Car Advice

2007 Toyota Tarago V6 Ultima Road Test

By Paul Maric |

It wasn’t that long ago that I reported on the face lifted Toyota Tarago. I drove around in the 4-cylinder GLI model and was constantly let down by the lack of buzz and power from the small motor when the car was loaded with people.

This time around, Toyota have crammed a V6 under the bonnet – the same one used in the Toyota Aurion – and turned this somewhat sedate people mover into a luxury cruiser with performance antics that took yours truly by total surprise!

I was handed the keys to the Ultima model – which sits at the top of the Tarago model range – and wasn’t sure what to expect. First impressions were pretty good. Upon opening the driver’s door, lashings of wood-grain and a bevy of leather jump out at you. This isn’t a people mover, it’s business class on your own private jet – masquerading as a people mover.

The second row features only two seats. The two seats accommodate entirely for two people and can be reclined to a flat 180-degrees and even have extendable leg rests and arm rests. The third row of seats – also leather clad – can be folded entirely into the floor. When lifted to their regular standing position, a deep and meaningful luggage area is available. The entire motion of the rear seats is controlled electronically – quelling the need for the strenuous use of one’s arms.

Another featured that had me quite chuffed was the automatic doors. At the press of a, either sliding door can be opened electronically – relegating the task of manual operation.

Start ‘er up and get prepared for some action. The combination of a 200+kW V6 engine, along with front wheel drive means that this Tarago grapples for grip when nailed and doesn’t have too many troubles disappointing unsuspecting punters from the traffic lights. The V6 Tarago is quick enough to dash from 0-100 in just over 7-seconds! That’s previously unheard of in a people mover.

2007 Toyota Tarago Ultima V6 Road Test 2007 Toyota Tarago Ultima V6 Road Test

Under the bonnet, Toyota has used the same 3.5-litre V6 engine as the Toyota Aurion, which produces 202kW and a spritely 340Nm of torque. Power is sent through a 6-speed automatic gearbox and sips through a claimed 10.3-litres/100km.

Priced from $54,690 for the GLI V6 model, the vehicle being tested – the Ultima – is worth $69,964.

Standard features in the Ultima include: Power steering; tilt/telescopic steering wheel adjustment; central locking; tri zone climate control; DVD satellite navigation; twin sun roof; front and rear parking sensors; cruise control; active Xenon headlights; automatic doors and seats; automatic headlights; power windows; heated front seats; electric front seats; CD player with 6-speakers; leather trim and 17” alloy wheels.

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Safety features include: ABS brakes with EBD and BA; Traction Control (TC); Vehicle Stability Control (VSC); driver and front passenger SRS airbags; front seat side airbags; second row and third row side curtain airbags; pre-tensioning seat belts and engine immobiliser.

With an absolute abundance of features and gadgets to keep anyone happy, the new V6 Toyota Tarago is surprisingly enjoyable to drive and to be carted around in. The new V6 motor resolves the lack of power with people on board, whilst also consuming little fuel.

At just over $69,000, it’s a fair bit of money to ask. But, when you consider that you can carry around all of the kids, plus their luggage, in one car – in total luxury may I add – the cost evens out. The Toyota Tarago Ultima is literally in a class of its own. There are no other people movers in this price range that offer such an array of features, along with such a powerful and proven engine.

2007 Toyota Tarago V6 Ultima Road Test

If you’re in the market for a new people-hauler, check out the new Tarago V6 range. If nothing else, playing with the electric doors should provide enough joy for most!

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- by Paul Maric


 
  • Paul

    Lol I was interested actually in this because as you would have discovered, I find it quite funny that this people mover for example could easily smoke a VE Commodore at the lights! But at $70k that is a total rip off, granted its high luxury but Im sure you could fit out a few 4WDs in the market to that spec and be alittle cheaper (And maybe cheaper with Diesel and be able to lug around its cargo… people…. easier with higher torque)?

  • Myke

    I dont know whether this would ‘smoke’ a VE at the lights, it does weight more and being a people mover it would normally have a full load onboard.

    Even the base model at $50K is a giant rip-off, yet people buy them in the hundreds, while the Mitsubishi Grandis sits quietly in the corner of the showroom.

  • Kenny

    Paul is right, You can buy a top of the range Pajero Exceed costs about $65,000.00, a top of the range Land cruiser Prado costs about 70,000.00, Both these are diesel & for this price you get a good 4 wheel drive.

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    Hmm, I think it looks a little, well, people moverish, I can believe the price tag, but mind you, look at the interior, dual sunroofs, the centre console is absolutely beautiful. This is a sure way to get the whole family around in pure luxury

  • Bavarian Missile /

    Give me a cruiser any day. This thing is ugly and screams ,HOME BODIES CAR !

  • Steve

    I think Toyota are just riding this vehicle on the halo effect from their badge.

    What is in the car that makes it worth that price? You can’t say it’s the R&D. I mean, it’s a tried and tested platform. It’s not a first, it’s not innovative. All they’ve done is spruce up the interior and make a soccer mum taxi look and go a bit better.

    Still, people will buy it. They will look at 4WD’s and this and choose this because the 4WD is overkill.

    Saying that, I’m a little shocked you guys are suggesting and comparing this car to a 4WD. They aren’t as safe, heavier, cost more to run, are generally built for a purpose, so on-road ability is compromised… etc.

    Cheers
    Steve

  • 280zx

    Butt ugly people mover ! Yeah you are right Alborz nice interior but im not sure how long that will last with 12 kids, a box of textas, and a drive through Maccas with 6 dogs in the back and grandma?
    Hmmmmmm Kids and cars dont mix especially with interiors like this one ….. Would make a great airport shuttle bus though ..

  • jdm102

    again whinge and whine all you fellas want (bagging out the Tarago) it still sells fools.. so obviously there is some element that is attracting the customers (the people you know who pay with their hard earnt money? unlike ones who can’t afford in the first place and whinge about it on the forums)..

    Nice Review.. welldone.

  • Paul

    I think the Tarago is overpriced mate, previous models had a lower spec that was $45k, in line with competition such as the Odyssey at $45k. Now the lowest is like $54k and granted it has a way better engine (Odyssey only has 120kw and 220Nm which is disgraceful) and some better features but its alot more to ask… large families are usuall the ones who are tight with money as well!

  • Foggy

    I’ve spent the last couple of months researching this particular market segment for my family.

    I really think that most of you (being car enthusiasts) overvalue the impact of engine performance to buyers of this type of car. Keep in mind that in a family situation, it will be driven 90% of the time by a mum who doesn’t know the different between the engine and the starter motor.

    For our requirements, the main criteria in (in a rough order of priority) were:
    1. Seating flexibility and load carrying capacity
    2. Safety
    3. Economy
    4. Practicality (visibility, ease of parking in shopping malls, doesn’t feel like a bus/truck)
    5. Comfort
    6. Green credentials
    7. Style
    8. Value for money
    9. Performance & handling

    In the end, we went for the new Citroen C4 Picasso Diesel because it met most of that criteria. We looked at the Tarago, and also felt that it was too expensive, and was also a little too big an unwieldly for regular trips to the shopping mall.

    • Trevor

      Good choice

  • Paul

    ^

    Not sure if we have placed to much emphasis on power… but Im sure even a mum who knows nothing about cars would feel the massive power difference between a 120kw 220Nm Odyseey and a 200kw 340Nm Tarago!!! I do agree though its not a main priority, which main be another downnfall of the Tarago as it seems they have upped the price (previous Ultima was $63k) based on some more features and its engine upgrade… things which the market dont seem to care much about!

  • 280zx

    I suppose if that car was full of adults and luggage surely you would need that kind of power?

  • Paul Maric

    In reply to Paul’s comment earlier with regards to the pricing.

    The pricing of the 4-cylinder models hasn’t changed Paul.

    The GLI, 4-cylinder Tarago is available for $49,490. But, as you mention, the Odyssey is available for $39,290 for the base model and $45,790 for the Luxury model – which outclasses the GLI in terms of features.

  • http://AustralianCarAdvice Dingo

    Toyota charges a premium for the Tarago because ‘IT CAN’. Besides, were is Holdens or Ford’s people mover…ummm – were is it !!

    I believe Holden had one for a wee while (Zafira)and went to the dogs because no-body wanted it. Even if they did have one of similar size to the Tarago there is no-way in this big, wide world that anyone in thier right mind would pay half a dime for it anyway.

    Holden and Ford have been lowering thier prices and offering sweetners (eg. Limited Lumina) because of thier declining fortunes. Acknowledge Toyota’s June sales – a whooping 25 000 in one single month alone… never heard of in Austrlian motoring history. I guess Toyota has ALL THE FORTUNES flowing in it’s creek hence why they have the ability to charge prices the way they do. Just goes to show how powerful the Toyota brand has bcome and i can guarantee most whingers are nothing more then just cut-up Holden/Ford loyalists.

    It must be sad days indeed for some when a Toyota people mover has more grunt then a Commodore or Falcon.

    Hey 280zx – trying putting the same all those people, macca’s, crayons etc into a typical Holden and Ford and see how long they maintain their grace and dignity for… Not long that would be sure bet hence why the Holden heap never sold.

  • Andrew. M

    geez, i didnt realise the tarago was this expensive (even the older model) obviously not a vehicle i research too much.
    no wonder the territory is such a great seller. not only in terms of price but also with its looks.
    i dont even rate the interior looks either.

    one thing i cant stand is when manufacturers like toyota, honda, nissan to name a few feel they have to reinvent where instruments are laid out. for e.g. the speedo…. it doesnt feel like you are driving the thing if the speedo is in the centre of the car. I know they prob get safety points for better visibility or whatever but i dont think it is that more noticable. and toyota also puts handbrakes on the passenger side of the car???? the further you extend your arm the less strength you have.

  • Andrew. M

    gee go off dingo

    ford do have a people mover the territory!! and for the same price as this you could get the top of line turbo ghia with all the extras. which one for starters do you think the kids would rather be dropped off in?? which one would handle better?? which one would have more power??

    a lot of toyotas sales success lies with their very large range of vehicles. hell in some classes they have more than one competitor. this is certainly not the case for ford. they have been lacking in many classes for years now. for one they killed off the laser and festiva (both name plates people became very familiar with) and have only now started to build up some recognition with a replacement. you can add the mondeo in there too when they killed it in the late 90′s or what ever it is really only toyota that competes in the mid size class.

    in summary what i am pointing out is toyota has a larger range of vehicles, and in a lot of classes they dont have a competitor from ford or even holden

  • jdm102

    *reads all the stuff

    one valid thing.. yup I agree not having a competitor for it, may be a reason it’s priced the way it is..

    Personally yeah I don’t think I’d be keen on spending that much if I had a big family, pretty sure there are alertnatives.. but going by the figures.. I guess it does appeal to alot families. ?

  • Squishy

    ^

    Yep, it does appeal to a lot of families, but who can blame it? It’s a relatively captive segment – the Odyssey is good, but it doesn’t have the same degree of interior size that the Tarago has (all three dimensions) – you just don’t feel quite as spacious when fully loaded.

    The points about 4WDs, it’s not really much of a comparison. 4WDs are either longer (externally) or have smaller lengthwise interior room, by definition of the fact that it has a nose. Part of the reason I particularly like the Tarago is because it doesn’t have the nose that sticks out, maximising the passenger room at the expense of a higher CoG (which you wouldn’t be terribly concerned about if you’re comparing it to a ‘Cruiser).

    As for it being more expensive than previous generations, yep, that’s a fact of life, unfortunately. The people who would buy the V6 Ultima probably wouldn’t care though. It’s less practical than the base model in some ways (7 seater only), but at the same time, you’re paying for the luxuries like the woodgrain interior, the ‘captain’ chairs in the 2nd row (with reclining footrests), electronic doors and electronic folding rear seats.

    The latter is the one that I think is the ‘value’ component in the luxury equation – if that was an option on the earlier models, I know plenty of people who would be likely to pay a lot for that ease.

    Still… I know that if I were going to buy a Tarago, I’d scrounge the extra and go the Ultima over the base 2.4L. But that’s just me – the Tarago is a car that you’re likely to keep for years and years (since if you need one, there aren’t many other cars that you’d move to instead) – we kept a Tarago for about 18 years before we outgrew it and us kids started driving our own cars around. So the extra cost over a period of time, it’s worth it for the convenience and the luxury.

    On the other hand, I wouldn’t buy one right now – no need for me.

    Btw – 0-100km/h in just over 7 seconds is a joke. The Aurion does it in 7.2-7.5 secs, and the Tarago is heavier, with no special tuning done to the engine. Real world figures, please?

  • Paul

    I agree with most… in regards to acceleration I think it would be high 7s low 8s? How much more does it the Tarago weigh? Still its going to be better then something like an Odyssey that must do the 100 in 20s!

    QUOTE = The points about 4WDs, it’s not really much of a comparison. 4WDs are either longer (externally) or have smaller lengthwise interior room, by definition of the fact that it has a nose. Part of the reason I particularly like the Tarago is because it doesn’t have the nose that sticks out, maximising the passenger room at the expense of a higher CoG (which you wouldn’t be terribly concerned about if you’re comparing it to a ‘Cruiser).

    I think its a reasonable comparison in some regards. For starters they may not offer quite the same room but larger 4WD still offer the same number of passenger seats. Also, the fact that the Tarago has a smaller nose means that engine is in a cramped space, servicing costs are going to be reasonably high… granted that longer life spark plugs and a chain timing belt help abit here, but still!

  • Astro Boy

    I noticed no one has actually stated that the tarago is UGLY. Am i the only one that will openly state how ugly this thing is, or do people actually think it looks good? I think the Volkswagon van looks better and the Kia and mitsubishi people movers. I dont really care about these behemoth ugly bricks but i cant help but notice them when they are as ugly as this tarago. And yes i think its overly priced, jeez $75000!! if you want a fast people mover get a Territory Turbo Ghia. For that price i would want something that looked good on the outside… the tarago is but ugly! The interior looks ok, its ‘modern/star trek’ obviously the designers who designed the tarago are nerds and have no idea of what a ‘nice’ VAN should look like. I would be impressed if they put the landcruiser’s V8 in it and made it rear drive, i dont care if it wont fit. RAM IT IN THERE it has to have a v8. Now that would be cool and make a supercharged TRD Tarago V8 with a nice v8 note as i have heard some landcruisers burbling out. Cant be too hard, just use some landcruiser parts. And fix that mutilated front, leave the rear thats ok. AHHh make it a V8 and everything is good again.

  • Foggy

    ^
    So if they did all that (and jacked up the price accordingly), would you buy one Astro Boy? …didn’t think so!

    Toyota have obviously found a niche in the market, and its not the stereotypical V8 “supercar” fan.

    BTW… I don’t think it’s any uglier than a Territory, or a Landcruiser. I think many people might have a psychological aversion to a people mover shaped vehicle and the soccer mum image that it projects, which taints their judgement.

  • jdm102

    ^^ well said.. X2

  • http://AustrlianCarAdvice Dingo

    Andrew – you conveniantly forgot that Toyota has the Kluger with the ALL-NEW model arriving early in August also with the 200KW 3.5 V6. Lets not forget the smaller Avensis either so Toyota virtually has 3 poeple movers to choose from not 1 which gives the consumers a greater variety of vehicles to satisfy thier each individual requirements.

    The next generation Kluger will also come in 2WD or 4WD as with the Territory. And lets not forget about the Prado either. I actknowledge it is in a differeant league with it’s full off-roads abilities but regardless it is still another choice for the consumer with the same seating capacity and similarly priced pending on the spec.

    Regardless, the Tarago is the biggest selling dedicated people mover which is testimony that is quite popular with it’s niche market. I am employed by Rio Tinto and they purchase Tarago’s as thier corporate shuttles and lately i have noticed they have been purchasing the new V6 variant. Success is sweet.

    If you want a people mover from Holden you have the Caprtiva (whoopy do). Ford offers the Territory while Toyota offers the Tarago, Avensis, Kluger and to a lesser extent the Prado.

  • Paul

    Yeah you cant compare the looks of a people mover and a 4WD for mine… of course its going to have a different shape. For what it is its not heaps heaps bad looking.

  • Andrew. M

    ok let me revisit this quote……..

    “a lot of toyotas sales success lies with their very large range of vehicles. hell in some classes they have more than one competitor. this is certainly not the case for ford.”

    what you have said dingo agrees with this.

    Paul, the territory is not a 4WD. and a lot of people use it as an alternative to ugly people movers. yes it can be compared as ford targets the same market of people.

    and with the kluger…. it looks like a ssangyong from the rear so it fulfills the ugly people mover criteria

  • Paul

    QUOTE = Paul, the territory is not a 4WD. and a lot of people use it as an alternative to ugly people movers. yes it can be compared as ford targets the same market of people.

    You know what I mean… its an alternate design mate, its not in the same class. Not to mention, Im not sure if it can seat 7 like a people mover and certainly nowhere near as much comfort! When I referred to 4WDs in my original post as being better value I meant the likes of Landcruisers which still offer loads of room, I cant see a person looking at Taragos even considering a Territory.

  • Andrew. M

    paul for your information the territory can seat 7. they have a row that folds flat so you get more versatility. more storage space or some more seats.
    and as for comfort i could assure you that the tarago would handle like a marshmallow compared to the territory.
    the territory and tarago target the same audience so i say they can be compared. all ford has done is come up with a way to make the people mover a little more exciting.

  • Squishy

    Andrew. M, I disagree. You might as well say that a Camry is a serious competitor to a Falcon – in most cases, that just ain’t so.

    Sure, there will be a subset of people who will treat them as competitors. But they’d be pretty silly to do that – there’s a 7 seater Kluger (especially since the new one resembles the Territory so much) that’s supposed to be the direct competitor.

    The Tarago is very much the people mover, whereas the Territory is the SUV. Toyota make no bones about the fact that the Tarago is *not* an SUV, and Ford only hype up the 3rd row because they don’t have anything else decent that has one.

    Foggy – you’re absolutely right, it’s found a niche. However, I don’t actually associate the Tarago with the soccer mums – I view the Territory in that mould, to be honest. Mostly because of Ford’s marketing campaign (nice rig…) targeting the soccer mums, so they have only themselves to blame (or congratulate) for that.

    Perhaps it’s my personal experience, but I tend to associate the Tarago with either the ‘parents and 4 kids’ family, or the ’2+3 / 2+4 long drives’ family. As soon as the 3rd kid is over 10, taking a long drive in a medium/large car isn’t ideal, and the 3rd row is good in that respect, in any car.

  • http://AustralianCarAdvice Dingo

    Andrew M – you a wayward type of fella. The Tarago as with the Avensis are dedicated People Movers and nothing more or nothing less. The Territory is actually a SUV the same as with the RAV4 and Kluger.

    The Territory IS NOT a dedicated competitor to the Tarago but rather the Kluger, CRV, Captiva etc etc.
    Like i said earlier, Holden and Ford only have one vehicle each to move 7 people whereas Toyota has several – Tarago, Avensis, Kluger and to a lesser extent the Prado although that is a dedicated off-road vehicle.

    Ford nor Holden don’t have a dedicated People Mover but a SUV instead. Toyota satisfies both these markets with two example each… People Mover – Tarago & Avensis… SUV – RAV4 & Kluger.

    Seriuosly Andrew, is it really that complicated for you to understand such simple basics ??

    What ever happened to the Holden Zafira ???… it was abandoned because no-one in thier right would have brought it against Japanese examples.

  • Andrew. M

    ok time to clear up what im on about…
    i came past the postings of the tarago amazed to see people talking it up to be something its not. it shows me the people that entered posts here are toyota loyalists (and thats fine), but to talk 0-100 times with excitement gave me a chuckle. i think there was only one post related to the prospect of buying this here. the rest of you know you would never consider it…dont you?

    what i was pointing out with the territory was it does target the same market whether it is labled a people mover or not. what ford has come up with is a soccer mums car that the soccer dad wont be afraid to be seen in. they had to offer different variants because they cant sustain say 4 models to spread the sales over, it just wouldnt make business sence.
    thats why you can get it in RWD/AWD/luxury and sports variants. gone are the days where large families have to buy vans to fit their tribe in to.
    most people are image based now.
    oh yeah and i think toyota has realised this too as now they will be offering the kluger in RWD aswell. that is so large families with small budgets dont have to pay for AWD cause they prob wont even know its there.

  • Paul

    QUOTE = but to talk 0-100 times with excitement gave me a chuckle.

    Yes that was the point, chuckling that a Tarargo could compete against a Falcon and Commodore in a straight line.

    As for rest I can see what your saying, Im sure people would consider all the options, but the people that Toyota n Co specifically target for the likes of a Tarago are those who only want and need a people mover. Those who get SUVs instead usually dont have 7 people to fill 7 seats, rather a large family of say 5, because theyd hardly use fold downs as a peromanent seating arrangement if they did have a larger family, which dont have curtain airbags like the Tarago and from my experiences are often alittle flimsy (although I havent seen the Territories).

  • Andrew. M

    paul the area that the tarago targets is the taxi and car lease/hire guys. i dont consider the base model RWD territory a SUV in the same way i dont consider the prado a SUV. a 4wd doesnt belong with AWD’s and RWD’s dont belong with AWD’s.

    1 thing is though, you cant argue that ford has built the territory to fill the void/need for people movers whether they be stylish or notthey have killed 2 birds with 1 stone so to speak.

    i hate to be a pesamist but i doubt the 0-100 figures to be like 7secs. that also gives the aurion a scare dont forget, and the tarago has more weight and im sure it is geared differently too. also the fuel figures that say it consumes a bit more fuel which also suggests it isnt going to be as quick as the large car main competitors

  • Al Juraj

    Why the hell is the Tarago more expensive than the new Kluger? They share the same 3.5-liter V6, can both seat seven, but the Kluger can go where the Tarago can’t. Go figure.

  • CrowdedHouse

    I checked out Ford Territory today – and it is NOT a people mover, it is a pretender with an identity crisis. It has a row of seats squashed in the back that anyone over 10 years old would be cramped in. You get the choice of People or Luggage, but not both. I’m off to have a closer look at the more appealing Tarago….

  • Tim

    Look folks the new Tarago is a woeful family car for the money, I myself am buying a vw multivan for the same sort of money.

    First off the middle seat in the middle row is like a rock against your back, talking the middle 3 seater models, you’d be a dead set cruel parent to put anyone in that seat.

    Then we move onto the back seat, the middle seat theire with the seatbelt coming out of the ceiling would strangle anyone under about 178cms in an accident and I myself was not too happy about sitting in the seat.

    don’t get me started on spacesaving tyres. I have 5 kids so I need a real people mover and toyota are not appealing tot he family market. They know they can’t compete with the new carnival seeing as they are not as room on the inside as the new carnival.

    Personally I would take the Grand carnival over the tarago anyday and that is saying something. A few years ago I and the wife really were looking forward to the tarago, but not anymore, by the time we got the money etc to afford one, toyota have gone for fancy and dandy over useability.

    Toyota have made a bad move with this vehicle for the family as far as I am concerned. I find it incredible that anyone would buy the tarago over the VW multivan in this price range.

  • Ralph

    We are looking at the new Tarago, the price does pull us up a bit that’s why we will be looking a one from the Government auctions, 20k on it for $12-15k less. As for the Territory style SUVs I looked at them but with 4 growing kids there is not enough space in the back, add to that a push bike I take everywhere (comes inside due to cost of it) the Tarago is better. We have a 97 model Tarago now and it is bigger in the boot than the new one, thats the only drawback

  • http://www.stopmotionpro.com Paul

    My Ro80 has more room than most of the SUVs I have looked at. It is faster than any other car on the road and looks 100 times better to. And it is 38 years old. A car of the future alright.

    The Tarago is good, and because there is little choice they charge heaps. The VW is the only serious choice, again, too expensive for a big box.

  • Duck

    Still looks like a bus and does not look as good as the honda Odyssey and the Mitsubishi Grandis

  • o

    we have a current generration tarago and our neighbours have a 5 sereies and even they commented on how good it looks leg room in row two better than a caprice and even those seats are right back the third row has about hyundai getz room interior is great for wear and tear and rarely feels underpowered

  • reebee

    We are a family of 7 ( 5 kids two adults) and we have been searching for some time for a decent people mover. Yes , the Tarago is what we have had to look at more seriously as it is the only thing on the market that has any sort of useable luggage area. The new versions are WELL out of our price bracket. We already own a Toyota Prado and even though it has enough seats , it’s luggage space is appalling. We need to fit in a double pram plus nappy bags etc and we can NEVER fit in the groceries without someone balancing something on their laps/under foot.

    As for the suggestion that the Holden Captiva or Ford Territory would be considered people movers , well I’m sorry but you really don’t have people to move if that is the case. The Captiva being the worst offender with the head rests on the third row of seats actually hitting the glass on the rear door. We wouldn’t even fit a normal size pram/stroller in it little own the huge one we need to have.

    I don’t like the look of any of these vans such as the Volkswagon or Tarago , but need to have the space. We are currently looking into the new Hyundai iMax which has oodles of luggage space and room for the growing children.Not fussed on Hyundai , but need to get something in our price bracket which Tarago clearly isn’t.

  • Daniel

    What about the new 2008 Chrysler Grand voyager?

    For the same price as the ULTIMA you countless more fetures and plus it looks a whole heap better with a better build qulity (built in Austria not Australia Austria)

    With the Australian dollar so stong this car would cost about $95 000 if bulit and sold in Australia but because it is from America we get such ggod value for our dollar

    Have a loock at it!

  • Duck

    OVERATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rob

    What no one has mentioned here is resale value. This by far will have better resale value than a Ford Territory or a Mitsubishi? Please. Didnt they just close down? Everyone I know that has owned a Territory hated them. As for the Multivan, I almost bought one till I found out they were a good 10 to 20cm higher than anything else meaning limited parking in undergound carparks, and they look like a box on wheels. The only other competitors, the Viano starts at $77K, enough said….and the Voyager, try $2000 to replace a computer that operates the dash instruments…needless to say the Toyota is cheap for parts, cheap for service and great for resale value which appeals to families.
    The Ultima is the only thing that looks half decent (granted not so much from the front) with all the luxuries you could want.
    My advice, I just bought a 2007 model from a dealer with less than 20,000 km’s and saved $21K, which was the price for the standard GLX and Multivan Comforline models…
    Love it so far!

  • http://realcars realcars

    You bought a 2007 and saved 21k!

    So much for good resale!

    The more u pay the more u loose at trade in time no matter what it is. Toyota are no better in this regard.

  • TP

    Realcars great insight… the Tarago is class leading, it shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence as the Territory.

    As for the $21k decrease, cars lose 30% as soon as they leave the dealership, given the high purchase price that doesnt indicate bad resale at all.

  • simon

    Fascinating discussion. I went to look at a Tarago this morning. The interesting thing is that if you are in the market for a car like that, you start looking at the back. Really – the first thing we did was to open the boot, look at the storage space and the third row of seats. A people mover typically has real seats all the way back, whereas a 4WD/AWD has a small hard bench that might be ok for occasional use for a small kids or two.
    We liked the boot space (particularly the trench where the rear row folds into and the split folding of the rear seat, so that we can take one person in the back and still take stacks of luggage.
    Then we moved forwards – 2nd row, great seats.
    Last thing we looked at the front seats and driving position. All ok, but quite a different approach from what what a lot of the contributors here would do I think, where they look at the outside and sit in the front for a test drive. That’s not what a people mover’s about.
    Still, driving is important. I’ve driven an old 4 cylinder Tarago in the past full of gear and it struggled up hills at 100k’s. I’m sure the V6 would be a lot more comfortable taking the family on a holiday.
    When I was single, I’d start looking at the front of a car, but in the people mover market, it’s the seating and luggage space that matters. The Tarago’s doing well there, much more than any of the big ‘alternatives’, such as Lkuder, Territory, etc., and the power, finish and gadgets make it seem like the right choice for us.

  • peter

    I am currently in the US and looking for a new car with my inlaws. They are buying a Toyota XLE top of the line which I think is equivalent to a TArago. Why do they pay $31,000 and we pay over 50 and close to $60,000 for these cars. Same goes with Toyota Landcruiser, Vbrand new with all mod cons $60,000 US in Australia over $120,000. I thought with the dollar doing so well we would be a little more competitive.
    What is going on

  • Billster

    Another Toyota Rip Off,
    I would go for the Grand Carnival Platinum or New Grand Voyager before this. Just too expensive for what it offers.

  • Arthur

    I upgraded my 1997 Tarago to the 2008 model(has a DVD player in the ceiling) about a year ago. It took a few weeks to get used to the front wheel drive and balance compared to the old model.
    While I haven’t timed the 100 meter sprint with it. It is snappy enough off the lights to get in front of most cars up to the speed limit (either 60 or 80 kph). In fact, I can’t recall one car that has got in front of me yet. Larger Motor cycles are my only nemesis. With 2 people in the vehicle, I can honestly say that it outpaced a boy racer in a VW R32 off the lights and left it scrambling to catch up. A blonde in a Honda Civic “R” series also fell victim. She was very angry and had to break the speed limit to pass me. Holdens and Fords have so far either not cared or have seen the V6VVT badge on the side of the Tarago as it passed them and backed off.
    I must say I love this car. It is such a sleeper and sucks the eyeballs straight out of the sockets of those unsuspecting road blockers that try to pass on the outside lane.
    So
    For me not having to peddle up the hills with a full load of adults is fantastic. With a little Optimax in the motor it just shreds the tires at the lights and revs to almost 7k.
    I even went into Toyota and asked for the TRD version. They said “not yet” but “let’s see what the market asks for”. I checked the engine bay size with the TRD Aurion and guess what? Plenty of room for a blower in there.
    and
    I love the gadgets.
    I guess the GLX V6 would have weighed a little less and given me some more speed but the add ons make up for it on the highway. Very quiet and smooth. Well done, Toyota.
    I am glad I waited the 3 months for it to arrive.

  • mother of 5

    Well… it has been very interesting reading most of these comments…. considering they all appear to have been written by men.

    We have just purchased our first Tarago, it is a 2007 model, 4 cylinder GLi.

    For someones information on a previous comment, I DO KNOW the difference between an engine and a starter motor, and for that fact the transmission, and master brake cylinder and the radiator and the air conditioning compressor, suspension components etc!!!!! and I also know a tool when I see one.

    It has been all men commenting on this article so far, and I concede that alot of women are clueless when it comes to cars, but this one is not. I have owned MANY vehicles over the last 20+ years, of ALL variants, family cars, small cars, 4WD’s, sports cars.

    I must say that I am very happy with my Tarago, it drives beautifully, very smooth, and has MORE than enough power to get me around town, I mean really, how fast do you want to go??? you can only do the speed limit.

    It is so easy to get the little ones in and out! I love the driving position, the GLi has enough bells and whistles, the only thing I am not happy about is that heat does not go through to the back….. Why would you only have the cold air available to the back, don’t they think the little ones would get cold down the back in winter????

    Taragos are for families and are driven mainly by the mothers, as they are the ones that primarily taxi the kids around. It is easy to drive, park and handle, in alot of respects just feels like a normal car on steroids.

    Someone said it was ugly… I disagree, there are worse things on the road, and for the size it is, there is realistically only so much you can do, and for aerodynamics, body noise etc it is very good. It is very stable on the road, and does not have any body roll.

    I am critical of the dash console area from the point of view of hidey holes… so much wasted space, would like it better laid out, and more thought into the cup holders.

    I previously owned a small car, and I had more room in the door pockets and hidey holes than I do now! I am still sorting out where to put everything.

    The car salesman could not believe how much stuff I pulled out of my little car when I traded it in…. I was very well aware that I did have it all stacked and stashed very well…..

    Toyotas are quality vehicles. Not much tends to go wrong with them. They set the bench mark in people movers 20+ years ago, and everyone has been struggling to catch up ever since….

    If you like it, buy one. If you haven’t bought one, and don’t own one, then don’t knock it!

  • confuse

    road test the 4 cylinder cheaper model please

  • burston

    A Tarago loaded up with all the bells and whistles, very nice indeed Toyota!

    But my favourite people mover of all: the JDM Toyota Alphard / Vellfire twins (GGH20), V6 top-of-the-line spec with HDD Navigation with bluetooth, ‘intelligent park assist’, ‘NAVI AI-SHIFT’, ‘wide view front & side monitor’, ‘lane keeping assist’, radar cruise control and electronic adjustable suspension. Check out the ‘executive power seat’, electric curtains, electric tailgate, 9-inch rear seat entertainment system and plasmacluster aircon as well!

    I own a previous generation Alphard MZ G Edition V6 (MNH10, with 1MZ-FE), loaded up but not as nice as the GGH20 series.

  • KC

    Well beauty is all in the eye of the beholder!! We are going for the Ssangyong Stavic!!!!The 2010 model hads heaps of space and they look great, as well as great performance and value for money. They are the most under rated people mover. They sell well in Europe, because they have good taste over there!!!…..I would wear a bag on my head if I had to ride in a Tarago!!!
    And yes people who have 4+ kids do start looking at people movers by looking in the back. To suggest Kluger or Territory in this league is a joke!!!!

  • cfc

    How about a Kia Carnival or Hyundai i-Max. At least you get a 5-year warranty and a decent amount of safety features. And neither of those hurt your eyes to look at!!

  • paul1234

    I read with interest the varying points of view and must say these forums provide a passionate and insightful view on people’s preferences.

    I do own a V6 Tarago (GLX model) and must say that overall on balance on price, drive and practicality – it is worth owning.

    I previously owned a Chrysler Voyager V6 and it served the purpose well, but consumed more fuel and I was at risk at spending $$ on servicing and repairs.

    More importantly I enjoy driving the car but my wife and 4 kids are mostly in the car and it is a quality vehicle in terms of safety, space and power. I also use the Tarago for towing and it performs well. If you like a car but it is too expensive then buy it 1-2 years old and save $20K and keep the car for at least 8-10 years and it is value for money for the quality features.

    I purchased at $42K, with only 21ks, 7 seater, forward /reverse sensors, DVD player, 3rd rows go into floor – very versatile – own one to enjoy own.
    cheers.

  • Caris

    well i think the teragos are a great family car they are great too look at and not only that have a great life spam i have a terago now and it is great had it for 10 year look bran new still and it is
    soo this truly is the greatest car
    thank you

  • freddy8

    i had a toyota tarago glx model 2007 why is not start engine

  • freddy8

    i had a toyota tarago glx model 2007 why is not start engine, drive fine this morning and parked for 30mins and came back and won’t start at all.. for the last couple of week ago i had a cranking engine problem such as hard to start for a few second and after that start fine
    why won’t start at all?

  • Bryan

    No mention here of the Kia Grand Carnival; maybe this review was written before they came out? The Tarago Ultima is a beautiful vehicle [particularly inside] and with the V6 is an enjoyable drive – would be better with all-wheel-drive though to help cope with the weight… I saw a black one the other day with dark windows and some nice wheels and it looked awsome! Unfortunately the seventy grand price tag will be just too much for a lot of people. I think the top of the range Grand Carnival is about fifty thousand and while it probably isn’t quite up to the Tarago’s level of quality, it still has all the leather and stuff inside. The Kia now comes in a diesel too which is something that is missing from Toyota’s range.