Comments on: Cruze proves popular in UK

By: Paul Doubya

Paul Doubya — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:05:10 +0000

Yep, owned a Holden once, yep owned a Mitsubishi as well, both crap and luckily for me the late 90′s holden caught on fire because of poorly installed fuel injectors and the Mitsubishi was killed in a hail storm.

I wish some commentators here would stop making out GM is competent and worthy of saving or even deserves people handing over hard earned cash for its under engineered tatt. If they made a decent effort in the past you would give them a chance, but how long do you give them?

You can make a bad cake look nice with nice icing, to me it (Cruze) seems nicely painted and even reasonably well finished on TV, as a new model, but suffer the poor joker who buys it second hand or even third hand and the thing needs a full overhaul because of the poor components used or you might be lucky like me that the poor quality components were poorly screwed in and the thing catches on fire and you pocket the insurance and purchase something from a manufacturer who has an idea about quality.

Just because it is Korean, Australian, Brazilian, Thai etc does not mean necessarily mean poor quality, it depends on the core engineering of the individual company who screwed it together, GM is bankrupt and will sell you a camel if it could get away with it. I pity those who think it will last, its not the first time people have baught cars by a dying car maker and found the first few years OK, after the warranty expires the tune will change, GM are known for their top shelf warranty programs – NOT!!!!!

By: Azza

Azza — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:34:09 +0000

Tomas79:
“Deawoo, is still at the arse end of the spectrum when compared to other Korean Cars such as Hyundai and Kia…”

I agree 100%, just look at the sales comparisons, the safety rating of the all round model ranges of all car makes from Korea, not to mention fuel economy. Daewoo is the lesser of those makes, Kia released the Cerato (TD) which does look really quite nice, has really good fuel economy, which is supposedly 6.1Ltrs/100km. Hyundai have the semi-new i30 (SLX), despite it’s lack of power (which is still more than the Cruze) is still a nice car with really good fuel economy 9.3Ltrs/100km. Both of these car makes are leagues ahead of Daewoo. The only reason GM wants anything to do with them is because they are cheapest thing they can get, and make a profit on.

And yes I am aware that having said that, the Cruze’s fuel economy is also 9.3ltrs/100kms, but I’m sticking with what I said, as it is across the whole model range from those car makes. That and the Cruze’s engine size is smaller than the comparison.

By: forza m

forza m — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:32:40 +0000

my point is no body cares what your point is

By: Wheelnut®™

Wheelnut®™ — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:17:46 +0000

Andrew – take a look in the back section of any issue of Motor or Wheels or any other major car magazines where they list the car prices and specifications etc of the various makes and models of cars and see if you can find the marque “GM”

Wheels: ….Dodge; Elfin; Ferrari; Fist; Ford; FPV; Holden; HSV; Honda …. No! No “GM” listed there

Top Gear: ….Dodge; Ferrari; Fiat; Ford; Honda; Hyundai…. No! no “GM” There either

I mena Fuji Heavy Industries aren’t a car manufacturer However; they own Subaru which does make cars and is a recognised Marque…. That is my Point

By: Shak

Shak — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:33:58 +0000

Liquidator many people actually dont want to see Holden fail. Just because at one pint in time only bogans bought them they become the Bogan car maker. its because of simple minded people like you that Holden is trying to shake off that image. By your logic only Nazi’s drive Mercedes’. Get some more scope when it comes to maufacturing. Your grandchildren will probably be driving around in Geely’s and they’ll like them.
Lomg live Australia’s car industry.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:20:08 +0000

Wheelnut®™

You CAN by a car with a GM badge on it, in fact all of GM’s cars sold in the US wear the GM excellence badge.

By: 360,351,350

360,351,350 — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:17:20 +0000

The Liquidator – Sounds like someone liquidated your brain.

By: Wheelnut®™

Wheelnut®™ — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:20:31 +0000

The Liquidator – As a matter of interest.. how do you come to the conclusion that “the direction most of us want to see Holden move in is towards bankruptcy and liquidation.”

Or are you just trying to pass of your opinion as Fact as so many other people on this site who love to Bag Holden do?

By: Wheelnut®™

Wheelnut®™ — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:00:12 +0000

The Liquidator – That is true However; given that of late the courts have been handing down extremely light gaol sentences or a small fine; not to mention that a number of States around Australia have introduced anti-hoon laws where they will confiscate and even crush cars

Therefore if the “Enemy” are deprived of their Transport [Holdens} they will most likely resort to stealing cars belonging to the Victors.. which means that you could lose your Lexus BMW Merc-Benz etc

By: The Liquidator

The Liquidator — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:30:55 +0000

Shak, the direction most of us want to see Holden move in is towards bankruptcy and liquidation. This is really a class war against the bogan and lower classes. Deny the enemy of their transport…and you’ve won the battle!