general.
Zis car competes with the Honda Accord Euro in the US and Europe ~
There’s nothing wrong with preferring either a BMW over a Falcon or a Bentley…. I’m always surprised as to why people here get so hung up on this… Ultimately with any product you decide as to whether you can afford and want to buy it.
You can always find better value; whether you are talking cars, fridges, computers, houses etc. but when price doesn’t matter to you then you simply buy what takes YOUR fancy.
The Falcon is a fine car, so is the BMW 530i. Why would one need to justify one’s purchase decision to anyone as it seems so many people here are suggesting. Just perplexes me.
You are exactly right, but I am not going to sit idly by while some people who have too much respect for Ford, of all manufacturers, try to make out that their cheap and nasty “Falcon” is better then a 530i. That is complete and utter crap.
Correct Martin… but they will never know that as they won’t afford one, hence….. ignorance is bliss….. Call it snobbery or what you will, but I also prefer certain suburbs to others. Doesn’t mean they are better to anyone else but myself… and if you prefer a Falcon to a BMW just count yourself lucky and let the savings begin..
Good point, when you put it that way, it does make a little more sense.
Anyone who buys this over an Audi S4 is a complete idiot
Good point, but equally you could save 10 grand over and above the Audi S4 and get a 335i, not quite as powerful, not quite as fast, but still enjoyable. I’d still get the Audi though. Vorsprung Durch technik!
Or, perhaps “Nachteil durch Preis” for the BMW….. they are both great Bavarians, just I find they serve a different purpose; though can’t get it why one would refer to someone buying one over the other as an idiot. Most amusing and entertaining….
And if you find yourself arguing with an idiot he or she is probably doing the same thing….
“A combination of good genes and automotive excellence make the BMW 530i a very tidy package; easy to enjoy and hard to fault.” I can only agree more.