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	<title>Comments on: China submits bid for Opel/Vauxhall &#8211; report</title>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true realist, but if only......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true realist, but if only&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34376/china-submits-bid-for-opelvauxhall-report/#comment-141166</link>
		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shak Says: 
July 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm 
&quot;This is just a far off thought, but what if Holden bought them.&quot;

With what? Holden can&#039;t make money by itself. You and I are the ones keeping that company afloat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shak Says:<br />
July 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm<br />
&#8220;This is just a far off thought, but what if Holden bought them.&#8221;</p>
<p>With what? Holden can&#8217;t make money by itself. You and I are the ones keeping that company afloat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34376/china-submits-bid-for-opelvauxhall-report/#comment-141141</link>
		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just a far off thought, but what if Holden bought them. Then we would get the magnificent Insignia and the Astra, without the massive price hikes. Just a thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a far off thought, but what if Holden bought them. Then we would get the magnificent Insignia and the Astra, without the massive price hikes. Just a thought</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34376/china-submits-bid-for-opelvauxhall-report/#comment-141137</link>
		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fiat don&#039;t have any dollars, nor have they offered any dollars to the table in their discussions to buy into Opel/ Vauxhall. That is why the the Magna International &amp; Sberbank got the front running. The Fiat proposal was requesting assistance from the German Government to be able to be funded, how could anyone say that was the best deal? 
The thing with the BAIC offer is that they have dollars and the backing of their Government (being predominately state run organisations) so if the original deal falls short then this is a good one to have up your sleeve. Notice GM didn&#039;t want to include these guys in the process because it would be in comptition to their joint venture in China</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiat don&#8217;t have any dollars, nor have they offered any dollars to the table in their discussions to buy into Opel/ Vauxhall. That is why the the Magna International &amp; Sberbank got the front running. The Fiat proposal was requesting assistance from the German Government to be able to be funded, how could anyone say that was the best deal?<br />
The thing with the BAIC offer is that they have dollars and the backing of their Government (being predominately state run organisations) so if the original deal falls short then this is a good one to have up your sleeve. Notice GM didn&#8217;t want to include these guys in the process because it would be in comptition to their joint venture in China</p>
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		<title>By: Vid_Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/34376/china-submits-bid-for-opelvauxhall-report/#comment-141133</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FIAT already struck a deal to buy chrysler.. They are not in the market for a second failing auto maker! one is more then enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FIAT already struck a deal to buy chrysler.. They are not in the market for a second failing auto maker! one is more then enough.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalOne</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*****PRIMO!*****

The BEST deal for long term survival [and THE only one that will work], is to join with FIAT.

Alas GM don&#039;t care about the long term survival of Opel/Vauxhall, they are ONLY interested in maximum fiscal return, which is fair enough.

If Opel/Vauxhall wants to survive it needs FIAT platform and model share, together with now a large dealer base to sell the said product.

Both Magna and BAIC will pay more, which is good for GM, but long term its DOOMED

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*****PRIMO!*****</p>
<p>The BEST deal for long term survival [and THE only one that will work], is to join with FIAT.</p>
<p>Alas GM don&#8217;t care about the long term survival of Opel/Vauxhall, they are ONLY interested in maximum fiscal return, which is fair enough.</p>
<p>If Opel/Vauxhall wants to survive it needs FIAT platform and model share, together with now a large dealer base to sell the said product.</p>
<p>Both Magna and BAIC will pay more, which is good for GM, but long term its DOOMED</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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