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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33552/2010-kia-ceed-facelift-spied-at-ring/#comment-145485</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Car is made in SLOVAKIA, not in SLOVENIA.

http://www.slovensko.com/slovakia/slo.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Car is made in SLOVAKIA, not in SLOVENIA.</p>
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		<title>By: HAL</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33552/2010-kia-ceed-facelift-spied-at-ring/#comment-139324</link>
		<dc:creator>HAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ Tony, isn&#039;t the Camry made in Oz though?  Regardless, I sort of agree with Lukaas, although you probably can&#039;t generalise it to a Korea v Japanese argument.  I would take a Honda (albeit made in Thailand?) over a Hyundai if I was choosing. Why?  I just would.  And I would take a Mazda over a Hyundai or Kia any day of the week and twice on Sundays.  But a Nissan or a Mitsubishi - I don&#039;t think it&#039;s such a clear cut argument.

Speaking of &quot;horrible pussbuckets&quot;, I would place the korean made Holden Epica neatly in that category.  God-awful car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ Tony, isn&#8217;t the Camry made in Oz though?  Regardless, I sort of agree with Lukaas, although you probably can&#8217;t generalise it to a Korea v Japanese argument.  I would take a Honda (albeit made in Thailand?) over a Hyundai if I was choosing. Why?  I just would.  And I would take a Mazda over a Hyundai or Kia any day of the week and twice on Sundays.  But a Nissan or a Mitsubishi &#8211; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s such a clear cut argument.</p>
<p>Speaking of &#8220;horrible pussbuckets&#8221;, I would place the korean made Holden Epica neatly in that category.  God-awful car.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with that assessment. I&#039;ve driven a few Korean cars from minivans to SUVs to sedans to hatches.

I can honestly say they are no better or worse than japanese cars.

Put it this way... having driven a Camry/Aurion extensively I can say these are certainly not cars to be emulated to any degree.

The Camry in particular is a horrible pusbucket. Here&#039;s a car with no acceleration, almost scary handling, brakes with no feeling. This is no car to be emulated by anyone.

Having driven a turbo Supra, Chaser and Aristo these are cars of a completely different league.

At the hatch end I put the Japanese/Koreans in largely the same low bucket. The Golfs and A3s go on a higher plane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with that assessment. I&#8217;ve driven a few Korean cars from minivans to SUVs to sedans to hatches.</p>
<p>I can honestly say they are no better or worse than japanese cars.</p>
<p>Put it this way&#8230; having driven a Camry/Aurion extensively I can say these are certainly not cars to be emulated to any degree.</p>
<p>The Camry in particular is a horrible pusbucket. Here&#8217;s a car with no acceleration, almost scary handling, brakes with no feeling. This is no car to be emulated by anyone.</p>
<p>Having driven a turbo Supra, Chaser and Aristo these are cars of a completely different league.</p>
<p>At the hatch end I put the Japanese/Koreans in largely the same low bucket. The Golfs and A3s go on a higher plane.</p>
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		<title>By: Lukaas</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33552/2010-kia-ceed-facelift-spied-at-ring/#comment-139303</link>
		<dc:creator>Lukaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just find it alarming that Korean manufacturers are being mentioned on the same sentence as Japanese, when in reality its still about 5-6 years before they match refinement... outside of &quot;STYLING&quot;... they are still not there... not taking away that Koreans have improved... kudos to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just find it alarming that Korean manufacturers are being mentioned on the same sentence as Japanese, when in reality its still about 5-6 years before they match refinement&#8230; outside of &#8220;STYLING&#8221;&#8230; they are still not there&#8230; not taking away that Koreans have improved&#8230; kudos to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Huh?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is a car from a cheap and cheerful car maker running around the &#039;Ring?  The track schedulers must have pissed their pants when they got a call from Hyundai/Kia asking if they could test their latest supercar LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is a car from a cheap and cheerful car maker running around the &#8216;Ring?  The track schedulers must have pissed their pants when they got a call from Hyundai/Kia asking if they could test their latest supercar LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33552/2010-kia-ceed-facelift-spied-at-ring/#comment-139298</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides the Ceed I like the Toyota Aygo but the reality is these cars were designed for the market they were made in and unless they want to move their lines from the Czech Republic to Korea you&#039;ll never see them here.

I don&#039;t think even the Koreans or the Japanese get the Ceed or Aygo so you can be almost 100% certain we&#039;ll never see both these cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides the Ceed I like the Toyota Aygo but the reality is these cars were designed for the market they were made in and unless they want to move their lines from the Czech Republic to Korea you&#8217;ll never see them here.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think even the Koreans or the Japanese get the Ceed or Aygo so you can be almost 100% certain we&#8217;ll never see both these cars.</p>
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		<title>By: The Salesman.</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Salesman.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Cerato hatch that i know of for Australia, i did see some in Korea at the factory. Two door Coupe in the third quarter this year. Six speed auto in Cerato but who knows when? 
Why no trip-computer and std safety pack on the base model?
So we can up sell and increase profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Cerato hatch that i know of for Australia, i did see some in Korea at the factory. Two door Coupe in the third quarter this year. Six speed auto in Cerato but who knows when?<br />
Why no trip-computer and std safety pack on the base model?<br />
So we can up sell and increase profit.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^^^SALESMAN

Any news of the Cerato Hatch? [No need for Ceed]

Is a 5 speed auto going to be offered?

Why no trip-computer and std safety pack on the base model?

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^^SALESMAN</p>
<p>Any news of the Cerato Hatch? [No need for Ceed]</p>
<p>Is a 5 speed auto going to be offered?</p>
<p>Why no trip-computer and std safety pack on the base model?</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: The Salesman.</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33552/2010-kia-ceed-facelift-spied-at-ring/#comment-139285</link>
		<dc:creator>The Salesman.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will never see the Cee’d arrive on Australian shores. Unless they decide to start making it in South Korea. The cost is too high to get it to Australia. The Cee’d would end up in the wrong price bracket and would directly compete against the cheaper i30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will never see the Cee’d arrive on Australian shores. Unless they decide to start making it in South Korea. The cost is too high to get it to Australia. The Cee’d would end up in the wrong price bracket and would directly compete against the cheaper i30.</p>
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		<title>By: zahmad</title>
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		<dc:creator>zahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyundai&#039;s afraid this is a better car than the 130...hence no introduction to Aus..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyundai&#8217;s afraid this is a better car than the 130&#8230;hence no introduction to Aus..</p>
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