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	<title>Comments on: Holden posts $70.2 million loss</title>
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		<title>By: Abscess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abscess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REALITY BITE Says: 
July 1st, 2009 at 6:58 pm 
i think your ford is crap…not the world’s most respected car maker TOYOTA.
Respected by Who?Fridge Makers???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REALITY BITE Says:<br />
July 1st, 2009 at 6:58 pm<br />
i think your ford is crap…not the world’s most respected car maker TOYOTA.<br />
Respected by Who?Fridge Makers???</p>
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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what&#039;s that - six years of losses in a row?

And Krudd wants to throw MORE money at them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s that &#8211; six years of losses in a row?</p>
<p>And Krudd wants to throw MORE money at them?</p>
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		<title>By: REALITY BITE</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33971/holden-posts-702-million-loss/#comment-140410</link>
		<dc:creator>REALITY BITE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think your ford is crap...not the world&#039;s most respected car maker TOYOTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think your ford is crap&#8230;not the world&#8217;s most respected car maker TOYOTA.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What they need to do is pull fingers out and stop buggering around with the Cruze, and get straight onto the Volt.

They need something that will put them right over the top of the competition.
The Volt shows a lot of promise. By the time they deliver it to the aussies, every other manufacturer would have already had similar 2 years ago.

They need a big statement, not just another mid pack small car claiming to be a savior.

On the Loss, I too would have expected bigger, so well done to them on that, but in thinking about it, this figure comes from trading that occured 1-2 years ago.
Nobody knew the term &quot;financial crisis&quot; back then, and also as already pointed out the figures will be reflective of once plentiful export sales.

They dont need a pretend &quot;game changer&quot;, Toyota showed that people will eventually see through that crap, they need a real one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they need to do is pull fingers out and stop buggering around with the Cruze, and get straight onto the Volt.</p>
<p>They need something that will put them right over the top of the competition.<br />
The Volt shows a lot of promise. By the time they deliver it to the aussies, every other manufacturer would have already had similar 2 years ago.</p>
<p>They need a big statement, not just another mid pack small car claiming to be a savior.</p>
<p>On the Loss, I too would have expected bigger, so well done to them on that, but in thinking about it, this figure comes from trading that occured 1-2 years ago.<br />
Nobody knew the term &#8220;financial crisis&#8221; back then, and also as already pointed out the figures will be reflective of once plentiful export sales.</p>
<p>They dont need a pretend &#8220;game changer&#8221;, Toyota showed that people will eventually see through that crap, they need a real one</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33971/holden-posts-702-million-loss/#comment-140405</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will potential buyers of this indigenous manifestation of Obama Motors Inc. query who will be responsible for carrying out warranty obligations in two years?</description>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33971/holden-posts-702-million-loss/#comment-140275</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holden really need to up their game with the fleet spec Commodore.  Whilst there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the SS/SS-V lineup (personally, I think they offer immense value for money), the Commodore Omega leaves a lot to be desired.  

The fact that Holden has retained the clunky 4-speed auto that serviced multiple generations of Commodores, is simply unacceptable.  The fact that they branded the VE their &quot;billion dollar baby&quot; happens to highlight Holden&#039;s complacency and arrogance in deciding to keep their boat anchor auto in the &quot;all new&quot; VE.  Holden was able to gauge just how ignorant and insular the average Commodore buyer is, and knew that even if the VE becomes inferior to its main competitors, people would still buy them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holden really need to up their game with the fleet spec Commodore.  Whilst there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the SS/SS-V lineup (personally, I think they offer immense value for money), the Commodore Omega leaves a lot to be desired.  </p>
<p>The fact that Holden has retained the clunky 4-speed auto that serviced multiple generations of Commodores, is simply unacceptable.  The fact that they branded the VE their &#8220;billion dollar baby&#8221; happens to highlight Holden&#8217;s complacency and arrogance in deciding to keep their boat anchor auto in the &#8220;all new&#8221; VE.  Holden was able to gauge just how ignorant and insular the average Commodore buyer is, and knew that even if the VE becomes inferior to its main competitors, people would still buy them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just shut it down.......shut it...maybe they could sell the remaining cars as scrap metal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just shut it down&#8230;&#8230;.shut it&#8230;maybe they could sell the remaining cars as scrap metal.</p>
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		<title>By: lazybones</title>
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		<dc:creator>lazybones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i personally don&#039;t think -70M AUD is that bad considering the climate. I was expecting double that, but at least this will silence those who have been claiming for a while now on this site, that Holden were actually going to turn a positive profit this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i personally don&#8217;t think -70M AUD is that bad considering the climate. I was expecting double that, but at least this will silence those who have been claiming for a while now on this site, that Holden were actually going to turn a positive profit this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Frenchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frenchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew:
You are correct, they are only ending production of family 4 engine and maybe increasing V6 production for export.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew:<br />
You are correct, they are only ending production of family 4 engine and maybe increasing V6 production for export.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut™</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holden are ceasing production of the Family 4 engine [which dates back to the Camira] and they are also closing down the old factory where the engines Family 4 engines are made [where they have been since the 70s-8s]

However; I expect that there won&#039;t be as many job losses as most people are expecting. 
Because over the past couple of years Holden have been gradually transferring production from the old factory to the new factory where the next generation 4 cylinder engines will be made along with the new V6s - including the Direct Injection Twin Turbo Option [DITTO] engine - similar to what was in the TT-36 Torana Concept</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holden are ceasing production of the Family 4 engine [which dates back to the Camira] and they are also closing down the old factory where the engines Family 4 engines are made [where they have been since the 70s-8s]</p>
<p>However; I expect that there won&#8217;t be as many job losses as most people are expecting.<br />
Because over the past couple of years Holden have been gradually transferring production from the old factory to the new factory where the next generation 4 cylinder engines will be made along with the new V6s &#8211; including the Direct Injection Twin Turbo Option [DITTO] engine &#8211; similar to what was in the TT-36 Torana Concept</p>
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