2009 Lotus Evora pricing and dates

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By David Twomey | June 05th, 2009

The countdown to the exciting Lotus Evora has started with the initial media impressions of the 3.5-litre, mid-engine, 2+2 coupe drawing hugely positive comments and praise, and Lotus Cars Australia confirming the local pricing of the 2+2 and 2+0 Evora.

We actually have to agree with Lotus when it says the Evora will be the most significant Lotus car to be launched in the past decade and promises to be one of the most exciting new cars of its time.

The all-new Lotus combines traditional Lotus ride and handling attributes with a large, practical platform encompassing a whole new drivetrain.

The Evoras will enter the market as the only mid-engined 2+2 in production. The new car is a more holistic offering than the Elise, Exige and Europa models that have made the brand so iconic.

Despite exceptional international demand for the car, Lotus Cars Australia has secured a number of Evoras for Australia to satisfy Australian demand.

The initial global Evora production will consist of higher specification vehicles including the following (although customer can also order vehicles to their own specification now, for later delivery):

2+2 seating configuration
Tech, Premium and Sport packs
Hi-power silver cast alloys
Bi-xenon headlamps
Alpine Imprint Audio System
Reversing camera
Electric powerfold mirrors

These initial ‘Launch Edition’ vehicles include either Ardent Red or British Racing Green as standard, and all other colours from the Lotus range are available as a cost option.

The three option packs (standard on the Launch Edition) will be available as a cost option once the initial run of higher specification ‘Launch Edition’ vehicles is completed.

The Tech, Sport and Premium packs add items such as a touch-screen display, iPod connection, cruise control, parking sensors, accent lighting, full leather trimming in selected colour, traction control, sports diffuser and switchable sports mode

A sports ratio six-speed transmission is also available to experience the maximum performance offered by the V6 engine, combining a closer stack of ratios for improved acceleration and greater in-gear response.

As Lotus says the Evora is designed for people who desire exotic sports car characteristics of stunning design, exclusivity and performance, being powered by a 3.5-litre, V6 producing 206kW and 342Nm, and using innovative lightweight chassis technology.

Performance is spectacular with 0-100km/h in just over five seconds, combined with low emissions and fuel consumption of just 205g/km and 8.7l/100km (combined highway/urban cycle).

Inside, the Lotus Evora cocoons occupants with sumptuous leather surfaces juxtaposed with contemporary high-tech features.

With driver focused instrumentation the occupants sit in cockpit-like surroundings with flush-mounted controls that glow with blue LED haloes and stylised gauges.

Styled in-house by Lotus Design, the Evora’s sophisticated and attention-snaring lines brilliantly disguise its ability to accommodate passengers in the rear of the cabin, giving the car the external characteristics of a small, nimble sportscar belying its real exterior and internal space.

As well as being sold in a 2+2 configuration, the car will also be available as a two-seater, the space in the rear being allocated to luggage storage. An automatic version is in future planning.

The entry level Lotus Evora 2+0 will be priced at $149,990 (recommended price before statutory and delivery charges), with the Lotus Evora 2+2 being priced at $156,990 (recommended price before statutory and delivery charges).

The 2+2 adds the convenience and practicality of rear seats in addition to a host of luxury appointments both standard and optional including Alpine audio system, reversing camera and cruise control.

For peace of mind, the Lotus Evora has a three-year 100,000km whole vehicle warranty.

While the first customer deliveries are currently taking place in Europe, Australians will get the chance to experience the V6 Evora for themselves for the first time in the third quarter of 2009.

Both the initial higher specification vehicles and customer specified vehicles can be ordered now through the Lotus dealer network in Australia.

tommo

0-100 in just over 5 seconds is hardly spectacular for a $150k car..
JML

Tommo, recent Lotuses have never been about being the fastest in a straight line, they’ve alwaysbeen about “strong” rather than super performance, combined with ultra-light weight and physics-defying handling to produce just about the closest thing to a hi-po go-kart you can achieve with a closed roof.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Neither is the 3.5-litre, V6 that produces 206kW.

Cant be that light weight !

Still for a Lotus it doesnt look too bad but at $156,000 I can think of other car I would prefer for that money.
SteveH

We all know where the engine comes from though, don’t we BM?

Lotus’ have never really been about the straight line drag, more about the handling and speed around a track which is why they focus on weight reduction rather than outright power.
tommo

I know Lotus’ have always been more about light weight, but the article describes the 0-100 in just over 5 seconds as spectacular, which it simply isn’t. And I agree BM, surely they could’ve got more out of that 3.5.
RoFlmaTiC

No doubt they will launch a supercharged variant in the near future which should achieve 4 second figures though.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

hahaha, No I dont actually but I can see your tongue in cheek expression so I think Ive just worked it out :S

I know that Lotus are known for making track cars mostly Steve but I would be interested to see what it weighs in at!

156k ????????? For that money Ill take an M3 or R35 GT-R both better around most tracks thanks
tommo

You probably guessed it BM, but its Toyota, pretty much straight from the Aurion
SteveH

Pretty sure it is the Toyota 3.5 litre isn’t it? I know they use Toyota engines in their other cars.

I would think that this would be quicker than an M3 around a track, but not sure about a GTR. Would most likely depend on the type of track. If this thing is too heavy it would be a real shame as light weight is what Lotus pride themselves on
Jimmy

Am I missing something here? I am COMPLETELY underwhelmed by this car.

For the hype that has been surrounding it for the last year or so – it looks like it is straight out of 1997, by those figures the engine is seriously underperforming, and it is in the same price bracket as an M3, S5, C63, GT-R!

If you want a fast car for $150,000 that carries four people, and doesn’t look like it is a hangover from the late 90′s, choose any of the above before the Evora.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Yeah Ive worked that out,Toyota engines.

May depend on the track Steve,I looked up some times around Wakefield Park,top ten as follows for the Lotus Exige S PP.Its 0-100 time is 4.6 sec and weighs in at 935 kgs.

This thing is slower than the Exige and has more grunt,Im thinking its no light weight.

Porsche 911 GT2 1.05
Lambo Murc 1.06
Porsche 911 GT3 1.07.40
Porsche 911 Turbo S 1.07.60
BMW M3 M-DCT Coupe 1.07.80
Lotus Exige S PP 1.08.10
riceboy

i’m surprised they haven’t been able to tune the Aurion engine to produce more killerwasps, with air intake, timing, engine mapping, exhaust, etc that Lotus is supposedly good at doing…
SteveH

That really suprises me about the M3 being quicker than the Exige around Wakefield. Maybe the M3 isn’t so bad after all Are the times all from the same day?
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

No Steve,the top 4 were different months and years.The M3 ,Lotus,and also the SL63 AMG {which also did the same time as the Lotus} were on the same day.

Pity that M division never made the CSL in the E92 cause it would of been better again!
Lukaas

The side profile looks almost identical to the SW20 MR2.

And I think the 3.5 liter is from Toyota. That engine is actually pretty good engine, mate it with a 6 speed manual and tune it accordingly it is a pretty good engine by anyones standards.
Pious

Got a fair bit of history, though, and I’d pay a premium for that. If you could fit kids in the back comfortably, it’d be worth $150K to me. If they arent real seats though, $100K max.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Are we getting a de-tuned version here ? Cause from what I read about it, its faster than this.

http://www.lotusevora.com/pdf/Lotus%20Evora.pdf
Mitch

It looks like they are using the 2GR-FE. they should have used the 2GR-FSE (Direct Injection) 232kw, 377nm from the IS 350.
Daniel

Completely agree with Jimmy… have no idea why this car is getting so much press. Yawn.
Simon

It’s a Lotus.
(A purist thing.)
Having said that tho, most Lotus fans would probably take the smaller capacity, forced induction route in keeping with the light weight, highly agile tradition.
As for the IS 350 V6, I would be very surprised if Toyota/Lexus let anyone else use them. It would reduce their “exclusivity” which, let’s face it, is what sells Lexus.
This is a huge attempt by Lotus to increase their market appeal. It will get lots of people into a Lotus that otherwise wouldn’t (and probably wouldn’t fit!).
Pops

Styling looks dated to me. Headlights & odd glassware proportions shown on the profile shot scream 90s concept car.
ElecEng

BM, that’s 4.9sec from 0-60mph, which translate approximately 5.0sec from 0-100km/h. Still, I would still prefer M3 or GT-R for that matter, at least they have a boot.

That V6 is only VVT-i, i’m sure they can change the rods to include lift (then becomes VVTL-i), then add a supercharger….but we all know then it will cost you more.
http://skyline The Salesman

Can we have a V12 option? Lotus has always been about performance through light weight so i think a V6 will destroy the nimble performance of the Lotus. I would like to see a turbo four with an AWD system putting the power on the ground. It would be lighter and you would be able to corner at brake neck speed.
RoFlmaTiC

I just looked up the weight of this engine to be around 163kg, which although isn’t anything to boast about, isn’t a huge increase compared to the 2zzge which is 115kg but makes about 30% less power.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

arggggggggghhhhhhh,A blower on a 3.5 Toyota engine ,is there a Fire Extinguisher on board in the Lotus? hahaha
crouchy

Hmm i cant say im not surprised by the pricing and im also a little underwhelmed by the styling and performance.

Those who have driven an aurion will agree that the ENGINE has some serious pull and feels strong like it wants to be driven so it should be interesting to see how this thing goes….
Mike

for that dough just for a go kart with an aurion engine. wtf. Only purists must buy this? An m3, gt-r any day of the week.
Alex

I find it quite interesting that people keep bringing the GT-R and the M3 up. I mean no offense to the GT-R lovers but the fact is that the GT-R just isn’t all that good. I mean, it’s fantastic at high speeds but the fact is that one would probably spend 99% if not 100% of their time in a GT-R simply on the road and on the road at normal speeds, the GT-R is no more fun than a Nissan Primera. I know that sounds a bit harsh but it’s true. This car may not be the fastest thing in the world but it is meant to be great fun and it is getting very good reviews.
I think it’s closest competitor would be the Porsche Cayman S, but considering how perfect that car is in every way, how could you buy this? I had this on my list at one point but now I’m not sure if I wouldn’t just prefer a manual Cayman S. The Cayman is even better than a 911 in many areas, including handling, and even if this car is for purists it’s not as if Porsche’s aren’t. The manual Cayman S is even being picked over the GT-R in most group tests in magazines I read. It’s just that good.
This does looks absolutely fantastic though.
Wheelnut

Lotus do use Toyota engines in their other cars such as the exige but with the engines in those cars Lotus manage to produce almost twice as much power as the World’s biggest wealthiest car manufacturer can

As Jeremy Clarkson said “it slightly embarrasing for Toyota being out gunned by a much smaller car company.. If Lotus can do it why don’t Toyota?”

So who knows with a bit more work maybe Lotus will be able to double the power of the “F1 Inspired” 3.5 Litre Auion V6 to 400Kw!
RoFlmaTiC

Every time Wheelnut I correct you for claiming that Lotus make twice the power from the same engine as Toyota does and everytime you either don’t read or ignore it!

To set the record straight (again), there are 2 engines used in the exige/elise in various markets around the world.

One is the 1zz-fe which is a 1.8L engine making 100kw or so, and is found in previous generation corollas. In some markets this is used in the elise.

The other is the 2zz-ge which is another 1.8L toyota engine making roughly 141kw, found in the discontinued celica, corolla sportivo and matrix in the USA. This is typically the engine found in the exige.

With the 2zz-ge, as far as I am aware, Lotus only does a mild tune of the ecu which gives the car something like 5hp more.

Then you’ve got the supercharged exige models which make 164kw from the 2zz-ge engine.

Saying “Lotus manage to produce almost twice as much power as the World’s biggest wealthiest car manufacturer can” is simply totally incorrect.
RoFlmaTiC

http://www.caradvice.com.au/18611/toyota-corolla-packed-with-a-lil-action/#comment-101161

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Wheelnut

Okay saying “almost twice as much” may be a bit misleading However; the fact remains that they are Toyota engines and Lotus do get more power out of them than what Toyota do..

Therefore; given that Toyota are bigger wealthier and have more resources than little old Lotus why can’t they or why don’t they do similar modifications/enhancements to the engines in the Corollas that Lotus do to the Toyota engines

For example the Corolla only produces what 90-100Kw whereas as you say the with the supercharged engine in the exige Lotus produses 164Kw.. 164Kw is almost twice as much isn’t it?

What I;m saying is that with all their technology and innovation if TRD did similar work to the Corolla as what Lotus do th the Exige than they would have a car which would improve their image no tto mention be a potential Golf GT-i beater. That is all
RoFlmaTiC

“For example the Corolla only produces what 90-100Kw whereas as you say the with the supercharged engine in the exige Lotus produses 164Kw.. 164Kw is almost twice as much isn’t it?”

NO BECAUSE THEY AREN’T USING THE SAME ENGINES.

The corolla gets 100kw which surprise surprise, despite the “tuning” by lotus, is exactly the same power output as the engine in the elise.

The different engine in the celica/corolla sportivo/matrix xrs which gets 141kw (toyota tuned) gets 141kw-145kw depending on where your source of reading is.

Lotus get a whopping 23kw more out of the engine using their heralded tuning skills by bolting on a blower. Toyota could have done the same but the market just wasn’t out there!
crouchy

I think something needs to be settled here.

WHEELNUT – The reason toyota dont sell a supercharged TURD Corolla is because there isnt a big enough market for it. Yes, they are the biggest and richest car maker but there is a reason for this and one of the reasons is that they generally play it safe. Motoring enthusiasts dont appreciate this but someone does.
RoFlmaTiC

I’ll put it in your language Wheelnut…

The LT1 is a 5.7L GM engine and lets say it makes 225kw, give or take a few.

The LS6 is another 5.7L GM engine and lets say it makes 302kw.

Say a tuning company such as http://www.dynotech-eng.com/ls1_ls6_magnuson.htm can chuck on a blower on the ls6 and take the power up to 353kw at the wheels.

It would be wrong of me to say that this dynotech company, with infinitely smaller resources than GM (though that could be debatable now… ) can double the power of the GM engine? After all 353kw at the wheels is almost double 225kw at the crank right?
Vince

haha 150k and that’s without ANY of the options and the options list is large, there goes 200k for a Lotus slower than an Exige, no thanks, you can keep it, it’s pretty ugly as well. C63 or GTR will get my coin. Where do they get off charging these inhumane prices? haha
Wheelnut

I know they’re not exactly the same engines but they are still toyota engines – that is they are engines that were/are designed and built by then sourced from Toyota

For a company that is much smaller with less finances an resources to be able to produce a car and work the same or similar engine that Toyota used is a bit embarassing is it not?

I mean its like the Factory BMW Merc-Benz Mclaren or Toyota F1 teams being beaten by a lower level team who they supply engines to.. The lesser team is able to do more than what the factory can/could with something that the factory designed and built

Or one of the European car companies such as Gumpert being able to do more with a BMW engine or whatever. I mean Koenigsegg extracted more out of the Old Ford V8 than ford did….
Which is one of the things that makes cars like the Lotus so impressive – they can do so musch more with so little

If there isn’t a market for a turbocharged or supercharged Corolla then how do you explain the popularity of the cars such as the Golf GT-i and all the other Hot Hatches etc?
Wheelnut

BTW the difference between Lotus being able to do more with a Toyota engine than Toyota did/do/could as apposed to Dynotech doing more with a Holden engine than Holden did/do/could is that Dynotech or CAPA don’t design engineer or build cars –

Noto nly that but CAPA are an aftermarket performance workshop and any work they do to your car usually voids your new car warranty. Whereas the work Lotus do to the Toyota engine is all certified and covered by their factory warranty

I mean If I wanted to and if I owned one; I could take my new Corolla to CAPA and [even though they would probably laugh at me] they would be able to find a way of getting more power out of it – maybe as much as a Lotus with the help of a hair dryer and a bit of tweaking or remapping of the ECU but CAPA aren’t a recognised car company or a recognised associate of Toyota – like TRD is
RoFlmaTiC

I think you’re just trying to stir me up now Wheelnut…

I think I did an adequate explanation even for a mildly intellectually challenged person. Do you seriously still not understand?

Lotus are NOT making a 100kw engine into a 164kw engine.

They are making a 142kw engine from a 141kw engine, and in other circumstances (BOLT ON MODIFICATION, NOT TUNING) making 164kw from a 141kw engine.
RoFlmaTiC

Read up for yourself:

http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/thecar/engine/toyota.html

” Toyota’s 2ZZ-GE versions found in the U.S. make ten fewer horsepower at 180 hp than the same engine in the rest of the world which has 190 hp. However Lotus has retuned the 2ZZ-GE for use in Elise, smoothing out the torque dip at the 6000 rpm cam changeover point and strengthening the torque in the other rpm ranges. In addition to the improved torque Lotus brought the peak horsepower back up to 190 in their U.S. version of the engine. These adjustments were largely accomplished by reprogramming the Engine Control Unit (ECU or engine computer). Toyota has apparently expressed interest in the changes Lotus made to broaden and even the torque and increase the power. Changes to the Lotus version of the engine are not purely electronic, however, as a new intake and exhaust are also fitted. The exhaust is so fully optimized that altering it reportedly results in a significant power loss. Aftermarket tuners and parts buyers beware!”

So it appears that the power outputs are equal in markets outside the USA! Just slight improvements in torque etc, largely due to a different exhaust and intake.

You still stand by the point that Lotus is a much smaller company than Toyota and is “outgunning them”. Ever considered the price difference between the cars themselves? Thats all it comes down to… I can guarantee you that if Toyota ever sold a celica / corolla sportivo with a 2zz-ge engine that cost the same as a lotus exige then, they would have got 200kw out of the engine easily.
Alex

Attention RoFlmaTiC and Wheelnut, you are being hilariously pathetic and trivial.
Andronicus

I really love the interior but the rest of it already looks outdated.

And at that price tag I could think of many other beautiful machines to purchase.
Wheelnut

The naturally aspirated 1.8L 2zz-ge engine produced approx 100Kw correct?
Then when Toyota made some modifications and bolted a [TRD]supercharger onto the 1.8L 2zz-ge engine; they increased the power from 100Kw to approx 140Kw correct
However when Lotus made some modifications and bolted a supercharger onto the 1.8L 2zz-ge engine they increased the power from 100Kw to approx 165Kw correct?

Yes the Lotus may only be 25Kw more than what Toyota did..
However; when you go “back to basics” that is the naturally aspirated 1.8L 2zz-ge 100Kw engine – a 64Kw increase in power [which the Lotus produces] is almost twice as much of an increase than the 41Kw increase in power which Toyota got with the exact same engine.

Because I believe that Lotus don’t actually start with the 140Kw enhanced engine from Toyota they go “back to basics” with the the naturally aspirated 1.8L 2zz-ge 100Kw engine and do their own modifications etc..
Toyota have shown what the naturally aspirated 1.8L 2zz-ge 100Kw engine is capable of..
Lotus go that extra step further and release a bit more of its potential – so why couldn’t wouldn’t didn’t Toyota do it?
RoFlmaTiC

“The naturally aspirated 1.8L 2zz-ge engine produced approx 100Kw correct?”

Nope, incorrect… the 2zz-ge toyota engine makes 141kw naturally aspirated!

“Then when Toyota made some modifications and bolted a [TRD]supercharger onto the 1.8L 2zz-ge engine; they increased the power from 100Kw to approx 140Kw correct”

Nope, incorrect, see above.

“Because I believe that Lotus don’t actually start with the 140Kw enhanced engine from Toyota they go “back to basics” with the the naturally aspirated 1.8L 2zz-ge 100Kw engine and do their own modifications etc..”

That there is exactly your false assumption. There is no such thing as a 2zz-ge with 100kw. Although the 2 engines are from the same “family” of zz engines, the only thing similar really is the displacement. The 2zz achieves the far greater power because it has vvtL-i meaning 2 camshaft profiles, the aggressive one kicking in at 6000rpm and providing a huge boost of power.

“Lotus go that extra step further and release a bit more of its potential – so why couldn’t wouldn’t didn’t Toyota do it?”

Lotus do this using a blower! It’s like comparing apples and oranges… as Crouchy rightly pointed out, Toyota chose not to put a blower on the 2zz-ge, probably from a combination of lack of demand from the market, and perhaps not putting the engine under too much stress for longevity and reliability. And off course to cut the price down… how many people are going to buy a 80 grand celica?

Again to sum it up, Lotus take the naturally aspirated 141kw toyota engine and use it in their exige in Australia. The peak power stays the same but there are slight improvements in torque due to a different intake/exhaust used in the lotus cars.

Lotus decided to supercharge the engine to extract further power from it and get something like an extra 25kw. It’s not that impressive and it’s definitely not something Toyota can’t do, but they chose not to because they wanted to make their cars sub 40k!
Wheelnut

Okay – you proved your point.. I have read up about the 2zz-ge and I [unlike some people on this site] am able to admit that I am wrong – particularly when there is enough substantial evidence presented which shows contrary to my original point of view or way of thinking etc.

Kudos Roflmatic
Quick

Your’e all a bunch of fools.

Continue comparing this car to the GT-R and the M3.

This is a Cayman competitor, and doesn’t aim for M3 or the GT-R at all.

I mean why don’t you go and complain about a Cayman too because it doesn’t have 300kw.

I rather like this car, doesn’t have a cockhead factor at all, and it’s only going to be bought by people who are really into their cars and know what it is, not just for the badge or the bragging factor.

The ‘oh the GT-R is better at a track’ is a ridiculous argument, precisely how many km a year do you track a car?

Anyway, this thing is pretty friggin’ awesome around a track, watch the video Drivers Republic produced when they tested it, declared to be more fun and better handling than a Cayman
Mike

^ bla bla, compairson who carse.. its 150+ Gs. Thats the comparison i was making F#@@. Plenty other choices you can get in that neighborhood. And from what I see on the road, people with that kind of coin tend to agree.

POsted by Vince:
“haha 150k and that’s without ANY of the options and the options list is large, there goes 200k for a Lotus slower than an Exige, no thanks, you can keep it, it’s pretty ugly as well. C63 or GTR will get my coin. Where do they get off charging these inhumane prices? haha ”

Agree 100%!
Left Lane Lover

To all you people out there saying that you would buy some other car for 150 plus,can you please tell us all which ones of you are going to spend that much on a car in the near future,or are you just full of total crap ?.
No Patience For Idiots!

Left Lane Lover ,with a comment like that you sure your not a Right Hand Lover ?

Quick what a load of cr*p!

A GT-R and M3 have been compared for their abilities around a track and their price to this .

Quote ” c*ckhead factor at all”

Yet you think a Cayman is more a competitor,thats the biggest c*cks car and one that cant afford a real Porsche.
Left Lane Lover

Hey “no patients”
have you driven any of the cars you’re crapping on about,how about answering the question instead of repeating what someone has read to you about motor cars bbbbbbbbrrrrrm
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Wheelnut

Have You Left Lane D!ngo?
Left Lane Lover

Sorry Wheelnut,I really dont get that one,please explain!
Left Lane Lover

Got it,dont mix insults with serious questions please,its late you know,my Mum says I have to get to sleep soon,at least I will get to dream about driving all these cars.
Alex

No Patience For Idiots!, you must be finding it quite hard to have any patience for yourself right now as far as your thoughts on the Cayman go.
It may be a bit of a c*cks car but especially after being revised and facelifted, it’s now basically better than a 911 so drop the stupid thing about people only buying them because because they can’t afford a 911. They feel completely different! The 911 is excellent but the fact is that the new Cayman S is like a livelier 911 that handles better! It’s more nimble and light which also helps.
How is it not the most obvious competitor to this? They cost about the same, they are about the same size, they seat two and they’re both mid engined. Seems pretty natural to me.

Quick is actually pretty spot on here.
What image the car gives you really has nothing to do with what competes with what and if you believe otherwise then we really shouldn’t listen to your opinions.
Alex

I have just realised that the second paragraph of my previous comment is some what messy so just to clarify, “What image the car gives you really has nothing to do with what competes with what and if you believe otherwise then we really shouldn’t listen to your opinions” is aimed at No Patience For Idiots!, not Quick.
No Patience For Idiots!

Yeah well you would think that Alex, owning one yourself now wouldn’t you ?

So your saying the cheaper Cayman is a better choice and a better handler than the 911 ,wow bet Porsche are pissed at themselves for making its poorer cousin a superior drive to the 911.

I bet you think the Cayman would outrun the GT-R around a track too ,seems that Nissan should have aimed the GT-R at the cheap old Cayman then hey!

Nice opinion dude ,you spend a lot of time defending your poor mans Porsche to others ?
Alex

I don’t own a Cayman, did I ever say that I did? I said I would rather one over the Evora. If I’ve written anything that says otherwise it was a mistake or another one of the Alex’s that comments on this site.

You obviously don’t read reviews (because most agree that the Cayman S is now the pick of the Porsches) and it doesn’t seem like you’ve driven one either. In fact, give me one good reason why your opinion is more valid than mine. You have words, I have actual experience.

And I wrote nothing about tracks and no I do not think a Cayman would beat the GT-R around one.
No Patience For Idiots!

Ahhhhhhhhhhh the sound of back peddling.

Love to read a few of those reviews that state the Cayman is a better handling/car than the 911 you refer to.

Limited Edition Porsche Cayman S Sport”
Quote ” ALEX Says:
March 27th, 2009 at 6:59 am

I bought one of these on an 09 plate and i love it, my first Porsche ,love the handling and fast enough for the roads i travel,As always it has it knockers and people who say its a poor mans 911, if thats the case then i,m a VERY HAPPY POOR MAN ”

So your another Alex that loves the Cayman,how convenient.

I think you should go back and read what you wrote.

“Alex Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

I find it quite interesting that people keep bringing the GT-R and the M3 up. I mean no offense to the GT-R lovers but the fact is that the GT-R just isn’t all that good. I mean, it’s fantastic at high speeds but the fact is that one would probably spend 99% if not 100% of their time in a GT-R simply on the road and on the road at normal speeds, the GT-R is no more fun than a Nissan Primera. I know that sounds a bit harsh but it’s true. This car may not be the fastest thing in the world but it is meant to be great fun and it is getting very good reviews.
I think it’s closest competitor would be the Porsche Cayman S, but considering how perfect that car is in every way, how could you buy this? I had this on my list at one point but now I’m not sure if I wouldn’t just prefer a manual Cayman S. The Cayman is even better than a 911 in many areas, including handling, and even if this car is for purists it’s not as if Porsche’s aren’t. The manual Cayman S is even being picked over the GT-R in most group tests in magazines I read. It’s just that good.
This does looks absolutely fantastic though. ”

The GT-R just isnt that good ??? Yet you believe the Cayman wouldnt beat the GT-R around a track . So is the Cayman good or not ?

Quote ” the GT-R is no more fun than a Nissan Primera” You actually believe that ?

Quote ” You have words, I have actual experience. ”

So should we call you the Stig from the amount of experience you have at driving ,not Alex !

I have driven 911s and read a few reports on the Cayman, none have been that special even against the M3 .
Left Lane Lover

Hey Mr no patience,please leave Alex alone.He has read loads and loads of stuff about cars,and knows tons and tons of stuff about them.Well someone has read stuff to him,but by heck he can remember the stuff they read to him.
The movie Rainman comes to mind for some reason.