Comments on: New Toyota Prius First Look

By: ComradeVodka

ComradeVodka — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:34:04 +0000

Certainly a big improvement. Would rather the Kia Cerato LPG hybrid though.

By: Reality

Reality — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:40:50 +0000

Andrew M,

If the i30 is a little smaller than the Prius then the Fiesta is probably even smaller so the space capacity criteria would be blown.

I’m looking at it from the point of view that the cars are going to be built and sold anyway so dust to dust isn’t such an issue.

The Peugot wagon seems to be a pretty good contender.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:18:48 +0000

Reality,
Fair enough then, how about the econetic fiesta??
Its due here pretty soon.

Once again it doesnt feature hybrid tech, so its quite remarkable. Imagine if they bolted a slot car motor on it aswell……

Even if the i30 does put out more Co2, it could easily be argued that the manufacturing process of the Prius brings back any gains made in lower Co2

I’d rather go for the $$$ saving options such as the economical diesels, LPG or the upcoming economical eco boost style engines over choosing the Co2 savings that can be proven to be false/misleading over time

By: Reality

Reality — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:40:29 +0000

Just Australia Andrew M. I don’t see the point of comparing to something that isn’t available here in Oz. Also makes price comparisons hard.

I’m assuming you mean the i30 Diesel? If so, fuel consumption is close but emission is still an issue and I read somewhere that it doesn’t have a particulate filter.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 06:11:51 +0000

^^^
Oh and at half the price

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 06:11:31 +0000

Reality,
Are we talking australian market alone, or considering the many alternatives that for some reason havent hit our shores???

In the Aus market the non hybrid i30 is pretty similar

By: Sam, the original

Sam, the original — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:47:05 +0000

Reality, what about an Audi A3e. May seem smaller but I would be surprised if there was that much in it, especially inside.

By: Reality

Reality — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:56:50 +0000

Let me rephrase the question then. Wouldn’t want to traumatize the enthusiasts.:) Is there a four wheeed, personal transport vehicle that is similar in passenger/load carrying size as the Prius with comparable emission output that will be available for public use within the next 6 to twelve months? There is Honda’s Insight but, aside from price, the same criticism against the Prius can be levelled at it. ie. looks like a cheese wedge, uses batteries etc.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:34:07 +0000

Realcars,
Very good point in the wrap the E-Gas got (or didnt get).

Reality,
Dont ask me, I couldnt care about the co2 emissions, Im into real cars.

Oh and not “Realcars” (old mate above) but REAL CARS with a space between, as in the object

By: Reality

Reality — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:46:57 +0000

Taking the Prius as a whole, are there any other cars out there that are similar in size and emission output?

By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Bavarian Missile (.)(.) — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:02:09 +0000

Baji I look at it like those that drink bottled water,they think its better than tap but have no idea of the pollutants the plastic bottle makes during its time of manufacture or how long it will take to break down at the local tip after !

Never mind they think its healthy :)

By: Baji

Baji — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:57:16 +0000

Okay i’ve worked it out. NEVER comment using the word “F-R-U-G-A-L” otherwise your comments will be blocked and have to be approved by moderators.

By: Baji

Baji — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:56:02 +0000

this is weird.. why have my comments be blocked? hmm well this one was supposed to be the comment that went before my first comment:

I seriously find it extremely hard to see the point of the prius. Its not environmentally friendly (batteries), its not any more f r u-g a l than most modern small capacity diesels, and its not cheap to buy either! For the price of the prius, you could get better looking, better driving cars out there.

By: Baji

Baji — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:53:37 +0000

But with that said, since i love techno gadgets, I can’t help but love all the effort that has been put into the prius. I think the electric drive train that Toyota has developed is amazing. Although i dislike the marketing of the prius as green and evironmentally friendly, economical etc, i can appreciate and respect the design, research and engineering efforts that have gone into this car.

To me, it is more of a showcase of Toyota’s pioneering efforts into hybrid vehicle technology. Wehther or not hybrid technology is the way of the future, we’ll just have to wait and see.

By: Phill

Phill — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:12:18 +0000

VW Freak says – Toyota have done a brilliant job with the new 1.8 Atkinson engine. 3.9l/100km is a pretty impressive effort!Does that mean that most of the fuel saving is form a more efficent petrol engine,any car maker can make a more efficent petrol engine.what if thay put this 1.8 in a yaris it would be more powerful and economical.Prius = Gimmick.I spealled it wright thanks VW.

By: VW Freak

VW Freak — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:27:25 +0000

Phill, you really do need to learn how to spell. It’s “gimmick”! Why would the petrol engine need to get smaller? Toyota have done a brilliant job with the new 1.8 Atkinson engine. 3.9l/100km is a pretty impressive effort! The solar panel is primarily for powering interior cooling when the vehicle is parked, and also charging the battery to a small degree.

By: Phill

Phill — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:59:09 +0000

Prius 2 Gimmik.The petrol engine should have gotten smaller.The petrol engine getts 20% increase in power and 300cc displacement increase while the electric engine only gets 6% more power then they give gimmiky opitons inside the car to help blend over that fact.so does the exrta economy come form aerodynamic improvement and the solar panel???How much power does the solar panel provide for drive???Dont tell me its just for the AC if it is then it proves my point,Gimmik.

By: Sam, the original

Sam, the original — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:36:53 +0000

They sell second hand Prii (Priuses?)at the Public Trustee of Queensland in Brisbane. They have current models for sale for 18k to 23k with very low k’s. Have a look at the website for info. They would be a good buy at this price.

Cairns is home to me. I have ridden in a Prius Cab. It looked ok from the outside but I couldn’t help but notice how tired it felt inside. So loose and creaky, worn, and it would crash over bumps like the suspension was rooted. I then looked at the odometer and saw 680,000 on it! That explained that. That was on the way to the Airport. On the way home I had a much newer example with ‘only’ 230k on it. It felt much tighter and in better nick. No rear headroom really annoyed me….I hope they fixed that.

By: Motorhead

Motorhead — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:12:53 +0000

For anyone interested in drag coefficients there is a brief explanation & list of many models ratings on this website.
http://www.calibrawiki.com/ind.....oefficient

By: Bekleidung

Bekleidung — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:02:37 +0000

I remember earlier i have heard rumors about it,
Its interior design is really good,something we can call luxurious,
Its really good to see this one as Toyota is one of my least fav and this car is making me fan of it