to the people who think about doing that to me next time, i have a brake and rear end collisions are your fault.

i live in QLD brisbane and yesterday passed the test and got my licence. The amount of rules you must follow are hard to stick to but i agree they are for the best. The main thing that worries me is the fact that many “experienced” drivers obtained there licence a long time ago before the testing got so strict. On the way home i was watching all the cars outside my window and just about every driver was doing something wrong, whether it be speeding or some other illegal thing. Yet whenever i looked at the P plate and L plate drivers they were all doing the correct speed. i dunno about u guys but in my opinion if everyone who has an open licence had to resit the licecne test about 98% of them would fail it. many dont know simple things like the fact that when turning left from and intersection using the ” turn anytime with care” section u must be doing a maximum of 20k.

I am moving down to canberra on the 23rd of jan as i am a officer recruit of the Australian Defence Force Academy and am worried about the NSW laws as they seem to be evebn more strict then the QLD ones. Just before i go i must say that if this rule where p plate drivers can only go 90k is true you dont need to be isac newton to see that it is be one of the most stupid rules ever created.

Thanks everyone for putting up with my bitching :P

You completely missed the point, unless you educate all drivers then you will still have cars and trucks tailing your rear end.
If you think that just because your displaying P plates (in the most visible spot of course) that a car or truck that wants to get passed you on a single lane road or is in a hurry is not going to ride your tail end your dreaming! Seriously! Regardless of whether you are on P plates or not, if you on certain roads and not driving the limit people will sit up your ass. I challange you to try it a number of times and let us all know what the result is.

If you had that P plate displayed properly then the truck would know you could only drive 90 and leave you alone.

I have to say that it looks like NSW has lost the plot! Here are a few reasons why:

1) Forcing vulnerable young teenagers out of a vehicle in the middle of the morning is the most moronic idea you could think of. Do the NSW police call the parents of the people they intend on removing from the car and then wait with them until the parents pick them up? Remember these words and check your purse string Mr Premier, “DUTY OF CARE”.

2) Maximum speed limits; this is simply not going to work UNLESS you educate all drivers about this rule. There is going to be a number of issues whereby a P plater has their ass ridden by some complete DH of a driver that doesn’t understand that new rules.

3)Ban on mobile phone use; Okay this really does bemuse me, explain to me why I can use the indicator, increase the volume of my radio, turn on the A/C adjust where the air is coming from, open my sunroof, scratch my ass, BUT I cannot have a conversation on the phone. I agree that sending an sms is very distracting but having a conversation is very much normal.

So to sum it up here is my warning to all P platers.

1) If you have a family emergency between 11pm – 5am call a taxi, or make sure you have a tandem bike with a milk crate on the front handle bars. That will get 3 of you around

2) If you’re on a road that has a speed limit of 100 and you have to drive 90 get 5 or so single mattresses and strap them to the rear of your bumper, just to absorb the truck kissing your rear end.

3) If you get in a car DON’T under any circumstances touch anything but the steering wheel, the handbrake and the gear stick, because the government of NSW does not believe for a minute that you have enough brain power to do more than one thing at a time.

end rant!

I used them when i was on my P’s and never had a problem with them flying off. How are is it to take 10sec to check the plates are on the car ???

A) Cause traffic congestion as people (sometimes dangerously) merge into a single lane to bypass them;
B) Attract tail-gating as people get frustrated.

If anything this is likely to cause nervous P-plate drivers to take their eyes off the road and spend more time watching their rear view mirror (and speedo) while a truck is sitting up their ares.

Making us put the P plate on the outside of the car is silly. With the crap plastic ones the RTA supply all you can do is stuff them under a number plate which is far less visible than the one in the back window of my car. Yesterday I used the ones I have in my mums car for the occasions that I drive it (the magnetic ones), and on the on-ramp to the M4 the front one flew off. They don’t lend themselves well to some bonnet shapes. I stuck my window sticker P plate back on and have only the back magnetic one on atm. BUT, I need to take that off every time I get out of the car, because it will get stolen so fast.

Come to think of it, I forgot to take it off last night when I got home. It’s probably gone already…