And yes, displacement, is another way of extracting power. A clear comparison would be the M3 and the C63 which both put out around the 300KW mark. Having big displacement isn’t necessarily a bad thing if the 63 is anything to go by, drive one and you’ll understand why. It’s power delivery for daily driving that makes the difference, from light to light not from corner to corner on a track, where it makes little difference.

It’s one thing to have 300KW and 500Nm from a 5L V8, it’s another to have it delivered to you by a 4.5L Turbo’d 6. The moment you touch the accelerator in 6th, instant power delivery. No delay.

The Realist – You know, AMG are cutting back, you don’t even get the “AMG” floormats anymore =(

Can’t wait to buy HSV replicas from the local BP for $4.99

Seriously, no one says anything about AMG having a 6.3 litre motor, they previously used a supercharged 5.4 litre motor as their flagship motor but found that a larger displacement naturally aspirated motor was more pure and in keeping with the “feeling” they where trying to create in their cars. If its ok for AMG then why isn’t it ok for HSV? Now go away…

The Germans will do whatever they want, so don’t speak on their behalf. They don’t like you.

Holden’s new 3.0 V6 IS very 21st century! It is comparable to the 530i in power (both 190kw). Sure it is 15 or so nm down, but would you pay 3 times as much for 15nm?

More importantly, the 3.6 (not even in its full power state of tune) is the most powerful Aussie engine. Even with an extra 400cc the Ford isn’t competitive. Sure it has more torque, but specific output per litre, or efficiency as you have been talking about above, it is less than the Holden. More power outright. More power per litre. More torque per litre.

Facts are facts, these engine updates combined with 6 speed standard trannies is VERY MUCH a 21st century upgrade (and about bloody time, Holden!)