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		<title>By: BlueMan</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33235/karma-to-the-rescue-caradvice-comments/#comment-144156</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DesignEng Says: 
July 1st, 2009 at 1:37 pm 
But I don’t see how giving a “registered user” tag to those that want it, so that they can protect a unique identity from being plagerised, would have any negative impact on the casual/once off poster.
There are sites out there that have registered and unregistered users.


alborz Says: 
July 1st, 2009 at 2:04 pm 
DesignEng, yes that is the next option along our path to have a working comment system.


OK guys, BRING IT ON!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DesignEng Says:<br />
July 1st, 2009 at 1:37 pm<br />
But I don’t see how giving a “registered user” tag to those that want it, so that they can protect a unique identity from being plagerised, would have any negative impact on the casual/once off poster.<br />
There are sites out there that have registered and unregistered users.</p>
<p>alborz Says:<br />
July 1st, 2009 at 2:04 pm<br />
DesignEng, yes that is the next option along our path to have a working comment system.</p>
<p>OK guys, BRING IT ON!!</p>
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		<title>By: DesignEng©™</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33235/karma-to-the-rescue-caradvice-comments/#comment-143990</link>
		<dc:creator>DesignEng©™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two weeks in and it&#039;s now gone altogether. Is this permanent or temporary for tweaking?

Personally, I haven&#039;t found much difference in the quality of posts - too much abusive off-topic garbage gets left on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two weeks in and it&#8217;s now gone altogether. Is this permanent or temporary for tweaking?</p>
<p>Personally, I haven&#8217;t found much difference in the quality of posts &#8211; too much abusive off-topic garbage gets left on.</p>
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		<title>By: DesignEng©™</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33235/karma-to-the-rescue-caradvice-comments/#comment-141755</link>
		<dc:creator>DesignEng©™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, 1 week in and plenty of valid on-topic comments have been maxed out negative, yet dozens of off-topic, or abusive or spurious spams still remain.
It would appear that although a fun little tool, this hasn&#039;t really had any positive effect on the quality of comments.

What are the thoughts of other readers?

Please leave comment, so that this might evolve, rather than just voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, 1 week in and plenty of valid on-topic comments have been maxed out negative, yet dozens of off-topic, or abusive or spurious spams still remain.<br />
It would appear that although a fun little tool, this hasn&#8217;t really had any positive effect on the quality of comments.</p>
<p>What are the thoughts of other readers?</p>
<p>Please leave comment, so that this might evolve, rather than just voting.</p>
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		<title>By: NacaYoda</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33235/karma-to-the-rescue-caradvice-comments/#comment-140794</link>
		<dc:creator>NacaYoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you need to rename the &quot;Vote&quot; prompt for this functionality. I believe people are using it as an &quot;Agree/Disagree&quot; system, not realising it is actually a vetting tool.

The prompt for casting a vote should be more relevant.
- Okay?
- Relevant?
- On topic?

At present I think people are using the tool, incorrectly, to rate whether they like the content or not. Disagreeing with someone&#039;s opinion is different from voting them off the island... Clarify the interface folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you need to rename the &#8220;Vote&#8221; prompt for this functionality. I believe people are using it as an &#8220;Agree/Disagree&#8221; system, not realising it is actually a vetting tool.</p>
<p>The prompt for casting a vote should be more relevant.<br />
- Okay?<br />
- Relevant?<br />
- On topic?</p>
<p>At present I think people are using the tool, incorrectly, to rate whether they like the content or not. Disagreeing with someone&#8217;s opinion is different from voting them off the island&#8230; Clarify the interface folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarain Missile®™</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33235/karma-to-the-rescue-caradvice-comments/#comment-140513</link>
		<dc:creator>Bavarain Missile®™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug have seen my posts on this thread that have no voting system on them ?

This is why...........

quote alborz Says:
July 1st, 2009 at 12:07 pm

Each comment that gets “hidden” will be reviewed by our Staff daily. So no legitimate comments will go missing. &quot;

My comments got reviewed straight away yesterday and were reposted in minutes because the system works.

Your first post isn&#039;t worthy of a comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug have seen my posts on this thread that have no voting system on them ?</p>
<p>This is why&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>quote alborz Says:<br />
July 1st, 2009 at 12:07 pm</p>
<p>Each comment that gets “hidden” will be reviewed by our Staff daily. So no legitimate comments will go missing. &#8221;</p>
<p>My comments got reviewed straight away yesterday and were reposted in minutes because the system works.</p>
<p>Your first post isn&#8217;t worthy of a comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33235/karma-to-the-rescue-caradvice-comments/#comment-140510</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry PC but I still don&#039;t think you understand the meaning of my original post:

I stated &quot;Lets ALL vote Bavarian Missile’s comments down so they get removed straight away!&quot;
Hypothesize with me:
If all readers did vote an individual&#039;s comments/posts down, wouldn&#039;t this mean that the posts would automatically be hidden as soon as there were more than nine &#039;Thumbs Downs&#039;?
This is how I interpret the sentence “If enough negative votes are collected (9 more than positive votes), the poster’s comment will automatically be buried”

The quote you posted indicates that over time most post should have an even number of negative and positive votes.
This is true, I already understand that posts will remain if feedback is more or less even. I hadn&#039;t stated otherwise - However this is not the case in the scenario that I suggested - where all voters give negative votes.

&#039;Inciting an argument&#039; is a strong phrase in this case. I&#039;d call this a discussion - but I guess that&#039;s up to the moderators. I&#039;m simply clarifying the new &#039;vote&#039; system - does this not add to the discussion?

There must be something in the code of conduct against insulting poster&#039;s intelligence, or discriminating against people with low IQs. Everyone should have an opportunity to post.
Unless of course your comments are also tounge-in-cheek!
And no I still haven&#039;t read the code of conduct. I&#039;m at work and will check it later if I&#039;m still interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry PC but I still don&#8217;t think you understand the meaning of my original post:</p>
<p>I stated &#8220;Lets ALL vote Bavarian Missile’s comments down so they get removed straight away!&#8221;<br />
Hypothesize with me:<br />
If all readers did vote an individual&#8217;s comments/posts down, wouldn&#8217;t this mean that the posts would automatically be hidden as soon as there were more than nine &#8216;Thumbs Downs&#8217;?<br />
This is how I interpret the sentence “If enough negative votes are collected (9 more than positive votes), the poster’s comment will automatically be buried”</p>
<p>The quote you posted indicates that over time most post should have an even number of negative and positive votes.<br />
This is true, I already understand that posts will remain if feedback is more or less even. I hadn&#8217;t stated otherwise &#8211; However this is not the case in the scenario that I suggested &#8211; where all voters give negative votes.</p>
<p>&#8216;Inciting an argument&#8217; is a strong phrase in this case. I&#8217;d call this a discussion &#8211; but I guess that&#8217;s up to the moderators. I&#8217;m simply clarifying the new &#8216;vote&#8217; system &#8211; does this not add to the discussion?</p>
<p>There must be something in the code of conduct against insulting poster&#8217;s intelligence, or discriminating against people with low IQs. Everyone should have an opportunity to post.<br />
Unless of course your comments are also tounge-in-cheek!<br />
And no I still haven&#8217;t read the code of conduct. I&#8217;m at work and will check it later if I&#8217;m still interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If IQ tests were given to the .018% who post omments, then only .0018% would remain.

Problem with that approach is, even highly intelligent people can post utter crap at times.

Non-registration is the problem; anyone can use any name and any e-mail address and post 20 comments in a row.

The thumbs system might help a bit, but when a perfectly good post like &quot;I really like the new Mazda 3&quot; gets thumbs down votes it really does make you want to ban the voter for abject stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If IQ tests were given to the .018% who post omments, then only .0018% would remain.</p>
<p>Problem with that approach is, even highly intelligent people can post utter crap at times.</p>
<p>Non-registration is the problem; anyone can use any name and any e-mail address and post 20 comments in a row.</p>
<p>The thumbs system might help a bit, but when a perfectly good post like &#8220;I really like the new Mazda 3&#8243; gets thumbs down votes it really does make you want to ban the voter for abject stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Plemem Chamber</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33235/karma-to-the-rescue-caradvice-comments/#comment-140505</link>
		<dc:creator>Plemem Chamber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wrong Doug ! 

As I said read !

Quote &quot; alborz Says:
July 1st, 2009 at 12:44 pm

You can use the Thumbs up and Down to agree or disagree with comments based on what they say (not because they break the conduct) - however by simple law of logic, if a comment is informative, the agreement disagreement will even out, and no more than 10 people will disagree compared to those who have agreed. &quot;

You will see some of BMs posts remain without the voting system ,now you know why! 

Perhaps you need to read the COC, inciting an argument is in there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wrong Doug ! </p>
<p>As I said read !</p>
<p>Quote &#8221; alborz Says:<br />
July 1st, 2009 at 12:44 pm</p>
<p>You can use the Thumbs up and Down to agree or disagree with comments based on what they say (not because they break the conduct) &#8211; however by simple law of logic, if a comment is informative, the agreement disagreement will even out, and no more than 10 people will disagree compared to those who have agreed. &#8221;</p>
<p>You will see some of BMs posts remain without the voting system ,now you know why! </p>
<p>Perhaps you need to read the COC, inciting an argument is in there!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33235/karma-to-the-rescue-caradvice-comments/#comment-140504</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit I haven&#039;t read the comments code of conduct.

&quot;If enough negative votes are collected (9 more than positive votes), the poster’s comment will automatically be buried&quot;

The above is what I was basing my (clearly tounge-in-cheek) comment on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit I haven&#8217;t read the comments code of conduct.</p>
<p>&#8220;If enough negative votes are collected (9 more than positive votes), the poster’s comment will automatically be buried&#8221;</p>
<p>The above is what I was basing my (clearly tounge-in-cheek) comment on.</p>
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		<title>By: Plemem Chamber</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33235/karma-to-the-rescue-caradvice-comments/#comment-140502</link>
		<dc:creator>Plemem Chamber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug is another that hasnt read or understood the new system.

Your theory will fail as long as BM continues to post comment on topic non abusive and not inciting arguments the post remains. 

Perhaps CA should IQ test people on this site before they can post. Nothing against you Doug :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug is another that hasnt read or understood the new system.</p>
<p>Your theory will fail as long as BM continues to post comment on topic non abusive and not inciting arguments the post remains. </p>
<p>Perhaps CA should IQ test people on this site before they can post. Nothing against you Doug <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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