Comments on: Honda corrects Jazz ANCAP statement

By: Tony

Tony — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:44:28 +0000

funnily enough the booted Jazz, the Honda City also has ESP delayed until late 2010… i personally find the copious advertising and stellar pricing and rabid fanboy-ism for this car rather pathetic given this fact alone

rather cynical of the entire industry and hype…

By: Frontman

Frontman — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:52:38 +0000

Funny thing is there were test done recently where the 5* Crash point scoring Jazz (Fitz I think in US) was crashed into an equally scoring Accord…. Bugger the ESP, give me the bigger car for safety! Try Googling “Small Car Test: Three Gruesome Slow-Motion Crash …”
you see hwat I mean

By: Stevothedevo

Stevothedevo — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:49:42 +0000

Doesn’t matter about the number of stars when you hit a 4WD weighing more than twice as much.

By: pasthondafan

pasthondafan — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:56:05 +0000

I think there is a simple answer here. Don’t but a Honda Jazz until 2011. Until then buy a Mazda 2 or a safe korean car.

It is not good enough that honda doesn’t care enough about the lives of australains to get us safety features available in almost every KOREAN car.

Another good question is how does a honda civic designed in 2006 rate so poorly in safety ratings?

Remeber the good old days when Honda was a leading car company and not a poor clone of toyota. hondas are second rate in these current times.

By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:32:59 +0000

i am not sure making the NCAP/ANCAP more complicated is of benefit

i also question the need to measure ‘handling’ in one kinda of raw metric

the americans love their skidpan testing as some kind of measure of lateral grip but i think it’s a waste of time

i agree that a good handling car like a Porsche 911 in inherently safer at avoiding accidents than say a Nissan Navara ute that is prone to overturning on the same speed corner… but that skirts into the borders of performance handling rather than raw crash safety

in a perfect world i could care less about ’seat belt’ reminders… but i would kinda like a short sorta checklist of what a modern car should have… just to make comparison shopping easier

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:32:43 +0000

personally i’d rather have the new fiesta. it does seem disappointing that Honda are so slow with ESP, sure its not the only crash avoidance tech, but its proven to greatly reduce the risk of crashing, and given its already developed and on sale in Europe, its hard not to feel slighted that Honda Aus doesn’t think we need it.

By: MxMan

MxMan — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:54:13 +0000

I realise the need for such safety as standard, but do not understand why the ‘CAPS’ have focused on ESP when other measures of crash avoidance are ignored. The effectiveness of individual ESP are not measured, nor are the inherant road handling abilities of cars measured. Isn’t the point of these tests to communicate how a car crashes, not how it avoids a crash?

By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Bavarian Missile (.)(.) — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:29:01 +0000

My sons friends wife died in one of these recently,front on with a Commodore.

Her husband regrets putting her in one of these little buzz boxes now!

4 or 5 stars Ive always thought these little cars are just dangerous!

By: Vid_Ghost

Vid_Ghost — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:07:00 +0000

Mazda 2 blows the Jazz out of the water and comes in at a cheaper price with a more powerful 1.5L Engine and made in Japane… lol I30 is even better but costs more! then the mazda 2, Jazz is priced almost at a Mazda 3 neo level

By: FrugalOne

FrugalOne — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:20:03 +0000

^^^^^Tony

Well written!

I spoke to a senior engineer from honda about the jizz at the M/M/S he claimed it had be done and signed off.

My feeling was that it was months away, by the above it appears to be YEARS away.

Just buy a superior and CHEAPER Hyundai i30 [Fitted Std. with VSC] and be done with it.

I don’t know how haonda have the gaul to charge so much for a car that is made in Thailand and is imported duty free while Korean and Japanese are not.

Shame haonda shame!

Cheers

F-0

By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:05:19 +0000

due late 2010???

i wonder what reason there is for the greater than one year wait for this almost mandatory feature?

in one year one can’t even imagine the amount of change in the automotive landscape