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	<title>Comments on: Great Wall Motors release two models in Australia</title>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one, tow my Large boat, tandem trailer with over a tonne of sand at work and a full payload of tiles.  If you want a race car, look elsewhere, if you want a 5 star rating, dont buy any 4wd, but if you want a comfortable, tough looking 4wd that cost you nearly half of it competitors, then buy a v240. I love it, and I cant wait for the diesel option to come out next year and I will get the business another one.  Toyota was a fad that will never last , a comment that was echoed in the late 70&#039;s, now look at the company... time will tell and I believe that my family will be better off with the savings where they can do the most good, in my hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one, tow my Large boat, tandem trailer with over a tonne of sand at work and a full payload of tiles.  If you want a race car, look elsewhere, if you want a 5 star rating, dont buy any 4wd, but if you want a comfortable, tough looking 4wd that cost you nearly half of it competitors, then buy a v240. I love it, and I cant wait for the diesel option to come out next year and I will get the business another one.  Toyota was a fad that will never last , a comment that was echoed in the late 70&#8217;s, now look at the company&#8230; time will tell and I believe that my family will be better off with the savings where they can do the most good, in my hand.</p>
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		<title>By: mmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Advertising, how much are you being paid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Advertising, how much are you being paid?</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great wall is doing pretty good.

im not just buying 1 car
im buying a franchise =]
if you live in sydney it will be open next year at lansvale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great wall is doing pretty good.</p>
<p>im not just buying 1 car<br />
im buying a franchise =]<br />
if you live in sydney it will be open next year at lansvale.</p>
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		<title>By: Guodong_Zhao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guodong_Zhao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, from your name I don&#039;t think you are a chinese, or at least you are not from china mainland.Maybe you are a chinese from singapore, malaysia or even vietnam. In china, your surname should be Liang but not Leong. But whatever,you are not came from the same place as the GWM, and yes,you should be ashame on cheating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, from your name I don&#8217;t think you are a chinese, or at least you are not from china mainland.Maybe you are a chinese from singapore, malaysia or even vietnam. In china, your surname should be Liang but not Leong. But whatever,you are not came from the same place as the GWM, and yes,you should be ashame on cheating.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi gary at the moment i have no complaints,it runs it stops everything works(slight fogging in one headlight getting fixed under warranty)as far as comfort its a ute doesnt seem to b any worse than any other utes i have been in, on the open road no problems, long inclines stretch it a bit, need to down shift,still early days just 5500ks under the belt.hope u found this of some help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi gary at the moment i have no complaints,it runs it stops everything works(slight fogging in one headlight getting fixed under warranty)as far as comfort its a ute doesnt seem to b any worse than any other utes i have been in, on the open road no problems, long inclines stretch it a bit, need to down shift,still early days just 5500ks under the belt.hope u found this of some help.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tony how does it drive and stuff because i really wanna talk to people who own a great wall vehicle because i need feedbacks, i just wanna know about how you think it looks and how well it drives also the power and how comfortable it is, and i&#039;d like a rate outta 10 of the overall rating. would really love to hear a reply from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tony how does it drive and stuff because i really wanna talk to people who own a great wall vehicle because i need feedbacks, i just wanna know about how you think it looks and how well it drives also the power and how comfortable it is, and i&#8217;d like a rate outta 10 of the overall rating. would really love to hear a reply from you.</p>
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		<title>By: NERVOUS</title>
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		<dc:creator>NERVOUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke to a &quot;salesman&quot; in Wanneroo, who assure me these cars were safer than safe and that the NRMA had just bought some for testing. He said that ANCAP testing wasnt very good and that the utes had passed multiple safety tests more stringent than ANCAP. He also showed me child restraints and said how safe they were for kids. I wonder if he&#039;s seen the ANCAP results and how he put a spin on them.
You&#039;re right, these types of cheap vehicles are not suitable for roads in countries where higher speeds are usualy achieved. A decent collision would have you wishing youd spent a bit more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke to a &#8220;salesman&#8221; in Wanneroo, who assure me these cars were safer than safe and that the NRMA had just bought some for testing. He said that ANCAP testing wasnt very good and that the utes had passed multiple safety tests more stringent than ANCAP. He also showed me child restraints and said how safe they were for kids. I wonder if he&#8217;s seen the ANCAP results and how he put a spin on them.<br />
You&#8217;re right, these types of cheap vehicles are not suitable for roads in countries where higher speeds are usualy achieved. A decent collision would have you wishing youd spent a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if your complaining its underpowered why would u buy one,same as i wouldnt buy a mini to tow a boat  but if yr just throwing tools etc in the back running around why run a V8 yes i bought one so far nothing fallen off,i do about 1000ks aweek getting around 8 lts per 100km guess time will tell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if your complaining its underpowered why would u buy one,same as i wouldnt buy a mini to tow a boat  but if yr just throwing tools etc in the back running around why run a V8 yes i bought one so far nothing fallen off,i do about 1000ks aweek getting around 8 lts per 100km guess time will tell</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed entirely</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mate, you&#039;ve got to stop calling them yellow people. it&#039;s racist. I know they call us white&#039;s but theres no reason to be racist.
GWM i think, would have not too good quality, as it is a first try in our market, though maybe if they don&#039;t send them back overseas, we&#039;ll see some prettier cars around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mate, you&#8217;ve got to stop calling them yellow people. it&#8217;s racist. I know they call us white&#8217;s but theres no reason to be racist.<br />
GWM i think, would have not too good quality, as it is a first try in our market, though maybe if they don&#8217;t send them back overseas, we&#8217;ll see some prettier cars around.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33544/great-wall-motors-release-two-models-in-australia/comment-page-2/#comment-154853</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t meant to offense anyone, my point was, never say anything if you don&#039;t know about it. It&#039;s a common human nature that people always follows other people&#039;s thinging when they don&#039;t know about it. My suggestion is, go to the dealer and test drive one. 

I have to say Chinese cars were so crap 10 years ago, I woldn&#039;t even touch one when I was in China. But hey, if you are the owner of a manufacture, you always try hard to improve your product wouldn&#039;t you? I saw the change of the automotive industry in China over the years and the fact is, the big brand such as VW, TOYOTA, Honda, GM family brands etc had to reduce their car price in the Chinese market by more than 40%, becaus they are losing the market very quickly due to Chinese made cars are quickly catching up. 

My brother in China law is a TAXI driver, he owned a Chery A5(which Ateco is bring into Australia sometime later) for 3 years which runs 24 hours per day on the road, the car had clocked over 350000kms and there were no major issues at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t meant to offense anyone, my point was, never say anything if you don&#8217;t know about it. It&#8217;s a common human nature that people always follows other people&#8217;s thinging when they don&#8217;t know about it. My suggestion is, go to the dealer and test drive one. </p>
<p>I have to say Chinese cars were so crap 10 years ago, I woldn&#8217;t even touch one when I was in China. But hey, if you are the owner of a manufacture, you always try hard to improve your product wouldn&#8217;t you? I saw the change of the automotive industry in China over the years and the fact is, the big brand such as VW, TOYOTA, Honda, GM family brands etc had to reduce their car price in the Chinese market by more than 40%, becaus they are losing the market very quickly due to Chinese made cars are quickly catching up. </p>
<p>My brother in China law is a TAXI driver, he owned a Chery A5(which Ateco is bring into Australia sometime later) for 3 years which runs 24 hours per day on the road, the car had clocked over 350000kms and there were no major issues at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 for BQ. 

I&#039;m sure 80% of people who speaks in here never ever touched the GWM, they are just talking based on their imaginations. Those people who was bitching out there, it&#039;s not the right time for bitching yet. Just look around in your house and get an idea what you have is made in Australia? If you didn&#039;t find any, then second question you are going to ask yourself is, are we qualified to whine here?

Australians should really ask themself, &quot;Can we make a car?&quot;. Oh yes, there&#039;s Holden out there, not to mention the ownership of American GM, but apart of Commodore, all other models from Holden are either Korean Dawooe or Opel from Europ, and Holden&#039;s truck and 4WD has always been a Isuzu with a Holden face. Only thing Holden does is fit 4 wheels on the car, and nail their pretty bedge on it. Even the so called &quot;Australian made&quot; Commodore is a American car assembled in Australia and it was running on a old school TOYOTA engine for 10 years. 

Guys, save some beer money and buy a $900 ticket from Qantas and fly to China to have a look because you guys have totally no ideas about Chinese cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 for BQ. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure 80% of people who speaks in here never ever touched the GWM, they are just talking based on their imaginations. Those people who was bitching out there, it&#8217;s not the right time for bitching yet. Just look around in your house and get an idea what you have is made in Australia? If you didn&#8217;t find any, then second question you are going to ask yourself is, are we qualified to whine here?</p>
<p>Australians should really ask themself, &#8220;Can we make a car?&#8221;. Oh yes, there&#8217;s Holden out there, not to mention the ownership of American GM, but apart of Commodore, all other models from Holden are either Korean Dawooe or Opel from Europ, and Holden&#8217;s truck and 4WD has always been a Isuzu with a Holden face. Only thing Holden does is fit 4 wheels on the car, and nail their pretty bedge on it. Even the so called &#8220;Australian made&#8221; Commodore is a American car assembled in Australia and it was running on a old school TOYOTA engine for 10 years. </p>
<p>Guys, save some beer money and buy a $900 ticket from Qantas and fly to China to have a look because you guys have totally no ideas about Chinese cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Carfanatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carfanatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get into the world scene? China are the second largest car producing nation in the world. Only Japan stands in their way and selling cars globally will certainly challenge the Japanese for manufacturing numbers. Quality will follow, believe me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get into the world scene? China are the second largest car producing nation in the world. Only Japan stands in their way and selling cars globally will certainly challenge the Japanese for manufacturing numbers. Quality will follow, believe me.</p>
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		<title>By: Keepleft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keepleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some respects, actually yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some respects, actually yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Keepleft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keepleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BOTH the V220 and V240 utes have as standard equipment; a single, &quot;hazard-warning triangle&quot; constructed to European/UN specification (a triangle and safety vest is mandatory in EU &amp; ROC markets).  The supplied triangle is *not* a junk item either.

In the V220; the warning triangle is located UNDER the rear seat.

In the V240; the warning triangle is located BEHIND the rear seat backrest.  See the yellow label.

http://www.nbntv.com.au/index.php/2009/07/14/calls-for-improved-roadside-safety/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BOTH the V220 and V240 utes have as standard equipment; a single, &#8220;hazard-warning triangle&#8221; constructed to European/UN specification (a triangle and safety vest is mandatory in EU &amp; ROC markets).  The supplied triangle is *not* a junk item either.</p>
<p>In the V220; the warning triangle is located UNDER the rear seat.</p>
<p>In the V240; the warning triangle is located BEHIND the rear seat backrest.  See the yellow label.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nbntv.com.au/index.php/2009/07/14/calls-for-improved-roadside-safety/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbntv.com.au/index......de-safety/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Toyota, Ford ...... have any crash data?
When Toyota &amp; Isuzu had their Ute&#039;s back in 1996 there were not concerns regarding safety, this is the basis of these vehicles.

I have driven these vehicles in South Africa, here they get used &amp; abused by builder, farmers, courier co&#039;s, .......... not getting any major come backs.
Test, then judge!!
Where did Japan start......look a them now!!

Try it!!

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Toyota, Ford &#8230;&#8230; have any crash data?<br />
When Toyota &amp; Isuzu had their Ute&#8217;s back in 1996 there were not concerns regarding safety, this is the basis of these vehicles.</p>
<p>I have driven these vehicles in South Africa, here they get used &amp; abused by builder, farmers, courier co&#8217;s, &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. not getting any major come backs.<br />
Test, then judge!!<br />
Where did Japan start&#8230;&#8230;look a them now!!</p>
<p>Try it!!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: BQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Australia is 3rd world country. At least China can feed its own people and make almost everything they need. Australia can&#039;t even make a plasma TV or Airconditioning. And even worse, lots of Aussies believe Aus. makes much better cars than China even before they&#039;ve touched the Chinese cars. This is a typical 3rd world country way of thinking - just like North Korea.
China has built nuclear power stations 20 years ago and has sent satellite into space in 1960&#039;s. What make you believe Great Wall will never beat Holden? (by the way, isn&#039;t holden American cars which are only assembled in Australia?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Australia is 3rd world country. At least China can feed its own people and make almost everything they need. Australia can&#8217;t even make a plasma TV or Airconditioning. And even worse, lots of Aussies believe Aus. makes much better cars than China even before they&#8217;ve touched the Chinese cars. This is a typical 3rd world country way of thinking &#8211; just like North Korea.<br />
China has built nuclear power stations 20 years ago and has sent satellite into space in 1960&#8217;s. What make you believe Great Wall will never beat Holden? (by the way, isn&#8217;t holden American cars which are only assembled in Australia?)</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Gohnda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Gohnda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uuuuuhm, are you saying Australia is 3rd world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uuuuuhm, are you saying Australia is 3rd world?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Gohnda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Gohnda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw one today at the Royal Adelaide Show. Looks and Interior are great. I like the 240 Nose. You can tell it&#039;s not Toyota or Ford. I couldn&#039;t care if they copy the design from NASA. Clearly some people here have not seen the vehicle. Obviously some people here are anti China imports. Maybe you people can stick to buying over priced American and Jap cars and  feed at least one selfish and greedy economy. I am going for a test drive next week. If I like the drive, I am buying one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw one today at the Royal Adelaide Show. Looks and Interior are great. I like the 240 Nose. You can tell it&#8217;s not Toyota or Ford. I couldn&#8217;t care if they copy the design from NASA. Clearly some people here have not seen the vehicle. Obviously some people here are anti China imports. Maybe you people can stick to buying over priced American and Jap cars and  feed at least one selfish and greedy economy. I am going for a test drive next week. If I like the drive, I am buying one.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dong</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33544/great-wall-motors-release-two-models-in-australia/comment-page-2/#comment-151378</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admittedly chinese cars are crap as has been pointed in the posts here ad nauseum. But they are ambitious. They hope to get into the world scene, which is a tough nut to crack ... having to contend with emissions, crash tests, IPR, etc. But they are not standing still tho, they are gaining valueable experience by selling in 3rd world markets like South America, Africa and Australia, before attempting the more lucrative markets of Europe and America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly chinese cars are crap as has been pointed in the posts here ad nauseum. But they are ambitious. They hope to get into the world scene, which is a tough nut to crack &#8230; having to contend with emissions, crash tests, IPR, etc. But they are not standing still tho, they are gaining valueable experience by selling in 3rd world markets like South America, Africa and Australia, before attempting the more lucrative markets of Europe and America.</p>
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