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		<title>By: jaco</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3614/gps-beats-speeding-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-138774</link>
		<dc:creator>jaco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im lookin 4 the regulation on the use of radar guns and lookin 4 the use protocal the cops gotta go buy in use of radar guns and need info on this new hoon law rights wat right we hav as civilians i hav court on the 15th next month tryin to fight 4 my licence as im a contractor and my licence to work and all i get is the run around im tryin to fight 4 work licence at least court is at redcliffe on 15th plz call if u can 0411065122 will need a spokesman plz if anyone could help me plz queenland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im lookin 4 the regulation on the use of radar guns and lookin 4 the use protocal the cops gotta go buy in use of radar guns and need info on this new hoon law rights wat right we hav as civilians i hav court on the 15th next month tryin to fight 4 my licence as im a contractor and my licence to work and all i get is the run around im tryin to fight 4 work licence at least court is at redcliffe on 15th plz call if u can 0411065122 will need a spokesman plz if anyone could help me plz queenland</p>
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		<title>By: jaco</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3614/gps-beats-speeding-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-138773</link>
		<dc:creator>jaco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im lookin 4 the regulation on the use of radar guns and lookin 4 the use protocal the cops gotta go buy in use of radar guns and need info on this new hoon law rights wat right we hav as civilians i hav court on the 15th next month tryin to fight 4 my licence as im a contractor and my licence to work and all i get is the run around im tryin to fight 4 work licence at least court is at redcliffe on 15th plz call if u can 0411065122 will need a spokesman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im lookin 4 the regulation on the use of radar guns and lookin 4 the use protocal the cops gotta go buy in use of radar guns and need info on this new hoon law rights wat right we hav as civilians i hav court on the 15th next month tryin to fight 4 my licence as im a contractor and my licence to work and all i get is the run around im tryin to fight 4 work licence at least court is at redcliffe on 15th plz call if u can 0411065122 will need a spokesman</p>
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		<title>By: jaco</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3614/gps-beats-speeding-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-138772</link>
		<dc:creator>jaco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im lookin 4 the regulation on the use of radar guns and lookin 4 the use protocal the cops gotta go buy in use of radar guns and need info on this new hoon law rights wat right we hav as civilians</description>
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		<title>By: JoyBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3614/gps-beats-speeding-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-24551</link>
		<dc:creator>JoyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All speed cameras are illegal in Australia .. it is only a matter of time before it all changes. save your money now and learn how and why you should never pay a speeding fine ever again. it works i have used it www.howtodot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All speed cameras are illegal in Australia .. it is only a matter of time before it all changes. save your money now and learn how and why you should never pay a speeding fine ever again. it works i have used it <a href="http://www.howtodot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.howtodot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonno</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3614/gps-beats-speeding-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-18685</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time for all speed cameras to be tested according to the proper measurement regulations. NMI and NATA approved.
This is not the first case. &quot;Google&quot; Jerry Simotas and GPS and Goulbourn.
These things are misused, The RACV engineers have  been told to &quot;shut up&quot; by the &quot;Transparent&quot; Bracks government and all requests for actual operating manuals deneid. 
So &quot;pay up&quot;? NO WAY we aint gonna pay! Actually that would be a good catch cry.
See the website and youl&#039;l get the idea.
Were all being &quot;stiffed&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time for all speed cameras to be tested according to the proper measurement regulations. NMI and NATA approved.<br />
This is not the first case. &#8220;Google&#8221; Jerry Simotas and GPS and Goulbourn.<br />
These things are misused, The RACV engineers have  been told to &#8220;shut up&#8221; by the &#8220;Transparent&#8221; Bracks government and all requests for actual operating manuals deneid.<br />
So &#8220;pay up&#8221;? NO WAY we aint gonna pay! Actually that would be a good catch cry.<br />
See the website and youl&#8217;l get the idea.<br />
Were all being &#8220;stiffed&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 280zx</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3614/gps-beats-speeding-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-18635</link>
		<dc:creator>280zx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 03:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like bazza holding his car air freshner to me! As for a GPS i wish i could afford one but i dont think showing your GPS will help anyway so ill cop a fine and just pay it cant be f*(&amp;%^^%ed ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like bazza holding his car air freshner to me! As for a GPS i wish i could afford one but i dont think showing your GPS will help anyway so ill cop a fine and just pay it cant be f*(&amp;%^^%ed &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Squishy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squishy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alborz, probably more the issue is the idea that the actual message is incorrect at times.  For example, the Victorian police spokeswoman isn&#039;t &quot;reinforcing&quot; the point, she is contradicting it and saying that that GPS is not necessarily correct.

I actually forgot to bring up my own view on the topic earlier.  I, for one, would certainly never rely on my GPS device as surety against a speeding fine, and would certainly start looking for other representation and evidence.

GPS evidence is just that - evidence.  It is not the complete answer to the case, just like the reading from the police camera setup is simply evidence.  The difference is, the police camera is typically going to be more influential in persuading a court that you were speeding.  So certainly, I wouldn&#039;t go head to head with my GPS data against their photo - I would look for other things to back up my case.

The other thing to note is that having a GPS will only &#039;save&#039; you if you aren&#039;t actually speeding.  I personally have no doubts that the vast majority of speeding fines, especially those in well-travelled areas such as motorway tunnels and main roads, are accurate enough not to catch people who are travelling at or under the speed limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alborz, probably more the issue is the idea that the actual message is incorrect at times.  For example, the Victorian police spokeswoman isn&#8217;t &#8220;reinforcing&#8221; the point, she is contradicting it and saying that that GPS is not necessarily correct.</p>
<p>I actually forgot to bring up my own view on the topic earlier.  I, for one, would certainly never rely on my GPS device as surety against a speeding fine, and would certainly start looking for other representation and evidence.</p>
<p>GPS evidence is just that &#8211; evidence.  It is not the complete answer to the case, just like the reading from the police camera setup is simply evidence.  The difference is, the police camera is typically going to be more influential in persuading a court that you were speeding.  So certainly, I wouldn&#8217;t go head to head with my GPS data against their photo &#8211; I would look for other things to back up my case.</p>
<p>The other thing to note is that having a GPS will only &#8217;save&#8217; you if you aren&#8217;t actually speeding.  I personally have no doubts that the vast majority of speeding fines, especially those in well-travelled areas such as motorway tunnels and main roads, are accurate enough not to catch people who are travelling at or under the speed limit.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m going to carry a GPS with me in the car at all times from now on.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m going to carry a GPS with me in the car at all times from now on.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the feedback squishy

we are currently searching for an editor which will fix all our little problems! 

all posts get reviewed at the end of the day, sometimes spelling mistakes and grammatical errors go unseen at the time of posting, thanks for pointing them out, send through any further ones as well!

as for the speeding ticket in the other article, it has been 2 months since the ticket was sent back for a court appeal, we have not heard back! We will keep you posted one way or another!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the feedback squishy</p>
<p>we are currently searching for an editor which will fix all our little problems! </p>
<p>all posts get reviewed at the end of the day, sometimes spelling mistakes and grammatical errors go unseen at the time of posting, thanks for pointing them out, send through any further ones as well!</p>
<p>as for the speeding ticket in the other article, it has been 2 months since the ticket was sent back for a court appeal, we have not heard back! We will keep you posted one way or another!</p>
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		<title>By: troy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 years ago, I got off 2 speed camera tickets. What i did, was I had my car put on a chassis dyno at a vehicle engineers workshop and had a report which proved my speedo was out 7-8 kmh, and had since had my speedo replaced with a more accurate one. ( this was actually the truth too :)     )

I sent this report, along with a letter, to the head of traffic camera operations in brisbane.

2 weeks later i recieved a letter saying that the tickets had been withdrawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 years ago, I got off 2 speed camera tickets. What i did, was I had my car put on a chassis dyno at a vehicle engineers workshop and had a report which proved my speedo was out 7-8 kmh, and had since had my speedo replaced with a more accurate one. ( this was actually the truth too :)     )</p>
<p>I sent this report, along with a letter, to the head of traffic camera operations in brisbane.</p>
<p>2 weeks later i recieved a letter saying that the tickets had been withdrawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Squishy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squishy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alborz, just wondering what happened to the staff member who ended up in court, as mentioned in the linked article a couple of months back?

Editing issue - the quote from Victoria Police spokeswoman Natalie Webster does not reinforce the point made by the Opposition Transport spokesperson, it contradicts that point.  Mulder is saying that GPS demonstrates that the police are wrong.  Webster is saying that GPS is not something that you can rely on to demonstrate that.  They are taking completely opposite sides.

Spelling error of &#039;speedign&#039; in that paragraph too.

No offence to any of the writers, but in order to gain more credibility as a reliable source of information, this news blog will need to improve on its editing, both in terms of its spelling and grammar (not hard to put it into MS Word quickly before posting something) and in its ability to provide an accurate and coherent representation of the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alborz, just wondering what happened to the staff member who ended up in court, as mentioned in the linked article a couple of months back?</p>
<p>Editing issue &#8211; the quote from Victoria Police spokeswoman Natalie Webster does not reinforce the point made by the Opposition Transport spokesperson, it contradicts that point.  Mulder is saying that GPS demonstrates that the police are wrong.  Webster is saying that GPS is not something that you can rely on to demonstrate that.  They are taking completely opposite sides.</p>
<p>Spelling error of &#8217;speedign&#8217; in that paragraph too.</p>
<p>No offence to any of the writers, but in order to gain more credibility as a reliable source of information, this news blog will need to improve on its editing, both in terms of its spelling and grammar (not hard to put it into MS Word quickly before posting something) and in its ability to provide an accurate and coherent representation of the facts.</p>
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