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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3573/july-1-p-day/#comment-118894</link>
		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just move to perth :) Problem solved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just move to perth <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Problem solved!</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3573/july-1-p-day/#comment-118889</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more. Creating artificial speed differentials for learner and P drivers is insane. It has to be the most dangerous rule ever to slip into law. I&#039;m very happy we don&#039;t have those rules here in Queensland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Creating artificial speed differentials for learner and P drivers is insane. It has to be the most dangerous rule ever to slip into law. I&#8217;m very happy we don&#8217;t have those rules here in Queensland.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3573/july-1-p-day/#comment-49378</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am from QLD and am a learner. I am allowed to do the speed limit and when the limit drops to 80 on the highway for road works you would not believe the amount of people that try to a$$ end you. But i do agree with the learners and p-platers of NSW that speed limiting is very dangerous. If this can happen to me while it is the speed limit i really feel sorry for you guys who have to do it in a 100 zone. also i must say that i am sick of AH that give it a boot full and fly past you when you are sitting on 101 in a 100 zone just because you have a yellow sign in the back of your car. 

to the people who think about doing that to me next time, i have a brake and rear end collisions are your fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from QLD and am a learner. I am allowed to do the speed limit and when the limit drops to 80 on the highway for road works you would not believe the amount of people that try to a$$ end you. But i do agree with the learners and p-platers of NSW that speed limiting is very dangerous. If this can happen to me while it is the speed limit i really feel sorry for you guys who have to do it in a 100 zone. also i must say that i am sick of AH that give it a boot full and fly past you when you are sitting on 101 in a 100 zone just because you have a yellow sign in the back of your car. </p>
<p>to the people who think about doing that to me next time, i have a brake and rear end collisions are your fault.</p>
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		<title>By: luko</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3573/july-1-p-day/#comment-43712</link>
		<dc:creator>luko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey everyone,

i live in QLD brisbane and yesterday passed the test and got my licence. The amount of rules you must follow are hard to stick to but i agree they are for the best. The main thing that worries me is the fact that many &quot;experienced&quot; drivers obtained there licence a long time ago before the testing got so strict. On the way home i was watching all the cars outside my window and just about every driver was doing something wrong, whether it be speeding or some other illegal thing. Yet whenever i looked at the P plate and L plate drivers they were all  doing the correct speed. i dunno about u guys but in my opinion if everyone who has an open licence had to resit the licecne test about 98% of them would fail it. many dont know simple things like the fact  that when turning left from and intersection using the &quot; turn anytime with care&quot; section u must be doing a maximum of 20k. 

I am moving down to canberra on the 23rd of jan as i am a officer recruit of the Australian Defence Force Academy and am worried about the NSW laws as they seem to be evebn more strict then the QLD ones. Just before i go i must say that if this rule where p plate drivers can only go 90k is true you dont need to be isac newton to see that it is be one of the most stupid rules ever created.

Thanks everyone for putting up with my bitching :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey everyone,</p>
<p>i live in QLD brisbane and yesterday passed the test and got my licence. The amount of rules you must follow are hard to stick to but i agree they are for the best. The main thing that worries me is the fact that many &#8220;experienced&#8221; drivers obtained there licence a long time ago before the testing got so strict. On the way home i was watching all the cars outside my window and just about every driver was doing something wrong, whether it be speeding or some other illegal thing. Yet whenever i looked at the P plate and L plate drivers they were all  doing the correct speed. i dunno about u guys but in my opinion if everyone who has an open licence had to resit the licecne test about 98% of them would fail it. many dont know simple things like the fact  that when turning left from and intersection using the &#8221; turn anytime with care&#8221; section u must be doing a maximum of 20k. </p>
<p>I am moving down to canberra on the 23rd of jan as i am a officer recruit of the Australian Defence Force Academy and am worried about the NSW laws as they seem to be evebn more strict then the QLD ones. Just before i go i must say that if this rule where p plate drivers can only go 90k is true you dont need to be isac newton to see that it is be one of the most stupid rules ever created.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone for putting up with my bitching <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cozza</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3573/july-1-p-day/#comment-40852</link>
		<dc:creator>cozza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am wondering if there isa power restriction to qld p-platers? if there is what is it. i am really woried about this because ive been given a car from a family member who has done a few mods to it but not too many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am wondering if there isa power restriction to qld p-platers? if there is what is it. i am really woried about this because ive been given a car from a family member who has done a few mods to it but not too many.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Shankar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Shankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 12:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was stopped for a RBT and then pulled over as my back P plate wasnt there anymore while the front was clearly visible. While i am running late for work they copper strings me for 25 minutes laughing, then going forward and backwards then staring at my car as it is a red sports car then comming back to give me a fine of 179 dollars. Now i believe that is crazy i had always had my stick on plates in the front and back of my car but because of these stupid rules i have had my P plates stolen 5 times now. When explaining to the policeman this he said it is my responsibility and for my safety and for everyone elses safetly. I drive 680 kms a week to and from work including delivering pizzas and notice that the menaces on the roads are the full licenced drivers who get annoyed when they see P plate drivers. I believe that these laws need to be fixed as without it P platers will and should rise up to the beurocrats and screw em over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was stopped for a RBT and then pulled over as my back P plate wasnt there anymore while the front was clearly visible. While i am running late for work they copper strings me for 25 minutes laughing, then going forward and backwards then staring at my car as it is a red sports car then comming back to give me a fine of 179 dollars. Now i believe that is crazy i had always had my stick on plates in the front and back of my car but because of these stupid rules i have had my P plates stolen 5 times now. When explaining to the policeman this he said it is my responsibility and for my safety and for everyone elses safetly. I drive 680 kms a week to and from work including delivering pizzas and notice that the menaces on the roads are the full licenced drivers who get annoyed when they see P plate drivers. I believe that these laws need to be fixed as without it P platers will and should rise up to the beurocrats and screw em over.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3573/july-1-p-day/#comment-18470</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 07:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff, 

You completely missed the point, unless you educate all drivers then you will still have cars and trucks tailing your rear end. 
If you think that just because your displaying P plates (in the most visible spot of course) that a car or truck that wants to get passed you on a single lane road or is in a hurry is not going to ride your tail end your dreaming! Seriously! Regardless of whether you are on P plates or not, if you on certain roads and not driving the limit people will sit up your ass. I challange you to try it a number of times and let us all know what the result is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff, </p>
<p>You completely missed the point, unless you educate all drivers then you will still have cars and trucks tailing your rear end.<br />
If you think that just because your displaying P plates (in the most visible spot of course) that a car or truck that wants to get passed you on a single lane road or is in a hurry is not going to ride your tail end your dreaming! Seriously! Regardless of whether you are on P plates or not, if you on certain roads and not driving the limit people will sit up your ass. I challange you to try it a number of times and let us all know what the result is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3573/july-1-p-day/#comment-18454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey CJ

If you had that P plate displayed properly then the truck would know you could only drive 90 and leave you alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey CJ</p>
<p>If you had that P plate displayed properly then the truck would know you could only drive 90 and leave you alone.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3573/july-1-p-day/#comment-18453</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>start rant

I have to say that it looks like NSW has lost the plot! Here are a few reasons why:

1) Forcing vulnerable young teenagers out of a vehicle in the middle of the morning is the most moronic idea you could think of. Do the NSW police call the parents of the people they intend on removing from the car and then wait with them until the parents pick them up? Remember these words and check your purse string Mr Premier, &quot;DUTY OF CARE&quot;.

2) Maximum speed limits; this is simply not going to work UNLESS you educate all drivers about this rule. There is going to be a number of issues whereby a P plater has their ass ridden by some complete DH of a driver that doesn&#039;t understand that new rules. 

3)Ban on mobile phone use; Okay this really does bemuse me, explain to me why I can use the indicator, increase the volume of my radio, turn on the A/C adjust where the air is coming from, open my sunroof, scratch my ass, BUT I cannot have a conversation on the phone. I agree that sending an sms is very distracting but having a conversation is very much normal.

So to sum it up here is my warning to all P platers.

1) If you have a family emergency between 11pm - 5am call a taxi, or make sure you have a tandem bike with a milk crate on the front handle bars. That will get 3 of you around

2) If you’re on a road that has a speed limit of 100 and you have to drive 90 get 5 or so single mattresses and strap them to the rear of your bumper, just to absorb the truck kissing your rear end.

3) If you get in a car DON&#039;T under any circumstances touch anything but the steering wheel, the handbrake and the gear stick, because the government of NSW does not believe for a minute that you have enough brain power to do more than one thing at a time. 

end rant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>start rant</p>
<p>I have to say that it looks like NSW has lost the plot! Here are a few reasons why:</p>
<p>1) Forcing vulnerable young teenagers out of a vehicle in the middle of the morning is the most moronic idea you could think of. Do the NSW police call the parents of the people they intend on removing from the car and then wait with them until the parents pick them up? Remember these words and check your purse string Mr Premier, &#8220;DUTY OF CARE&#8221;.</p>
<p>2) Maximum speed limits; this is simply not going to work UNLESS you educate all drivers about this rule. There is going to be a number of issues whereby a P plater has their ass ridden by some complete DH of a driver that doesn&#8217;t understand that new rules. </p>
<p>3)Ban on mobile phone use; Okay this really does bemuse me, explain to me why I can use the indicator, increase the volume of my radio, turn on the A/C adjust where the air is coming from, open my sunroof, scratch my ass, BUT I cannot have a conversation on the phone. I agree that sending an sms is very distracting but having a conversation is very much normal.</p>
<p>So to sum it up here is my warning to all P platers.</p>
<p>1) If you have a family emergency between 11pm &#8211; 5am call a taxi, or make sure you have a tandem bike with a milk crate on the front handle bars. That will get 3 of you around</p>
<p>2) If you’re on a road that has a speed limit of 100 and you have to drive 90 get 5 or so single mattresses and strap them to the rear of your bumper, just to absorb the truck kissing your rear end.</p>
<p>3) If you get in a car DON&#8217;T under any circumstances touch anything but the steering wheel, the handbrake and the gear stick, because the government of NSW does not believe for a minute that you have enough brain power to do more than one thing at a time. </p>
<p>end rant!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3573/july-1-p-day/#comment-18452</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitchell Oke tyre one of these http://autoonecai.cart.net.au/details/171951.html

I used them when i was on my P&#039;s and never had a problem with them flying off.  How are is it to take 10sec to check the plates are on the car ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitchell Oke tyre one of these <a href="http://autoonecai.cart.net.au/details/171951.html" rel="nofollow">http://autoonecai.cart.net.au/details/171951.html</a></p>
<p>I used them when i was on my P&#8217;s and never had a problem with them flying off.  How are is it to take 10sec to check the plates are on the car ???</p>
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