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	<title>Comments on: 2010 Porsche 911 Turbo facelift revealed</title>
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		<title>By: Sunset Strip 9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunset Strip 9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>askod</description>
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		<title>By: Lukaas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lukaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S_GO

Agreed that &quot;newer&quot; models will always undergo revision, either upper body, under body, chassis, power train, etc.

Porsche obviously, the trademark exterior styling hardly changes, but the under body might go drastic changes to make it &quot;lighter&quot;. Which usually means reduction of &quot;brackets&quot; judged unneccessary. Or reduction of thickness of the steel itself, maybe using higher grade steel but reducing thickness by 0.7mm which is usual case.
Then you revise the engine layout, increase the bore by a couple of mm in diameter, reduce the lenght of the piston by 5mm, reduce height of engine top by 50mm... and THEY ALL lead to a lower G force, higher and more efficient power surge etc....

But these changes you can ONLY get away with exotic cars... as they are not mass produced, assembly isnt &quot;setup&quot; that it is hard to re-configure... exotic cars are almost entirely manufactured with &quot;moving&quot; stations as opposed to fixed stations that mass produced vehicles go through.... 

SO YES, technically it &quot;undergoes&quot; changes, drastic changes but exterior wise its the same. Butto the customer, the only thing they really see is &quot;increase power&quot; reduced weight&quot;, improved dymanics etc... but the point is.... if you purchased a Porsche to last you a lifetime because you are passionate about them... I dont think it warrants a new purchase... just keep your current and enjoy... but if you are fortunate enough to afford an extra 200-250K... or maybe 80K-90K if you trade in your &quot;older&quot; one then... more power to you.</description>
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<p>Agreed that &#8220;newer&#8221; models will always undergo revision, either upper body, under body, chassis, power train, etc.</p>
<p>Porsche obviously, the trademark exterior styling hardly changes, but the under body might go drastic changes to make it &#8220;lighter&#8221;. Which usually means reduction of &#8220;brackets&#8221; judged unneccessary. Or reduction of thickness of the steel itself, maybe using higher grade steel but reducing thickness by 0.7mm which is usual case.<br />
Then you revise the engine layout, increase the bore by a couple of mm in diameter, reduce the lenght of the piston by 5mm, reduce height of engine top by 50mm&#8230; and THEY ALL lead to a lower G force, higher and more efficient power surge etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>But these changes you can ONLY get away with exotic cars&#8230; as they are not mass produced, assembly isnt &#8220;setup&#8221; that it is hard to re-configure&#8230; exotic cars are almost entirely manufactured with &#8220;moving&#8221; stations as opposed to fixed stations that mass produced vehicles go through&#8230;. </p>
<p>SO YES, technically it &#8220;undergoes&#8221; changes, drastic changes but exterior wise its the same. Butto the customer, the only thing they really see is &#8220;increase power&#8221; reduced weight&#8221;, improved dymanics etc&#8230; but the point is&#8230;. if you purchased a Porsche to last you a lifetime because you are passionate about them&#8230; I dont think it warrants a new purchase&#8230; just keep your current and enjoy&#8230; but if you are fortunate enough to afford an extra 200-250K&#8230; or maybe 80K-90K if you trade in your &#8220;older&#8221; one then&#8230; more power to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Juraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Juraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s still the definitive supercar, fast, fun, looks good enough yet reliable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s still the definitive supercar, fast, fun, looks good enough yet reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Bane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Bane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>0-100kph in 3.7s for manual, 3.4s for PDK - now with paddles as a no cost option.

Apparently the chassis is set up for &quot;more fun&quot; with torque vectoring 4WD.

...and it&#039;s cheap compared to a Ferrari or Lambo ;0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>0-100kph in 3.7s for manual, 3.4s for PDK &#8211; now with paddles as a no cost option.</p>
<p>Apparently the chassis is set up for &#8220;more fun&#8221; with torque vectoring 4WD.</p>
<p>&#8230;and it&#8217;s cheap compared to a Ferrari or Lambo ;0)</p>
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		<title>By: Baddass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baddass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SmokinR32, what we mean is, the divider in the middle of the air intake looks tacky: if it had been painted black it would look more mean.And seriously dumb question by the way: what does disagreeing with the styling of a Porsche air vent have to do with our interest in cars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SmokinR32, what we mean is, the divider in the middle of the air intake looks tacky: if it had been painted black it would look more mean.And seriously dumb question by the way: what does disagreeing with the styling of a Porsche air vent have to do with our interest in cars?</p>
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		<title>By: MatthewM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MatthewM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lukaas,

Is the porsche shape really patented or is that just a figure of speech? If it were, I would have thought that it had expired by now, given that the 911 came out in 1963.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lukaas,</p>
<p>Is the porsche shape really patented or is that just a figure of speech? If it were, I would have thought that it had expired by now, given that the 911 came out in 1963.</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didnt mean the placement, i meant the way they look. They shouldnt have the divider in the middle, it looks a bit tacky. Just my opinion. Never been a fan of Porsches &quot;evolutionary&quot; (20 year old) styling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didnt mean the placement, i meant the way they look. They shouldnt have the divider in the middle, it looks a bit tacky. Just my opinion. Never been a fan of Porsches &#8220;evolutionary&#8221; (20 year old) styling.</p>
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		<title>By: smokin'R32</title>
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		<dc:creator>smokin'R32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah an afterthought, considering this car was designed from the ground up to be rear engined, hence rear air intakes. Where else are they gonna put them, the roof? Do you guys even like cars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah an afterthought, considering this car was designed from the ground up to be rear engined, hence rear air intakes. Where else are they gonna put them, the roof? Do you guys even like cars?</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Badass your not alone. THey look like an after thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Badass your not alone. THey look like an after thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Baddass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baddass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who thinks the air intakes over the rear wheel look cheap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who thinks the air intakes over the rear wheel look cheap?</p>
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