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	<title>Comments on: Ford Australia posts $274m loss</title>
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		<title>By: Rocket Cover</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33165/ford-australia-posts-274m-loss/comment-page-2/#comment-139142</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocket Cover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too true The Saleman. Lets see Ford move forward now they have re structured</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too true The Saleman. Lets see Ford move forward now they have re structured</p>
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		<title>By: Mumble Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mumble Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay thanks Andrew M.  Next time I do, I&#039;ll have a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay thanks Andrew M.  Next time I do, I&#8217;ll have a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mate bought a second hand AU 3 years ago,the only thing thats failed so far has been the battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mate bought a second hand AU 3 years ago,the only thing thats failed so far has been the battery.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew M, I just didn`t like the look of the AU and thought the quality of the car was ordinary and my mate with the Taxi`s liked the EL`s he had alot better and were more reliable according to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew M, I just didn`t like the look of the AU and thought the quality of the car was ordinary and my mate with the Taxi`s liked the EL`s he had alot better and were more reliable according to him.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all responding about the taxi debate, all of my mates taxis are bought second hand and alot of his fellow Taxi drivers do so also, so the Ford offering thing is, I think way off the mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all responding about the taxi debate, all of my mates taxis are bought second hand and alot of his fellow Taxi drivers do so also, so the Ford offering thing is, I think way off the mark</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add to the Taxi debate,
I was told by a Taxi owner that they prefer the falcons not only because they last a bit better, but also because if something does go wrong with them, they arent as expensive to fix.

Also Duck, as already told, Ford stopped offering Taxi pack falcons ages ago.
Next time you jump in a Taxi, or see one with its doors open, have a look around the door sill and inside edges of the door.
You will see that the orange colour has merely been painted over the top of another, and to save money when they paint them in taxi logos, they dont do a proper job and paint the hidden edges

Charles,
Im interested as to why you refer to the AU falcon as a &quot;Lemon&quot;.......
The only flop it made was on the sales chart.
The vehicle itself was quite reliable, and since it had far less recalls than the VE, does that make the VE an even bigger Lemon??? I dont think so</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to the Taxi debate,<br />
I was told by a Taxi owner that they prefer the falcons not only because they last a bit better, but also because if something does go wrong with them, they arent as expensive to fix.</p>
<p>Also Duck, as already told, Ford stopped offering Taxi pack falcons ages ago.<br />
Next time you jump in a Taxi, or see one with its doors open, have a look around the door sill and inside edges of the door.<br />
You will see that the orange colour has merely been painted over the top of another, and to save money when they paint them in taxi logos, they dont do a proper job and paint the hidden edges</p>
<p>Charles,<br />
Im interested as to why you refer to the AU falcon as a &#8220;Lemon&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
The only flop it made was on the sales chart.<br />
The vehicle itself was quite reliable, and since it had far less recalls than the VE, does that make the VE an even bigger Lemon??? I dont think so</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mumble Duck Says: 
June 21st, 2009 at 6:56 pm 

Actually MD, the larger majority of Taxis are tending to buy Ex Govco Vehicles with up to 40K on the clock for under $20k...
Also if the purchase price was taken into account then the Fleet would be full of Aurions and Camrys becuase they can be bought for around $7,357.32 less than what a Falcon is available for.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mumble Duck Says:<br />
June 21st, 2009 at 6:56 pm </p>
<p>Actually MD, the larger majority of Taxis are tending to buy Ex Govco Vehicles with up to 40K on the clock for under $20k&#8230;<br />
Also if the purchase price was taken into account then the Fleet would be full of Aurions and Camrys becuase they can be bought for around $7,357.32 less than what a Falcon is available for&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Limited Slip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limited Slip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MumbleDuck......you are wrong. It is Holden who prop sales of Commodore up by making no money on the fleet sales. Commodore is basically a fleet vehicle because out of all the Commodes sold last year only 13,000 wnet to private buyers, so that proof it is just a fleet vehicle. 

Ford are actually making good money on FG because they base model XT is selling at very low volume of total sales.....i think about 4% so Ford are selling mainly G6 and XR&#039;s so their is greater profit in those, unlike Holden who sell mainly to fleets at low or no profit.

And did you know that Holden cheat on monthly sales figures? They do.......thay count cars delivered to the dealer as sales even when they are not sold! Typical Holden......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MumbleDuck&#8230;&#8230;you are wrong. It is Holden who prop sales of Commodore up by making no money on the fleet sales. Commodore is basically a fleet vehicle because out of all the Commodes sold last year only 13,000 wnet to private buyers, so that proof it is just a fleet vehicle. </p>
<p>Ford are actually making good money on FG because they base model XT is selling at very low volume of total sales&#8230;..i think about 4% so Ford are selling mainly G6 and XR&#8217;s so their is greater profit in those, unlike Holden who sell mainly to fleets at low or no profit.</p>
<p>And did you know that Holden cheat on monthly sales figures? They do&#8230;&#8230;.thay count cars delivered to the dealer as sales even when they are not sold! Typical Holden&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thenameless</title>
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		<dc:creator>thenameless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh you got me Mumble Duck.. Ok then, go drive an Omega and an XT. There you go.
And Ford do not do &quot;Taxi&quot; pricing anymore. Same pricing as any national fleet company. 
Most Taxis bought these days are used anyway. So what&#039;s the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh you got me Mumble Duck.. Ok then, go drive an Omega and an XT. There you go.<br />
And Ford do not do &#8220;Taxi&#8221; pricing anymore. Same pricing as any national fleet company.<br />
Most Taxis bought these days are used anyway. So what&#8217;s the point?</p>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33165/ford-australia-posts-274m-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-138606</link>
		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lots of cops on this site. Dial 000 and wait 2 hours for the cops. Those commodores are so slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lots of cops on this site. Dial 000 and wait 2 hours for the cops. Those commodores are so slow.</p>
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		<title>By: Abscess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abscess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mumble Duck - This site seems to have been invaded by propergander fairys lately,Charles is one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mumble Duck &#8211; This site seems to have been invaded by propergander fairys lately,Charles is one.</p>
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		<title>By: ABC</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33165/ford-australia-posts-274m-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-138604</link>
		<dc:creator>ABC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ComradeVodka Says: 
June 20th, 2009 at 10:45 pm 
&#039;Proof second rate cars just arent profitable.&#039;

Mate why is it then that VW made a loss on all the Mk5 Golf&#039;s they have been selling for the past few years then??
Is that a second rate car?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ComradeVodka Says:<br />
June 20th, 2009 at 10:45 pm<br />
&#8216;Proof second rate cars just arent profitable.&#8217;</p>
<p>Mate why is it then that VW made a loss on all the Mk5 Golf&#8217;s they have been selling for the past few years then??<br />
Is that a second rate car?</p>
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		<title>By: Mumble Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33165/ford-australia-posts-274m-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-138603</link>
		<dc:creator>Mumble Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, you are wrong.  It&#039;s got nothing to do with that.  The taxi driver was obviously a ford man.  It&#039;s because Ford does better fleet prices for the taxi companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, you are wrong.  It&#8217;s got nothing to do with that.  The taxi driver was obviously a ford man.  It&#8217;s because Ford does better fleet prices for the taxi companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Mumble Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/33165/ford-australia-posts-274m-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-138601</link>
		<dc:creator>Mumble Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thenameless, you obviously know noting!

Because it&#039;s called the &#039;Omega&#039; now since the launch of the VE.  It&#039;s not the &#039;Executive&#039; anymore silly.

Have you been sitiing in a locked up room for about 3 years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thenameless, you obviously know noting!</p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s called the &#8216;Omega&#8217; now since the launch of the VE.  It&#8217;s not the &#8216;Executive&#8217; anymore silly.</p>
<p>Have you been sitiing in a locked up room for about 3 years?</p>
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		<title>By: Mumble Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mumble Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see 2 Commodore&#039;s and 2 Nissan&#039;s in the picture.</description>
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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the Red Lion brand&#039;s greatest support Wheelnut?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the Red Lion brand&#8217;s greatest support Wheelnut?</p>
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		<title>By: Swagger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Falcons and Commodores are bogan cars,does that make European cars,wog cars?Calling some Australian people bogans,is no different then callling other Australian people Wogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Falcons and Commodores are bogan cars,does that make European cars,wog cars?Calling some Australian people bogans,is no different then callling other Australian people Wogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Webber Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webber Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VCT, which state are your based? And so ends another long night while all you others get to sleep! Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VCT, which state are your based? And so ends another long night while all you others get to sleep! Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Variable Cam Timing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Variable Cam Timing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Webber Fan.......I am a police officer too !!! 


eh179driver..you are a laugh ........have u tried to fit FG doors to a BA\F or vise versa? lol  That is the funniest thing I have heard on here.......shows you dont even look at cars you just sit there typing inane, stupid, ridiculous and very very uninformed and un-researched crap......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Webber Fan&#8230;&#8230;.I am a police officer too !!! </p>
<p>eh179driver..you are a laugh &#8230;&#8230;..have u tried to fit FG doors to a BA\F or vise versa? lol  That is the funniest thing I have heard on here&#8230;&#8230;.shows you dont even look at cars you just sit there typing inane, stupid, ridiculous and very very uninformed and un-researched crap&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Webber Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webber Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Variable Cam Timing - I am a Police Officer with over 15 years including persuit driving here in Melbourne. I read your comment with a bit of a grin. I am not sure where you get your information from, but having done interstate assignments, I am confident in saying that I have never heard of Commodores being called \&quot;tree magnets\&quot;. The rate of accidents for Commodores is probably on par with the other makes we use if you average out the time in service and distance traveled. One of the other comments said we have more Commodores than other makes. That is quite true. We built up a good relationship with the make during the 80\&#039;s and 90\&#039;s when they were the only brand with V8 engines. Id also have to say some of the comments about quality are a bit wide of the mark though. We give the cars a hard time and neither Falcon nor Holden give many problems. I&#039;m sure that is true of most regions. Anyway, meal break is over, back to work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Variable Cam Timing &#8211; I am a Police Officer with over 15 years including persuit driving here in Melbourne. I read your comment with a bit of a grin. I am not sure where you get your information from, but having done interstate assignments, I am confident in saying that I have never heard of Commodores being called \&#8221;tree magnets\&#8221;. The rate of accidents for Commodores is probably on par with the other makes we use if you average out the time in service and distance traveled. One of the other comments said we have more Commodores than other makes. That is quite true. We built up a good relationship with the make during the 80\&#8217;s and 90\&#8217;s when they were the only brand with V8 engines. Id also have to say some of the comments about quality are a bit wide of the mark though. We give the cars a hard time and neither Falcon nor Holden give many problems. I&#8217;m sure that is true of most regions. Anyway, meal break is over, back to work!</p>
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