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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3641/2008-ford-falcon-orion-ute-interior-spied/#comment-50393</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that gets me... Magazines like &quot;Wheels&quot; and &quot;Motor&quot; will run spy photos of the latest local Falcons and Commdore... They &quot;guess&quot; what the newest models look like, they ask the readers to send in their photographics...

And when the new models are released, they run &quot;inside stories&quot; of their involvement in the project (suspension tune on the BA Falcon was attributed to a team consisting of Ford specialist and &quot;Wheels&quot; magazine journos). They feature pictures of their secret test runs to the Northern Territory, etc, etc...

They did it with the Avalon, AU, BA, VT, VE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that gets me&#8230; Magazines like &#8220;Wheels&#8221; and &#8220;Motor&#8221; will run spy photos of the latest local Falcons and Commdore&#8230; They &#8220;guess&#8221; what the newest models look like, they ask the readers to send in their photographics&#8230;</p>
<p>And when the new models are released, they run &#8220;inside stories&#8221; of their involvement in the project (suspension tune on the BA Falcon was attributed to a team consisting of Ford specialist and &#8220;Wheels&#8221; magazine journos). They feature pictures of their secret test runs to the Northern Territory, etc, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>They did it with the Avalon, AU, BA, VT, VE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3641/2008-ford-falcon-orion-ute-interior-spied/#comment-48003</link>
		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An emotive subject methinks.

Here’s an outsiders view. Holden Ford who cares (I don’t) I buy what’s suitable for me. Yep both in competition with each other, oh and both losing money faster than Bill Gates makes it. PENI S above was pretty much correct, its all about badges and not the Australian thing to car manufacturers. Think about it population of Australia 20million, Europe population dunno say 250million, USA/Canada 300million say. Do you honestly believe that there’s enough sales opportunity in Australia alone to develop a peculiar model for Oz. Nope not a chance. That’s why we’re sharing platforms and engines (the expensive bits) globally.. live with it. You can hang whatever body work you like on the platform mostly its down to looks. If you could put General Motors/Holden and Ford on a pair of scales the balance would go to Ford but only by a small fraction. I for one didn’t like to look of Falcon but that’s my opinion. The only reason the likes of Holden and Ford sell well is they are cheap and plentiful and have no competition. BMW/Merc/Audi are out of there league both in performance and price. Holden do have strange perception of the Australian market thinking people want re-badged Korean stuff when what would be better is a lightly adapted Euro model like things used to be with the Rekord/Commodore thing, until they realise that its Ford who will benefit of the Markeyt share.

Anyway the Falcon…the interior is definitely not up to Eurocar standards… see the Mondeo as an example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An emotive subject methinks.</p>
<p>Here’s an outsiders view. Holden Ford who cares (I don’t) I buy what’s suitable for me. Yep both in competition with each other, oh and both losing money faster than Bill Gates makes it. PENI S above was pretty much correct, its all about badges and not the Australian thing to car manufacturers. Think about it population of Australia 20million, Europe population dunno say 250million, USA/Canada 300million say. Do you honestly believe that there’s enough sales opportunity in Australia alone to develop a peculiar model for Oz. Nope not a chance. That’s why we’re sharing platforms and engines (the expensive bits) globally.. live with it. You can hang whatever body work you like on the platform mostly its down to looks. If you could put General Motors/Holden and Ford on a pair of scales the balance would go to Ford but only by a small fraction. I for one didn’t like to look of Falcon but that’s my opinion. The only reason the likes of Holden and Ford sell well is they are cheap and plentiful and have no competition. BMW/Merc/Audi are out of there league both in performance and price. Holden do have strange perception of the Australian market thinking people want re-badged Korean stuff when what would be better is a lightly adapted Euro model like things used to be with the Rekord/Commodore thing, until they realise that its Ford who will benefit of the Markeyt share.</p>
<p>Anyway the Falcon…the interior is definitely not up to Eurocar standards… see the Mondeo as an example.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3641/2008-ford-falcon-orion-ute-interior-spied/#comment-48001</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford AU models have only had 4 recalls not 6 ...

1:  Product Info: Ford AU Series I and AU Series II Falcon Forte, Futura, Fairmont and Fairmont Ghia, XR variants, Fairlane, LTD, Utes and FTE Vehicles built from 1 June 1998 to 22 May 2001 inclusive.

Defect Details:  There is the possibility that inappropriate servicing of the steering rack retaining hardware may affect the integrity of the steering rack mounting stud. Overtightening of the steering rack mounting hardware may degrade the thread locking compound.

2:   Ford Au Falcon &amp; Fairlane Vehicles
Product Info: Campaign Srcc176. Built From March 19, 1999 To March 22, 1999 Inclusive.

Defect Details:  The Bolts Securing The Upper Suspension Arm To Upper Arm Bushes May Be Affected By Hydrogen Embrittlement Resulting In Suspension Noise And In Extreme Cases, Upper Arms May Separate From The Bushes.

3:   Product Info: All Au Models To March 24, 1999.

Defect Details:  May Have Incorrectly Torqued Front Spindle Upper Ball Joint Retaining Bolts.

4:   Product Info: Au Models Specified With Front Bench Seat And Passenger Airbag, Built To March 15, 1999.

Defect Details:  Front Centre Seat Belts Have A Passenger Airbag Warning Label Attached To The Belt Which Prevents The Belt From Being Shortened To A Level Which Complies With Adr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford AU models have only had 4 recalls not 6 &#8230;</p>
<p>1:  Product Info: Ford AU Series I and AU Series II Falcon Forte, Futura, Fairmont and Fairmont Ghia, XR variants, Fairlane, LTD, Utes and FTE Vehicles built from 1 June 1998 to 22 May 2001 inclusive.</p>
<p>Defect Details:  There is the possibility that inappropriate servicing of the steering rack retaining hardware may affect the integrity of the steering rack mounting stud. Overtightening of the steering rack mounting hardware may degrade the thread locking compound.</p>
<p>2:   Ford Au Falcon &amp; Fairlane Vehicles<br />
Product Info: Campaign Srcc176. Built From March 19, 1999 To March 22, 1999 Inclusive.</p>
<p>Defect Details:  The Bolts Securing The Upper Suspension Arm To Upper Arm Bushes May Be Affected By Hydrogen Embrittlement Resulting In Suspension Noise And In Extreme Cases, Upper Arms May Separate From The Bushes.</p>
<p>3:   Product Info: All Au Models To March 24, 1999.</p>
<p>Defect Details:  May Have Incorrectly Torqued Front Spindle Upper Ball Joint Retaining Bolts.</p>
<p>4:   Product Info: Au Models Specified With Front Bench Seat And Passenger Airbag, Built To March 15, 1999.</p>
<p>Defect Details:  Front Centre Seat Belts Have A Passenger Airbag Warning Label Attached To The Belt Which Prevents The Belt From Being Shortened To A Level Which Complies With Adr.</p>
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		<title>By: Watto_Cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watto_Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Importjap, my memory is a little fuzzy. What were the AU recalls?

I remember getting a new brake line during a routine service, but don&#039;t remember the others. Maybe they didn&#039;t affect my model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Importjap, my memory is a little fuzzy. What were the AU recalls?</p>
<p>I remember getting a new brake line during a routine service, but don&#8217;t remember the others. Maybe they didn&#8217;t affect my model.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oz.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAMN RIGHT GREG!!!lol

Pete, my last comment was to show you and your fellow biased Holdenwoo fans some painfull history which is likely to return in may this year...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAMN RIGHT GREG!!!lol</p>
<p>Pete, my last comment was to show you and your fellow biased Holdenwoo fans some painfull history which is likely to return in may this year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ImportJap</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3641/2008-ford-falcon-orion-ute-interior-spied/#comment-47997</link>
		<dc:creator>ImportJap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Ford and Holden have had plenty of recalls. The AU had  6 recalls from memory, and three series to fix the issues. I think the VT of the same era had 2 or 3. There&#039;s always problems with cars produced in high numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Ford and Holden have had plenty of recalls. The AU had  6 recalls from memory, and three series to fix the issues. I think the VT of the same era had 2 or 3. There&#8217;s always problems with cars produced in high numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, very solid OZ, stick the boots where it hurts, around his kidney area, I will back you if he reacts again..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, very solid OZ, stick the boots where it hurts, around his kidney area, I will back you if he reacts again..</p>
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		<title>By: Oz.</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3641/2008-ford-falcon-orion-ute-interior-spied/#comment-47994</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you basing your judgement on Pete?? 
Ford Falcons have allways been better than Commodores in the past and it took Holdenwoo more than 5 years &amp; 1 billion dollars to just get their nose in front, yet there are still key areas where the aging Falcon is still better than the Billion dollar lemon flop with 4 recalls already.

Hey greg, my last two comments were your style wernt they? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you basing your judgement on Pete??<br />
Ford Falcons have allways been better than Commodores in the past and it took Holdenwoo more than 5 years &amp; 1 billion dollars to just get their nose in front, yet there are still key areas where the aging Falcon is still better than the Billion dollar lemon flop with 4 recalls already.</p>
<p>Hey greg, my last two comments were your style wernt they? <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I could be of a entertaining service Pete, but those are the facts written in black and white,  what made me laugh is your statement:  I still say the ‘new’ falcon will be a lemon in the sales department, yer it will go hard for afew months max then holden will release ve mk2 and will pretty much sin(k) falcon for good. Come back and re-read this prediction next year...

ARE YOU FOR REAL PETE, HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT THE WORDS YOU TYPED IN THAT PARAGRAPH, THIS HAS TO THE MOST NAIVE THINKING I&#039;VE ENCOUNTED FOR A LONG TIME..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I could be of a entertaining service Pete, but those are the facts written in black and white,  what made me laugh is your statement:  I still say the ‘new’ falcon will be a lemon in the sales department, yer it will go hard for afew months max then holden will release ve mk2 and will pretty much sin(k) falcon for good. Come back and re-read this prediction next year&#8230;</p>
<p>ARE YOU FOR REAL PETE, HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT THE WORDS YOU TYPED IN THAT PARAGRAPH, THIS HAS TO THE MOST NAIVE THINKING I&#8217;VE ENCOUNTED FOR A LONG TIME&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Oz.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oz.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do I make myself clear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I make myself clear?</p>
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