Comments on: Mitsubishi to build the Sportback Concept http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/ Resource for Car Reviews, News, Advice, Road Tests, Green Cars, Hybrids Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:00:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kenny http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18289 Kenny Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:46:33 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18289 Damo I think we will be getting the next generation 380 in 2010. The US will get it sometime in 2008 as a 2009 Model. Will the 380 get the 3.8 Mivec engine in the next month update? It's bit of a shame if they won't put ESP in the next update. Damo I think we will be getting the next generation 380 in 2010. The US will get it sometime in 2008 as a 2009 Model.
Will the 380 get the 3.8 Mivec engine in the next month update? It’s bit of a shame if they won’t put ESP in the next update.

]]> By: Damo http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18280 Damo Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:43:03 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18280 No, I was speaking of a completely new model which would eb dew in late 2008-2009 from what I have been told. But from what I now know, the update next month, has slightly updated grille/headlights/ and taillights, and rear bumper. New paint colours (obviously), an updated and classier interior, it is not supposed to be getting ESP from what I have been told, but curtain airbags are likely to become standard, so it will receive a five star safety rating regardless. Let's just see how accurate my sources are, hey? No, I was speaking of a completely new model which would eb dew in late 2008-2009 from what I have been told. But from what I now know, the update next month, has slightly updated grille/headlights/ and taillights, and rear bumper. New paint colours (obviously), an updated and classier interior, it is not supposed to be getting ESP from what I have been told, but curtain airbags are likely to become standard, so it will receive a five star safety rating regardless. Let’s just see how accurate my sources are, hey?

]]> By: Kenny http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18234 Kenny Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:50:01 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18234 Damo Mitsubishi is in the black now, I think they made a profit last financial year(I think the Japanese financial year ending in March). What 380 update are you referring to is it the update to be released next month? Damo Mitsubishi is in the black now, I think they made a profit last financial year(I think the Japanese financial year ending in March). What 380 update are you referring to is it the update to be released next month?

]]> By: Kenny http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18232 Kenny Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:56:24 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18232 This Steve character sounds lot like a guy I knew at work. He had couple of bikes a 20 year old Jag. He used bag Mitsubishi, quite a lot of his stories were imaginary, like nearly every morning he has a story of passing a broken down Mitsu (if you count all these stories nearly every Mitsu sold in Aus breaks down & Steve know about it). Co incidentally that guy’s name is also Steve. This Steve character sounds lot like a guy I knew at work. He had couple of bikes a 20 year old Jag. He used bag Mitsubishi, quite a lot of his stories were imaginary, like nearly every morning he has a story of passing a broken down Mitsu (if you count all these stories nearly every Mitsu sold in Aus breaks down & Steve know about it).
Co incidentally that guy’s name is also Steve.

]]> By: Damo http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18220 Damo Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:34:03 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18220 Paul pretty much summed up what I was trying to say, but I clearly drifted off somewhere in my comment. Basically though, it is odd to find any problems at all with a Mitsubishi, as their build quality is on par witht hat of Toyota overall. Paul pretty much summed up what I was trying to say, but I clearly drifted off somewhere in my comment. Basically though, it is odd to find any problems at all with a Mitsubishi, as their build quality is on par witht hat of Toyota overall.

]]> By: Paul http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18213 Paul Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:42:06 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18213 Steve is just telling us his experiences... everyone has different experiences with cars and its useful to hear. He may have been unlucky with Mitbuishis or those who have had good experiences might have been lucky to have no problems. Steve is just telling us his experiences… everyone has different experiences with cars and its useful to hear. He may have been unlucky with Mitbuishis or those who have had good experiences might have been lucky to have no problems.

]]> By: Damo http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18209 Damo Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:30:40 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18209 LOL, nah let's not bash Steve, he generally makes decent posts, but I and most of you don't agree with his posts. I agree that he may have came across a dodgy Mitsubishi, but to come across so many is such a coincidence as their reliability overall is as good as Toyota and Lexus. Dam, when they get back into the black for a few years, they should start another brand, a luxury one. We all know they cannot go bankrupt with over 100 different ally companies, including the main bank of Japan, but it is only some time until they get their design right, and they start making huge profits, and with great cars like this being released why shouldn't they? By the way, you should here about the 380 replacement expected in the next 24-30 months. Most likely have the same name, but will be either the DD or DE 380, the current is DB 380 of course. I'm not going to say anymore from the info I have received but a fair bit will come out within the next 18 months anyway,a nd it is not dissapointing. LOL, nah let’s not bash Steve, he generally makes decent posts, but I and most of you don’t agree with his posts. I agree that he may have came across a dodgy Mitsubishi, but to come across so many is such a coincidence as their reliability overall is as good as Toyota and Lexus. Dam, when they get back into the black for a few years, they should start another brand, a luxury one. We all know they cannot go bankrupt with over 100 different ally companies, including the main bank of Japan, but it is only some time until they get their design right, and they start making huge profits, and with great cars like this being released why shouldn’t they? By the way, you should here about the 380 replacement expected in the next 24-30 months. Most likely have the same name, but will be either the DD or DE 380, the current is DB 380 of course. I’m not going to say anymore from the info I have received but a fair bit will come out within the next 18 months anyway,a nd it is not dissapointing.

]]> By: Kenny http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18173 Kenny Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:17:14 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18173 I think this Steve fellow is over the top Mitsubishi hater. In US & Europe there have been extensive car reliability survey carried out. Most of these surveys indicate Toyota to be the Most reliable then followed by other Japanese manufactures including Mitsubishi, then the Korean manufactures, the German manufactures etc At the bottom of these survey results are the US car giants like GM, Ford, Chrysler, UK brands like Jaguar, Land rover etc. From all these surveys there isn’t any evidence to show that Mitsubishi models seem to have any reliability issues. Mitsubishis may have had problems in the 70s & 80s, lot of it is attributed to Chrysler components used on earlier Mitsubishis I think this Steve fellow is over the top Mitsubishi hater. In US & Europe there have been extensive car reliability survey carried out. Most of these surveys indicate Toyota to be the Most reliable then followed by other Japanese manufactures including Mitsubishi, then the Korean manufactures, the German manufactures etc
At the bottom of these survey results are the US car giants like GM, Ford, Chrysler, UK brands like Jaguar, Land rover etc.

From all these surveys there isn’t any evidence to show that Mitsubishi models seem to have any reliability issues.

Mitsubishis may have had problems in the 70s & 80s, lot of it is attributed to Chrysler components used on earlier Mitsubishis

]]> By: Kenny http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18171 Kenny Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:12:57 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18171 Lets ask what is Steve driving? Is it a very reliable, economical, safe & green car like a Toyota Prius? I think Steve drives an ancient unreliable Gas guzzler, producing heaps of green house gases. I recently saw results of an ACNielsen new car reliability & satisfaction survey of new car buyers. Every Mitsubishi model was above the average reliability level, some models like Outlander & Colt were the most reliable in those segments. These results are similar with reliability surveys carried out in US by JD Powers. Lets ask what is Steve driving? Is it a very reliable, economical, safe & green car like a Toyota Prius? I think Steve drives an ancient unreliable Gas guzzler, producing heaps of green house gases.

I recently saw results of an ACNielsen new car reliability & satisfaction survey of new car buyers. Every Mitsubishi model was above the average reliability level, some models like Outlander & Colt were the most reliable in those segments. These results are similar with reliability surveys carried out in US by JD Powers.

]]> By: Kenny http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18170 Kenny Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:50:57 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18170 I think Steve’s stories are all imaginary stories to bash Mitsubishis, We have owned 4 Mitsubishi’s. the first was a 96 TE Magna had it for 9 year with 260,000 ks only logbook services & a battery replacement, then a 02 Verada for 5 years with 75,000 ks just log book services & 1 keyless entry remote unit, then an 05 Outlander for 2 years with 25,000 ks just logbook services, a two month old Pajero with 1500 ks without any problem. My dad had a 86 Lancer for 14 years with 300,000 ks without any problems. I think Steve is just bad mouthing Mitsubishi with imaginary stories. I think Steve’s stories are all imaginary stories to bash Mitsubishis, We have owned 4 Mitsubishi’s. the first was a 96 TE Magna had it for 9 year with 260,000 ks only logbook services & a battery replacement, then a 02 Verada for 5 years with 75,000 ks just log book services & 1 keyless entry remote unit, then an 05 Outlander for 2 years with 25,000 ks just logbook services, a two month old Pajero with 1500 ks without any problem.

My dad had a 86 Lancer for 14 years with 300,000 ks without any problems. I think Steve is just bad mouthing Mitsubishi with imaginary stories.

]]> By: steve http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18168 steve Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:13:03 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18168 It wasn't my personal experience, just things I noticed and was told about by mates who experienced this. I do take part in a fair bit of Mutsu bashing. The problem is, once a brand gets this sort of stigma (Not Sigma - I joke)... it's hard to bounce back, regardless of how good your next offering is. I too wouldn't buy a Holden. Same reasons as above. I guess a lot of manufacturers will have some failures, lemons, etc. But when you look at one brand and know so many people with issues after owning the cars. You tend to make a mental note and the decision not to lay down your hard earnt dosh for an inferior quality product. Steve It wasn’t my personal experience, just things I noticed and was told about by mates who experienced this.

I do take part in a fair bit of Mutsu bashing. The problem is, once a brand gets this sort of stigma (Not Sigma – I joke)… it’s hard to bounce back, regardless of how good your next offering is.

I too wouldn’t buy a Holden. Same reasons as above.

I guess a lot of manufacturers will have some failures, lemons, etc. But when you look at one brand and know so many people with issues after owning the cars. You tend to make a mental note and the decision not to lay down your hard earnt dosh for an inferior quality product.

Steve

]]> By: Shaun_180sx http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18162 Shaun_180sx Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:18:23 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18162 Have a '83 Sigma (400,000+ kms) and '98 Magna. The Sigma finally had a rebuild a year ago but it was only to freshen the driving experience. Neither car has ever broken down and have only needed the expected repairs and maintenance over the years. In my experience, it's mostly about regular maintenance and a bit of luck. About Japanese cars... According to a recent RAA article on a major study on build quality after 4 years Toyota/Lexus are rated as the leaders with Honda also near the top. Suprisingly one of the worst are Mercedes. Have a ‘83 Sigma (400,000+ kms) and ‘98 Magna. The Sigma finally had a rebuild a year ago but it was only to freshen the driving experience. Neither car has ever broken down and have only needed the expected repairs and maintenance over the years. In my experience, it’s mostly about regular maintenance and a bit of luck.

About Japanese cars…
According to a recent RAA article on a major study on build quality after 4 years Toyota/Lexus are rated as the leaders with Honda also near the top. Suprisingly one of the worst are Mercedes.

]]> By: Damo http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18159 Damo Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:00:23 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18159 tranny not tanny tranny not tanny

]]> By: Damo http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18158 Damo Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:00:04 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18158 Lol, don't even talk about Holdens. We had the tanny go twice, a cracked head, electric windows, keys, dodgy alarms, glove box hinges, seats, aerial motors, boot struts, boot locks, alarm systems, and even more issues occur with my parents VS a good decade ago. We only had it for 5 years too! Terrible car, if I were older back then I would have remembered even more. Oh yes, the climate control, fan belt, even more, LOL it was the more expensive Berlina as memory serves, the car cost almost 10k in repairs when we sold it, none of which the warranty covered for some stupid reason. There were also issues witht he cruise control, fuses and battery connections, interior lights, diagnostic malfunctions (all those lights on the dashboard), and I am still positive there were more issues. Now that, that single experience can top any negative feeling or experience in a Magna, a Mitsubishi, even in say, a Hyundai, or dare I say Daewoo! LOL Lol, don’t even talk about Holdens. We had the tanny go twice, a cracked head, electric windows, keys, dodgy alarms, glove box hinges, seats, aerial motors, boot struts, boot locks, alarm systems, and even more issues occur with my parents VS a good decade ago. We only had it for 5 years too! Terrible car, if I were older back then I would have remembered even more. Oh yes, the climate control, fan belt, even more, LOL it was the more expensive Berlina as memory serves, the car cost almost 10k in repairs when we sold it, none of which the warranty covered for some stupid reason. There were also issues witht he cruise control, fuses and battery connections, interior lights, diagnostic malfunctions (all those lights on the dashboard), and I am still positive there were more issues. Now that, that single experience can top any negative feeling or experience in a Magna, a Mitsubishi, even in say, a Hyundai, or dare I say Daewoo! LOL

]]> By: Paul http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18147 Paul Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:57:43 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18147 ^ Lol Ive heard stories about Magnas! But I think you cant totally write of a brand, even brands dare I say it like Holden who have had major issues in the past... times change! And Mitsubishi are offering class leading warranties these days so any fears are put to rest. ^

Lol Ive heard stories about Magnas! But I think you cant totally write of a brand, even brands dare I say it like Holden who have had major issues in the past… times change! And Mitsubishi are offering class leading warranties these days so any fears are put to rest.

]]> By: Damo http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18140 Damo Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:28:46 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18140 Pfft... Obviously bad karma, seeing how you never say a good work about ol' Mr. Bishi. Nah, I'm kidding, but that is immensely odd, because my parents car, an '01 Verada, had never had a single issue, apart from a dead battery which doesn't count but lasted 4.5 years from the factory, and just a minor issue with the aircon fan 4 months ago which was 300 but the dealer did it for free, as well as our rotors, really odd. But yeah, I'm going to put it down on bad karma for your bad experiences with Mr.Bishi...LOL Loving this car by the way. Pfft… Obviously bad karma, seeing how you never say a good work about ol’ Mr. Bishi.
Nah, I’m kidding, but that is immensely odd, because my parents car, an ‘01 Verada, had never had a single issue, apart from a dead battery which doesn’t count but lasted 4.5 years from the factory, and just a minor issue with the aircon fan 4 months ago which was 300 but the dealer did it for free, as well as our rotors, really odd. But yeah, I’m going to put it down on bad karma for your bad experiences with Mr.Bishi…LOL
Loving this car by the way.

]]> By: steve http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18133 steve Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:24:25 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18133 Are you going to be recruiting people to review and write for Bikeadvice too? I'll email you later with some background and history. ;) Regarding the Mitsubish. I refuse to believe any Mitsu is a good car. Not personally experienced in owning one. But I've just seen too many mates and neighbours get bitten. Mate's Lancer (there are all brand new btw), started to cause his issues after the first service. Charging issues, then the radio, then the power steering. Electrical faults became so back that the car was dangerous to drive. Neighbours had a Pajero (they got back from their camping trip in a bus, and the tow truck behind with the car stuck in 4wd. They fixed it, for a large sum of money (transfer case rebuilt - 2 months out of warranty). Then the welsh plug started to leak. Which one? the one at the back of the engine against the firewall. :( It leaked every fluid that it attempted to hold. I'll go on with similar stories, but I won't in aid of sounding like a broken record player. I won't take my chances on one. I'd rather buy a Corolla. Yes, that's what I think of Mitsubishi. Steve Are you going to be recruiting people to review and write for Bikeadvice too?

I’ll email you later with some background and history. ;)

Regarding the Mitsubish. I refuse to believe any Mitsu is a good car. Not personally experienced in owning one. But I’ve just seen too many mates and neighbours get bitten.

Mate’s Lancer (there are all brand new btw), started to cause his issues after the first service. Charging issues, then the radio, then the power steering. Electrical faults became so back that the car was dangerous to drive.

Neighbours had a Pajero (they got back from their camping trip in a bus, and the tow truck behind with the car stuck in 4wd. They fixed it, for a large sum of money (transfer case rebuilt – 2 months out of warranty). Then the welsh plug started to leak. Which one? the one at the back of the engine against the firewall. :(

It leaked every fluid that it attempted to hold.

I’ll go on with similar stories, but I won’t in aid of sounding like a broken record player.

I won’t take my chances on one. I’d rather buy a Corolla. Yes, that’s what I think of Mitsubishi.

Steve

]]> By: alborz http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18111 alborz Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:27:26 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18111 working on it :) working on it :)

]]> By: Lazybones http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18110 Lazybones Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:25:59 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18110 BikeAdvice!!, your going for the world domination thing!! How about anythingwithanengineadvice.com.au? BikeAdvice!!, your going for the world domination thing!! How about anythingwithanengineadvice.com.au?

]]> By: alborz http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18101 alborz Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:59:19 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/3448/mitsubishi-to-build-the-lancer-sportsback/#comment-18101 correct LayzBones, we are working on BikeAdvice too ;) correct LayzBones, we are working on BikeAdvice too ;)

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