This is why I like to combine great tweeters, woofer, and even a subwoofer in back….

For you all who are still going to complain about the 88,000 mile difference in the H2 and Prius comparison, just look at another known gas-guzzler. The Dodge Viper. It was tested with the Auto-Industry estimated life cycle of 118,000 miles. Only a 9,000 mile difference.

It’s energy cost per mile? $2.17. Far lower than the $3.25 of the Prius.

Yes, this is still a difference, but the report uses Auto-Industry life span estimates for cars.

No where in the CNW report are the H2s tested at 300,000 miles. Go ahead and d/l the PDF from thier website.

Just wanted to clear up some mis-information being spread by some of the posters here. H2s are NOT tested at 300,000 miles, but at 197,000.

Get your facts straight people.

The study assumes the Prius only lasts for 100,000 miles before it is destroyed.

However, there are confirmed reports of Prius taxis that have clocked up more than 250,000 miles.

As of 2007 the Prius has been out for 10 years and Toyota has never replaced a battery except for one case in which an electrician accidentally drilled into the battery while trying to install a stereo.

The myth is popular because it is human instinct to want to believe something that goes against convention so that, when you tell it to your friends, you sound smart. It is called the appeal to rugged individualism.

GM approached Toyota a couple of years ago for a joint adventure to access Toyota’s technology and help reduce their own costs but the ‘BIG T’ refused on the matter. However, Toyota now sells some of it’s ‘PATENT TECHNOLOGY’ to Ford while suppling Nissan with one of thier aged designs to assist Nissan with it’s first hybrid example on the US market which is called the Ultima.

The thing is, some people ctritise Toyota and Honda for thier hybrid development but they don’t acknowledge the fact that GM and Ford are trying also to muscle in on the boom. The differance is, Toyota and Honda have been successful whereas the America duo haven’t.

I thought you meant why bother with a Prius/Hybrid if you can get the same enomony from an Echo.

The entire report has too many variables. It tries to put a footprint on running/Production costs. But then takes into account workers travelling to the plant. To me, these are items that our well outside the scope of the vehicles design.

Maybe CNW Marketing Research should consider the carbon created in producing such a useless report

I would also like to thank you for your professional discussion Paul.

http://www.hybridcars.com/environment-stories/dust-to-dust-energy-costs.html

And here is a statement backing up our theory from the president of CNW (the people who published these manipulated stats):

“If you can drive the Prius 200,000 miles, and do the same levels of costs and repairs, the cost per mile obviously comes down dramatically.”

There you have it! Sad part is in the U.S this thing supposedly got alot of coverage and stupid journalists portrayed it as the Prius was a bad car energy wise when in fact its quite obvious the stats are one sided to make it look that way.

Which was the site that said it was per mile? Because I’m finding most sites seem inconclusive on this – being either average/accumulative.

At least we can agree that the data whether accurate or not, is certainly immoral.

Honestly jbot, if you can’t keep civil in your replies, don’t bother. Paul is being more then proper in his responses and yours seem to be the rambling of a rude and drunken teenager.