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		<title>By: Gaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny, ignore the letters at your peril.  The next one will be from State Debt Recovery and possible loss of licence.  Not paying your toll is a legal offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny, ignore the letters at your peril.  The next one will be from State Debt Recovery and possible loss of licence.  Not paying your toll is a legal offense.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 09:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so people know i used the Sydney harbour tunnel twice without an etag then i got a bill in the mail a few weeks later, i ignored the letters and did not pay them a cent and the letters just stopped coming.. im happy with my effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so people know i used the Sydney harbour tunnel twice without an etag then i got a bill in the mail a few weeks later, i ignored the letters and did not pay them a cent and the letters just stopped coming.. im happy with my effort.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kane, of course there is - either use public transport OR (even better) get yourself a bicycle to ride to work. I had enough when they put the bus lanes in (although I also think this is a good way to get people off the roads), and still can&#039;t get public transport good (having full buses go past on epping rd, then have to wait sometimes 20+ mins for one to get onto, that isn&#039;t full). Now I ride to work. And I&#039;m MUCH better off as a result. Dont&#039; have to pay a cent, and my heart loves me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kane, of course there is &#8211; either use public transport OR (even better) get yourself a bicycle to ride to work. I had enough when they put the bus lanes in (although I also think this is a good way to get people off the roads), and still can&#8217;t get public transport good (having full buses go past on epping rd, then have to wait sometimes 20+ mins for one to get onto, that isn&#8217;t full). Now I ride to work. And I&#8217;m MUCH better off as a result. Dont&#8217; have to pay a cent, and my heart loves me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone asked the question - &quot;is there anything we can do&quot;?

Surely there must be some legal pathway we can follow to reverse the corrupt changes made to Epping road to help line the corporate pocket.

Those living in the north west are being unfairly penalised. Not only are fuel prices high, the government is trying to force additional expense on us through making a trip down Epping road almost impossibly frustating and forcing us into the tunnel.

Is there some sort of class action that can be brought against the government to reverse some of the road changes eg lane reductions etc? Anyone have any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone asked the question &#8211; &#8220;is there anything we can do&#8221;?</p>
<p>Surely there must be some legal pathway we can follow to reverse the corrupt changes made to Epping road to help line the corporate pocket.</p>
<p>Those living in the north west are being unfairly penalised. Not only are fuel prices high, the government is trying to force additional expense on us through making a trip down Epping road almost impossibly frustating and forcing us into the tunnel.</p>
<p>Is there some sort of class action that can be brought against the government to reverse some of the road changes eg lane reductions etc? Anyone have any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There really aren&#039;t many governments in the world that can take a 3 lane road (that&#039;s free), and after billions of dollars of construction, congestion and frustration, end up with a 3 lane road (that is tolled).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There really aren&#8217;t many governments in the world that can take a 3 lane road (that&#8217;s free), and after billions of dollars of construction, congestion and frustration, end up with a 3 lane road (that is tolled).</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made an effort that from now on I will avoid toll roads at all costs. And I can say that I&#039;ve avoided each one since November 2006.

Why have I done this? Is it because I&#039;m a tight-arse? Maybe. :)

It&#039;s actually because my wife convinced me to get a ROAM E-Tag. I did. And I noticed that the numbers didn&#039;t add up when I placed my credit on the account $100. I received my first invoice and it said $64 and I had only used it a few times. The first week I had it, the tag didn&#039;t work. When I called up about a &quot;faulty tag&quot; I was told that the trips I took it on registered. Yet it beeped at me 4 times.

In September last year I went on holidays for a month. When I got back I had a ROAM letter in the mail telling me that they&#039;re going to charge me some stupid amount of money because my account went over the credit limit. By I hadn&#039;t used it the entire month. It had not been used by anyone else. I know that for sure.

I cancelled my account after they sucked it dry with a $100 credit in Sept last year, to the $25.43 (how do you get that figure when toll costs are all pretty evenly priced - it&#039;s not like it&#039;s $2.39 to take the M5).

Rip off bastards won&#039;t have any more of my money. Good luck to the owners of the Lane Cove tunnel. I hope they file for bankruptcy.

And now they want to make the Pacific Hwy a toll road to fund the bits they&#039;re fixing up... because our tax and rego isn&#039;t enough to buy ourselves a &quot;safe&quot; road to travel on.

I&#039;ve vented now. Time to go to bed.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made an effort that from now on I will avoid toll roads at all costs. And I can say that I&#8217;ve avoided each one since November 2006.</p>
<p>Why have I done this? Is it because I&#8217;m a tight-arse? Maybe. <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually because my wife convinced me to get a ROAM E-Tag. I did. And I noticed that the numbers didn&#8217;t add up when I placed my credit on the account $100. I received my first invoice and it said $64 and I had only used it a few times. The first week I had it, the tag didn&#8217;t work. When I called up about a &#8220;faulty tag&#8221; I was told that the trips I took it on registered. Yet it beeped at me 4 times.</p>
<p>In September last year I went on holidays for a month. When I got back I had a ROAM letter in the mail telling me that they&#8217;re going to charge me some stupid amount of money because my account went over the credit limit. By I hadn&#8217;t used it the entire month. It had not been used by anyone else. I know that for sure.</p>
<p>I cancelled my account after they sucked it dry with a $100 credit in Sept last year, to the $25.43 (how do you get that figure when toll costs are all pretty evenly priced &#8211; it&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s $2.39 to take the M5).</p>
<p>Rip off bastards won&#8217;t have any more of my money. Good luck to the owners of the Lane Cove tunnel. I hope they file for bankruptcy.</p>
<p>And now they want to make the Pacific Hwy a toll road to fund the bits they&#8217;re fixing up&#8230; because our tax and rego isn&#8217;t enough to buy ourselves a &#8220;safe&#8221; road to travel on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve vented now. Time to go to bed.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Squishy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squishy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Foggy&lt;/b&gt;, you realise that you can take:

- James Ruse Drive
- (Kissing Point Rd + Silverwater Rd) or 
  Parramatta Rd
- M4
- Parramatta Rd
- City Rd/Bathurst St/Any of those roads to head to
- Southern Cross Drive

and get to the airport without paying tolls?

Alternatively if you don&#039;t know the toll-free routes, take James Ruse Drive, Victoria Road and the Cross City Tunnel - only pay $3.50.

Likewise, you can skip the Eastern Distributor by going around down College St/Macquarie St and hopping on to the bridge near the Opera House.  The &quot;critical public infrastructure&quot; is still there.

It&#039;s your choice if you want to pay the tolls, but the existing infrastructure is all still there.  I, for one, can get from the airport to Castle Hill without paying a cent, so it&#039;s not my fault if you choose to pay $11.45 for the priviledge of trying to save some time.

I think that it&#039;s not fair that roads should be closed in order to boost profitability for the construction companies.  (Especially the peeps whose only roads to the rest of the world were blocked off by a CCT entrance - I personally think that&#039;s unlawful discrimination, but it never got brought up, so *shrugs*)

However, I think it&#039;s damn self-righteous of people to think that they &#039;have&#039; to pay all these tolls when the ordinary roads are there for use.  If you&#039;re living in North Sydney and complain about the Bridge toll, that&#039;s fair enough.  But if you&#039;re in the Hills District and have a dozen convenient ways of getting to the same place without going an hour out of your way, then you&#039;re just a whinger.

Btw alborz, it should probably be 9000 cars per day.  At the moment, it reads more like 4000 reduced by 25% to 3000.  Again, sorry for being nitpicky :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Foggy</b>, you realise that you can take:</p>
<p>- James Ruse Drive<br />
- (Kissing Point Rd + Silverwater Rd) or<br />
  Parramatta Rd<br />
- M4<br />
- Parramatta Rd<br />
- City Rd/Bathurst St/Any of those roads to head to<br />
- Southern Cross Drive</p>
<p>and get to the airport without paying tolls?</p>
<p>Alternatively if you don&#8217;t know the toll-free routes, take James Ruse Drive, Victoria Road and the Cross City Tunnel &#8211; only pay $3.50.</p>
<p>Likewise, you can skip the Eastern Distributor by going around down College St/Macquarie St and hopping on to the bridge near the Opera House.  The &#8220;critical public infrastructure&#8221; is still there.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your choice if you want to pay the tolls, but the existing infrastructure is all still there.  I, for one, can get from the airport to Castle Hill without paying a cent, so it&#8217;s not my fault if you choose to pay $11.45 for the priviledge of trying to save some time.</p>
<p>I think that it&#8217;s not fair that roads should be closed in order to boost profitability for the construction companies.  (Especially the peeps whose only roads to the rest of the world were blocked off by a CCT entrance &#8211; I personally think that&#8217;s unlawful discrimination, but it never got brought up, so *shrugs*)</p>
<p>However, I think it&#8217;s damn self-righteous of people to think that they &#8216;have&#8217; to pay all these tolls when the ordinary roads are there for use.  If you&#8217;re living in North Sydney and complain about the Bridge toll, that&#8217;s fair enough.  But if you&#8217;re in the Hills District and have a dozen convenient ways of getting to the same place without going an hour out of your way, then you&#8217;re just a whinger.</p>
<p>Btw alborz, it should probably be 9000 cars per day.  At the moment, it reads more like 4000 reduced by 25% to 3000.  Again, sorry for being nitpicky <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Foggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to MacCriminals and their mates, a round trip to the airport to will cost someone from the Hills District the following:
To Airport
 - $4.40 M2 toll
 - $2.55 Lane Cove Tunnel toll
 - $3.00 Harbour Tunnel toll
 - Macquarie Airport parking toll ($7 per half hour)

Return Home
 - $4.50 Eastern Distributor toll
 - $2.55 Lane Cove Tunnel toll
 - $4.40 M2 toll

Total Tolls (excluding Macquarie Airport parking scam) = $9.95 + $11.45 = $21.40

We used to have governments that were very good at building and maintaining critical public infrastructure. Now we have governments who are brilliant at selling off critical infrastructure and dividing the proceeds amongst their accomplices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to MacCriminals and their mates, a round trip to the airport to will cost someone from the Hills District the following:<br />
To Airport<br />
 &#8211; $4.40 M2 toll<br />
 &#8211; $2.55 Lane Cove Tunnel toll<br />
 &#8211; $3.00 Harbour Tunnel toll<br />
 &#8211; Macquarie Airport parking toll ($7 per half hour)</p>
<p>Return Home<br />
 &#8211; $4.50 Eastern Distributor toll<br />
 &#8211; $2.55 Lane Cove Tunnel toll<br />
 &#8211; $4.40 M2 toll</p>
<p>Total Tolls (excluding Macquarie Airport parking scam) = $9.95 + $11.45 = $21.40</p>
<p>We used to have governments that were very good at building and maintaining critical public infrastructure. Now we have governments who are brilliant at selling off critical infrastructure and dividing the proceeds amongst their accomplices.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similar experience with me as they have moved the 80km/h speed change down to Wollongong up the road by a few kms. If I see cops hiding where they just changed the speed I&#039;m going to click.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar experience with me as they have moved the 80km/h speed change down to Wollongong up the road by a few kms. If I see cops hiding where they just changed the speed I&#8217;m going to click.</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all that Squishy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all that Squishy</p>
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