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	<title>Comments on: 2009 BMW 7 Series diesel &#8211; First Steer</title>
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		<title>By: Matthias</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-141568</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus i agree with what someone said about the Merc S-class its way better than this BMW, as much as i like the new styling to it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus i agree with what someone said about the Merc S-class its way better than this BMW, as much as i like the new styling to it..</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-141567</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the F*ck does that mean?? ^^</description>
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		<title>By: lhuda.com</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-141388</link>
		<dc:creator>lhuda.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMW 730d is they best faster</description>
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		<title>By: andre</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-141234</link>
		<dc:creator>andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great mileage eater.  Great touring car like most of the cars in this class, though it seems most (not all) are just used to drive/commute around our big cities...  whereas in Germany these cars (especially the Diesel S-classes and BMW 7series as well as Audi A8s) are most commonly used by business(wo)men who travel 75,000km or more a year.... have a look on carsales how little miles these cars do here...i&#039;m amazed at that....
Great car nonetheless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great mileage eater.  Great touring car like most of the cars in this class, though it seems most (not all) are just used to drive/commute around our big cities&#8230;  whereas in Germany these cars (especially the Diesel S-classes and BMW 7series as well as Audi A8s) are most commonly used by business(wo)men who travel 75,000km or more a year&#8230;. have a look on carsales how little miles these cars do here&#8230;i&#8217;m amazed at that&#8230;.<br />
Great car nonetheless</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buck[uncle!]^^^^

Not that these luxo sedans do anything for me, but if i did i would go the VW Phaeton, impressive vehicle and does not have any snob to it, just put a Passat/Bora badge on the boot and you would never even be noticed...

Wonder what all the 10 special requests Piëch asked it to meet where?

Built in a amazing glass walled enviro factory, in Dresden.

Not for Oz, only NZ, they did get very close to selling it here though, be a great 2nd hand buy.

Cheers,

F-0

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buck[uncle!]^^^^</p>
<p>Not that these luxo sedans do anything for me, but if i did i would go the VW Phaeton, impressive vehicle and does not have any snob to it, just put a Passat/Bora badge on the boot and you would never even be noticed&#8230;</p>
<p>Wonder what all the 10 special requests Piëch asked it to meet where?</p>
<p>Built in a amazing glass walled enviro factory, in Dresden.</p>
<p>Not for Oz, only NZ, they did get very close to selling it here though, be a great 2nd hand buy.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>F-0</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: Buck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-141139</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the M Benz S Class to the BMW 7  Series.
What&#039;s the point of a true luxo ride if you can&#039;t have the luxury of adjustable air suspension as standard fit in the S Class ?

M Benz are working on a twin turbo version of their 3.0 litre diesel that first came out in 2005, that&#039;s said to be north of 230KW&#039;s !!

In 2009 BMW have released a 3.0 litre single turbo diesel making 180KW and 540 nm&#039;s of torque, but four years ago M Benz released their S Class 173KW 540nm engine, so its taken all that time for BMW to catch up, go figure ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the M Benz S Class to the BMW 7  Series.<br />
What&#8217;s the point of a true luxo ride if you can&#8217;t have the luxury of adjustable air suspension as standard fit in the S Class ?</p>
<p>M Benz are working on a twin turbo version of their 3.0 litre diesel that first came out in 2005, that&#8217;s said to be north of 230KW&#8217;s !!</p>
<p>In 2009 BMW have released a 3.0 litre single turbo diesel making 180KW and 540 nm&#8217;s of torque, but four years ago M Benz released their S Class 173KW 540nm engine, so its taken all that time for BMW to catch up, go figure ?</p>
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		<title>By: UR far too snobby Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>UR far too snobby Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would happily have one of these beasts.
My dad had 3 VW beetles once, but that is just not relevant is it now Alex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would happily have one of these beasts.<br />
My dad had 3 VW beetles once, but that is just not relevant is it now Alex.</p>
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		<title>By: abc</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-139834</link>
		<dc:creator>abc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how is the diesel particulate filter (DPF)? can it be effective under start stop city driving only? Can it be effective if it&#039;s used for short trip only?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how is the diesel particulate filter (DPF)? can it be effective under start stop city driving only? Can it be effective if it&#8217;s used for short trip only?</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, there&#039;s a bright red Silver Shadow I here in Perth. It&#039;s totally original in appearance and appears to be used every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, there&#8217;s a bright red Silver Shadow I here in Perth. It&#8217;s totally original in appearance and appears to be used every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-139792</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troy, I&#039;m pretty sure that these are the standard eighteens. 19&#039;s an 20&#039;s do look much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy, I&#8217;m pretty sure that these are the standard eighteens. 19&#8217;s an 20&#8217;s do look much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-139791</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heard it all Before, I assure you that I am not talking &quot;bollix&quot;. There are actually quite a few bright red Rolls Royces around. There are also many bright yellow and blue ones. You have to remember that this was the sixties and seventies - people weren&#039;t that worried about what others thought of them and as I wrote before, you weren&#039;t a c*ck for driving a Rolls Royce, you were respected for it. 
I agree that nobody in their right mind would order a bright red Rolls Royce but then, I never said that my parents were in their right minds. It did make sense though, take away colour, a quiet and comfortable car is always going to better if you have children sleeping in the back. 
Apart from anything, the Silver Shadow was cheap for what it was. When my parents bought it new, I think it was about 10,000 pounds or something close to that and with inflation, that&#039;s probably no more than what a well specced 7 Series would cost today. Basically, they wouldn&#039;t have had the same sinking feeling that one might get once they get home after ordering a bright red Phantom today just simply because it didn&#039;t cost so much. 
I don&#039;t have the colour wrong though. Until a few years ago, take away when I was on holiday, I had seen it every day since I was born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heard it all Before, I assure you that I am not talking &#8220;bollix&#8221;. There are actually quite a few bright red Rolls Royces around. There are also many bright yellow and blue ones. You have to remember that this was the sixties and seventies &#8211; people weren&#8217;t that worried about what others thought of them and as I wrote before, you weren&#8217;t a c*ck for driving a Rolls Royce, you were respected for it.<br />
I agree that nobody in their right mind would order a bright red Rolls Royce but then, I never said that my parents were in their right minds. It did make sense though, take away colour, a quiet and comfortable car is always going to better if you have children sleeping in the back.<br />
Apart from anything, the Silver Shadow was cheap for what it was. When my parents bought it new, I think it was about 10,000 pounds or something close to that and with inflation, that&#8217;s probably no more than what a well specced 7 Series would cost today. Basically, they wouldn&#8217;t have had the same sinking feeling that one might get once they get home after ordering a bright red Phantom today just simply because it didn&#8217;t cost so much.<br />
I don&#8217;t have the colour wrong though. Until a few years ago, take away when I was on holiday, I had seen it every day since I was born.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-139789</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - nice car and nice review; quick question - does anyone know what wheels are on that test car?  Are they the standard 18&quot; or one of the optional 19/20&quot; designs?  As Damian said above, it&#039;s the one thing I&#039;m changing when I buy one of these after my lotto numbers come in :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; nice car and nice review; quick question &#8211; does anyone know what wheels are on that test car?  Are they the standard 18&#8243; or one of the optional 19/20&#8243; designs?  As Damian said above, it&#8217;s the one thing I&#8217;m changing when I buy one of these after my lotto numbers come in :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Heard it all before</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heard it all before</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bright red Roller - Alex talking bollix again. No one in their right mind buys a red Roller and Royce can&#039;t imagine made one that colour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bright red Roller &#8211; Alex talking bollix again. No one in their right mind buys a red Roller and Royce can&#8217;t imagine made one that colour.</p>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-139771</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wooo a diesel. great car. Def better than guzzling petrol anyday
Gone !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wooo a diesel. great car. Def better than guzzling petrol anyday<br />
Gone !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-139759</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing that needs changing are the wheels.</description>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-139748</link>
		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the way they have &quot;De-Bangled&quot; these things now, the rump looks so much better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way they have &#8220;De-Bangled&#8221; these things now, the rump looks so much better</p>
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		<title>By: Carz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33722/2009-bmw-7-series-diesel-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-139745</link>
		<dc:creator>Carz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMW 7 Series Diesel is absolutely one of the greatest inventions of BMW. How I wish I can afford such a car, BMW is an awesome car and I would definitely love to own one someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW 7 Series Diesel is absolutely one of the greatest inventions of BMW. How I wish I can afford such a car, BMW is an awesome car and I would definitely love to own one someday.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a very good car. I drove one in the UK not too long ago against a 750i and I would honestly take the diesel any day. It&#039;s just such a good engine. 
Does anybody else think that there&#039;s nothing, well, very special about the 7 Series? I do like it but it just seems a bit boring. It doesn&#039;t quite have the up-market looks of an S Class and it isn&#039;t as interesting as the next XJ is promising to be. I have the same problem with the Audi A8; exceptional car, but nothing to really get you going. I have also commented before that the colour choice is just so boring. You know you&#039;ve got a problem when the most exciting colour is a toss up between a grey-ish blue and white. 
I remember when limousines were fun. I have never seen a Rolls Royce Phantom that wasn&#039;t black, white, silver, grey or navy blue. My mothers family car when I was growing up was a bright red Rolls Royce Silver Shadow II and it was and still is the most fantastic car. It just has so much character but the problem now is image. My parents bought it new and back then, everybody respected Rolls Royces. Now if you have one, you&#039;re a self righteous bastard who&#039;s killing several polar bears every time you switch on the engine and only bought it to be noticed. That seems to be the general consensus with most limousines and that, unfortunately, is why one can&#039;t go and order a bright red 7 Series. I think this is a real shame because colour has a lot to do with the character of a car. Silver takes it away, but red or blue might add more. It&#039;s just how it works and I for one think that BMW could use some more character. I am not especially excited by white or grey-ish blues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a very good car. I drove one in the UK not too long ago against a 750i and I would honestly take the diesel any day. It&#8217;s just such a good engine.<br />
Does anybody else think that there&#8217;s nothing, well, very special about the 7 Series? I do like it but it just seems a bit boring. It doesn&#8217;t quite have the up-market looks of an S Class and it isn&#8217;t as interesting as the next XJ is promising to be. I have the same problem with the Audi A8; exceptional car, but nothing to really get you going. I have also commented before that the colour choice is just so boring. You know you&#8217;ve got a problem when the most exciting colour is a toss up between a grey-ish blue and white.<br />
I remember when limousines were fun. I have never seen a Rolls Royce Phantom that wasn&#8217;t black, white, silver, grey or navy blue. My mothers family car when I was growing up was a bright red Rolls Royce Silver Shadow II and it was and still is the most fantastic car. It just has so much character but the problem now is image. My parents bought it new and back then, everybody respected Rolls Royces. Now if you have one, you&#8217;re a self righteous bastard who&#8217;s killing several polar bears every time you switch on the engine and only bought it to be noticed. That seems to be the general consensus with most limousines and that, unfortunately, is why one can&#8217;t go and order a bright red 7 Series. I think this is a real shame because colour has a lot to do with the character of a car. Silver takes it away, but red or blue might add more. It&#8217;s just how it works and I for one think that BMW could use some more character. I am not especially excited by white or grey-ish blues.</p>
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		<title>By: Mumble Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mumble Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^^^^Maybe there&#039;s a price difference?  Geee.</description>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This car is pure innovation. WHy cant we dowunder produce something of this calibre. Although Holden constantly harks on about the Caprice, it cant match the tech savvy of this car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This car is pure innovation. WHy cant we dowunder produce something of this calibre. Although Holden constantly harks on about the Caprice, it cant match the tech savvy of this car.</p>
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