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		<title>By: FrugalOne</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34846/kia-forte-lp1-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-163423</link>
		<dc:creator>FrugalOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did this vehicle perform in the Eco challenge?

Cheers,

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did this vehicle perform in the Eco challenge?</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34846/kia-forte-lp1-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-143208</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golfie,
I believe this IS LPG and battery only meaning the problem of having the tank in the boot CAN be solved</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golfie,<br />
I believe this IS LPG and battery only meaning the problem of having the tank in the boot CAN be solved</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalOne</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34846/kia-forte-lp1-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-143173</link>
		<dc:creator>FrugalOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s LPI not &quot;1&quot;

A bit more about it below, and as PER NORMAL you also publish the RRP in the manufacturers currency and then the today AUS convereted figure which of course changes all the time as the currency moves, so having the origonal currency can be worked out at a future time..Got it!

Available in three trim levels, LPI HEV will be priced at 20.5 million won (AUD$20,395^) for the entry level model and will top out at 23.2 million won (AUD$23,079^) for the top model. Prices include South Korean government consumption tax exemption which has a maximum benefit of 3.1 million won (AUD$3,084^).

And from before&gt;:

C/A its “LPI” NOT “LP1″ lol

I still find it hard to believe that Kia had perhaps THE biggest *issue* in Australian Automotive history with its V6 engine Carnival [total junkbox] and yet people still buy Kia’s?

Kia [Hyundai Australia] dont want to know about it, they have burned 1000’s of customers and yet have walked away scott free…..SCAM.

Should as a minimum offered each and every customer a $5000 credit to be applied to any new Kia purchased.

C/A do have a story on this said issue on its website, google it and you will find 100’s of pages in reference to it.

NEVER BUY A CARNIVAL!

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s LPI not &#8220;1&#8243;</p>
<p>A bit more about it below, and as PER NORMAL you also publish the RRP in the manufacturers currency and then the today AUS convereted figure which of course changes all the time as the currency moves, so having the origonal currency can be worked out at a future time..Got it!</p>
<p>Available in three trim levels, LPI HEV will be priced at 20.5 million won (AUD$20,395^) for the entry level model and will top out at 23.2 million won (AUD$23,079^) for the top model. Prices include South Korean government consumption tax exemption which has a maximum benefit of 3.1 million won (AUD$3,084^).</p>
<p>And from before&gt;:</p>
<p>C/A its “LPI” NOT “LP1″ lol</p>
<p>I still find it hard to believe that Kia had perhaps THE biggest *issue* in Australian Automotive history with its V6 engine Carnival [total junkbox] and yet people still buy Kia’s?</p>
<p>Kia [Hyundai Australia] dont want to know about it, they have burned 1000’s of customers and yet have walked away scott free…..SCAM.</p>
<p>Should as a minimum offered each and every customer a $5000 credit to be applied to any new Kia purchased.</p>
<p>C/A do have a story on this said issue on its website, google it and you will find 100’s of pages in reference to it.</p>
<p>NEVER BUY A CARNIVAL!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34846/kia-forte-lp1-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-143135</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Accountant, and keen environmentalist, i am impressed by the advanced Lithium battery and LPG combo. The long term cost of a car is dictated by fuel cost. This babt makes economic sense, and i like the look of it. Most of all my partner liked the look of it and she had no idea it was an eco friendly car.

Provided the car will do 350,000 kms plus before engine overhaul, battery replacement, this is cheap motoring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Accountant, and keen environmentalist, i am impressed by the advanced Lithium battery and LPG combo. The long term cost of a car is dictated by fuel cost. This babt makes economic sense, and i like the look of it. Most of all my partner liked the look of it and she had no idea it was an eco friendly car.</p>
<p>Provided the car will do 350,000 kms plus before engine overhaul, battery replacement, this is cheap motoring.</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew M, if this car runs solely on gas and electricity, then it&#039;ll be brilliant. If the tank is sited under the boot floor, score 10. If it&#039;s mounted IN the boot, from Golfschwein&#039;s eyes there shall run tears.

The stench of cottage industry still hangs heavily over LPG. I recognise that Ford do it better than just about everyone, and it works brilliantly if you&#039;ve got a car like yours. But I don&#039;t see the sense in taking your large Falcon Or Commy to Malaga Gas Conversions and have them convert it into something that&#039;s, um...useless. If you want a car with a 500 litre boot that suddenly becomes a 350 litre boot or, worse, a wagon that you can&#039;t load stuff into coz ya went out and got all cheap on us, then I can show you something with a 350 litre boot and lower fuel costs from the factory - my Golf.

KIA could do more for LPG cars than anyone else, but only if they&#039;ve addressed the practical issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew M, if this car runs solely on gas and electricity, then it&#8217;ll be brilliant. If the tank is sited under the boot floor, score 10. If it&#8217;s mounted IN the boot, from Golfschwein&#8217;s eyes there shall run tears.</p>
<p>The stench of cottage industry still hangs heavily over LPG. I recognise that Ford do it better than just about everyone, and it works brilliantly if you&#8217;ve got a car like yours. But I don&#8217;t see the sense in taking your large Falcon Or Commy to Malaga Gas Conversions and have them convert it into something that&#8217;s, um&#8230;useless. If you want a car with a 500 litre boot that suddenly becomes a 350 litre boot or, worse, a wagon that you can&#8217;t load stuff into coz ya went out and got all cheap on us, then I can show you something with a 350 litre boot and lower fuel costs from the factory &#8211; my Golf.</p>
<p>KIA could do more for LPG cars than anyone else, but only if they&#8217;ve addressed the practical issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>still waiting on price........

I think it would struggle to get on road for under 30K as some are suggesting

For starters its low 20&#039;s for a base unleaded.
Add to that your typical 4K for a decent LPG system,
Whats hybrid tech worth??? at least another 4K (and yes thats with out gouging it)
Possibly an Auto only as this sort of thing usually is......thats another 2K

Thats already broken 30K before any price gouging or extra developmental costs are applied, But being Kia, they wont load it.
Either way suggestions of 25K are dreams.
But if my pie comes to me, ill eat it

Lets hope its a real goer.
This could possibly be the first time one of the looked down on vehicle companies got a great jump on the main gamers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still waiting on price&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I think it would struggle to get on road for under 30K as some are suggesting</p>
<p>For starters its low 20&#8217;s for a base unleaded.<br />
Add to that your typical 4K for a decent LPG system,<br />
Whats hybrid tech worth??? at least another 4K (and yes thats with out gouging it)<br />
Possibly an Auto only as this sort of thing usually is&#8230;&#8230;thats another 2K</p>
<p>Thats already broken 30K before any price gouging or extra developmental costs are applied, But being Kia, they wont load it.<br />
Either way suggestions of 25K are dreams.<br />
But if my pie comes to me, ill eat it</p>
<p>Lets hope its a real goer.<br />
This could possibly be the first time one of the looked down on vehicle companies got a great jump on the main gamers</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golfie,
If the silver tank in the boot is your deal breaker, then you have only opened your mind to duel fuel.

Take it one further and you will see a shiny silver tank could be placed under the car where the unleaded tank would once lie, in exactlly the same fashion that the only LPG dedicated vehicle on our roads does........Falcon

But in saying that, would be interesting to see if they stick a silver bullet shape tankin this, or fork a few more dollars and go for one of the fan-dangle ones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golfie,<br />
If the silver tank in the boot is your deal breaker, then you have only opened your mind to duel fuel.</p>
<p>Take it one further and you will see a shiny silver tank could be placed under the car where the unleaded tank would once lie, in exactlly the same fashion that the only LPG dedicated vehicle on our roads does&#8230;&#8230;..Falcon</p>
<p>But in saying that, would be interesting to see if they stick a silver bullet shape tankin this, or fork a few more dollars and go for one of the fan-dangle ones</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vid_Ghost^^^^

Its KIA not KAI! :-)

I believe the said hybrid Cerato is also called LPI and NOT LP1, a C/A issue that you copied wrong!

At the end of the day its still going to be priced extra over the std. ULP but it MUST be the same amount [or less!] as a DIEsel is extra over the ULP version.Otherwise dont bother with it, unless you want to feel *green* as per its horid colour show!

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vid_Ghost^^^^</p>
<p>Its KIA not KAI! :-)</p>
<p>I believe the said hybrid Cerato is also called LPI and NOT LP1, a C/A issue that you copied wrong!</p>
<p>At the end of the day its still going to be priced extra over the std. ULP but it MUST be the same amount [or less!] as a DIEsel is extra over the ULP version.Otherwise dont bother with it, unless you want to feel *green* as per its horid colour show!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: Vid_Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34846/kia-forte-lp1-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-142440</link>
		<dc:creator>Vid_Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golfschwein 

+1  Yep wer are Australian :)... 

KAI is on a roll hope this car come out sooner rather then later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golfschwein </p>
<p>+1  Yep wer are Australian :)&#8230; </p>
<p>KAI is on a roll hope this car come out sooner rather then later.</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, hi there Evcarco. Thanks for the spam. Small point to make, Luv. This is an A-u-s-t-r-a-l-i-a-n website. That&#039;s right...this website and its readers are in STRAYA. I&#039;m sure we&#039;d lovce to fall off our chairs and call your little company on 877 Coast to Coast whatever, but you&#039;re in Amurrrrica and that just makes it a teensy weensy impractical and irrelevant to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hi there Evcarco. Thanks for the spam. Small point to make, Luv. This is an A-u-s-t-r-a-l-i-a-n website. That&#8217;s right&#8230;this website and its readers are in STRAYA. I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;d lovce to fall off our chairs and call your little company on 877 Coast to Coast whatever, but you&#8217;re in Amurrrrica and that just makes it a teensy weensy impractical and irrelevant to us.</p>
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		<title>By: NacaYoda</title>
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		<dc:creator>NacaYoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll come to Oz. No doubt. Australia could prove their biggest market.

Price will be the only thing that could hold them back. I&#039;d expect $29,990 driveaway for the base model at launch. A few dollars more for the extras... but I&#039;d expect the whole range under $30k within 12-18 months during sale periods.
They go that way, they&#039;ll walk out of dealerships.
If reliability backs up their technology, they&#039;ll rule the roost until the Big Two catch up with a similar product in a few years time (if ever?).

ps Yanzo: 5.5lt per 100kms of LPG is a LOT cheaper than the cost of diesel! Try HALF PRICE. And a similar cut in emmissions no doubt also. I&#039;ll take one of these over a 4.0lt deisel anyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll come to Oz. No doubt. Australia could prove their biggest market.</p>
<p>Price will be the only thing that could hold them back. I&#8217;d expect $29,990 driveaway for the base model at launch. A few dollars more for the extras&#8230; but I&#8217;d expect the whole range under $30k within 12-18 months during sale periods.<br />
They go that way, they&#8217;ll walk out of dealerships.<br />
If reliability backs up their technology, they&#8217;ll rule the roost until the Big Two catch up with a similar product in a few years time (if ever?).</p>
<p>ps Yanzo: 5.5lt per 100kms of LPG is a LOT cheaper than the cost of diesel! Try HALF PRICE. And a similar cut in emmissions no doubt also. I&#8217;ll take one of these over a 4.0lt deisel anyday.</p>
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		<title>By: EVCARCO INC</title>
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		<dc:creator>EVCARCO INC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it!
EVCARCO is an automotive retail group dedicated to deploying a coast-to-coast network of environmentally-friendly dealerships with an exclusive inventory of new electric cars, pre-owned hybrids, alternative fuel vehicles and hybrid systems. 877.693.8227 (877-MYEVCAR)... Electric Car - ZENN - Wheego - Kandi - Venta are now available. EVCARCO INC, We are all about change!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it!<br />
EVCARCO is an automotive retail group dedicated to deploying a coast-to-coast network of environmentally-friendly dealerships with an exclusive inventory of new electric cars, pre-owned hybrids, alternative fuel vehicles and hybrid systems. 877.693.8227 (877-MYEVCAR)&#8230; Electric Car &#8211; ZENN &#8211; Wheego &#8211; Kandi &#8211; Venta are now available. EVCARCO INC, We are all about change!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a correction CA, its LPI, not LP1. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a correction CA, its LPI, not LP1. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks brilliant, so long as they&#039;ve found a solution to strapping a giant silver tank to the inside of the boot. That&#039;s always been a deal blower when it comes to LPG, for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks brilliant, so long as they&#8217;ve found a solution to strapping a giant silver tank to the inside of the boot. That&#8217;s always been a deal blower when it comes to LPG, for me.</p>
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		<title>By: cookie-biscuit</title>
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		<dc:creator>cookie-biscuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the love child of a falcon and an accord.</description>
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		<title>By: Jake02</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic car, so simple and easy you wonder how the hell someone only just thought of this now. KIA (as well as Hyundai with the Elantra version) have to release this car here as we need to use more of these resources available (like I think all buses should run on CNG - there&#039;s almost infinite amounts available to us just sitting there!) to us and lessen our dependancy on Fossil Fuels.

This is the hybrid which people will buy because (if they price it right) it&#039;s a normal car (unlike Prius and Insight) it&#039;s costs are alot less than petrol-powered versions and it&#039;s a much better idea than a petrol hybrid. This makes me want a diesel hybrid quite alot now though...

Tony if you look at the middle pic it is the SLi spec with the 17 inch alloys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic car, so simple and easy you wonder how the hell someone only just thought of this now. KIA (as well as Hyundai with the Elantra version) have to release this car here as we need to use more of these resources available (like I think all buses should run on CNG &#8211; there&#8217;s almost infinite amounts available to us just sitting there!) to us and lessen our dependancy on Fossil Fuels.</p>
<p>This is the hybrid which people will buy because (if they price it right) it&#8217;s a normal car (unlike Prius and Insight) it&#8217;s costs are alot less than petrol-powered versions and it&#8217;s a much better idea than a petrol hybrid. This makes me want a diesel hybrid quite alot now though&#8230;</p>
<p>Tony if you look at the middle pic it is the SLi spec with the 17 inch alloys.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to last month!

Needs to kick of @ $&quot;2&quot;*,*** THEN they have themselves a surefirer winner!

Cheers,


F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to last month!</p>
<p>Needs to kick of @ $&#8221;2&#8243;*,*** THEN they have themselves a surefirer winner!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: Yanzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yanzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gamma... that doesn&#039;t sound good. some diesels do better fuel then that but i&#039;m likeing the colour and front bumper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gamma&#8230; that doesn&#8217;t sound good. some diesels do better fuel then that but i&#8217;m likeing the colour and front bumper</p>
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		<title>By: milobob</title>
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		<dc:creator>milobob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please please bring it here where we desperately need to use up our LPG reserves :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please please bring it here where we desperately need to use up our LPG reserves :D</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34846/kia-forte-lp1-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-142258</link>
		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really want one in red. That is an awesome car for the money and the consumption would blow those so called world saviours out of the water. (Prius and Insight are cowering in the corner.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want one in red. That is an awesome car for the money and the consumption would blow those so called world saviours out of the water. (Prius and Insight are cowering in the corner.)</p>
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