Comments on: GM Holden – FAQs http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/ Resource for Car Reviews, News, Advice, Road Tests, Green Cars, Hybrids Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DesignEngr http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135442 DesignEngr Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:01:14 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135442 Wheelnut, - How many other factories will be building the Cruze hatch? I'm not aware of any. - Factory capacity is the very reason that Holden will build Cruze here. They need it for the factory capacity/efficiency effect. Same over at Ford, it's all about keeping the plants up to a certain volume. - Insignia is NOT part of Holden's projected model line-up so it has to build a car that it intends to sell - it's Commodore/Cruze or nothing. Wheelnut,
- How many other factories will be building the Cruze hatch?
I’m not aware of any.
- Factory capacity is the very reason that Holden will build Cruze here. They need it for the factory capacity/efficiency effect. Same over at Ford, it’s all about keeping the plants up to a certain volume.
- Insignia is NOT part of Holden’s projected model line-up so it has to build a car that it intends to sell – it’s Commodore/Cruze or nothing.

]]> By: Wheelnut http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135352 Wheelnut Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:19:19 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135352 If the numbers for the Cruze don't work out....don't rule out the possibility of Holden building the Insignia.. as under the new ownership agreement in relation Opel GM still have a 35% share which means they can still share technology etc which means it could still happen. As I have said before; The Cruze [which is based on the Astras Delta II platform] is being built in so many other Factories around the world so supply is more than abundant whereas the Insignia [based on the Epsillion platform] is only being built in Russelsheim Germany. Therefore; given that the Insignia is going to be a very popular model if Holden ended up building the Insignia it would help ease the workload in Germany as well as help Opel meet demand for by exporting it to Europe and the USA I can't see the point in having yet another factory [Holden] building exactly the same car as 4-5 other factories are already; as you then end up with factories opperating at 50-60% instead of 80-90%.. and is one of the reasons GM is in so much trouble 1-2 should be enough. If the numbers for the Cruze don’t work out….don’t rule out the possibility of Holden building the Insignia..
as under the new ownership agreement in relation Opel GM still have a 35% share which means they can still share technology etc which means it could still happen.

As I have said before; The Cruze [which is based on the Astras Delta II platform] is being built in so many other Factories around the world so supply is more than abundant whereas the Insignia [based on the Epsillion platform] is only being built in Russelsheim Germany.

Therefore; given that the Insignia is going to be a very popular model if Holden ended up building the Insignia it would help ease the workload in Germany as well as help Opel meet demand for by exporting it to Europe and the USA

I can’t see the point in having yet another factory [Holden] building exactly the same car as 4-5 other factories are already; as you then end up with factories opperating at 50-60% instead of 80-90%.. and is one of the reasons GM is in so much trouble 1-2 should be enough.

]]> By: Realcars http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135349 Realcars Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:16:53 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135349 All is good and well as far as this pretend bankruptcy is concerned but what about the creditors that will never see a cent of their money repaid or maybe 10 cents in the dollar at best? Can't help but think that this pretend type of bankruptcy is going to bite the rest of us on the Rs with other investments soon. Otherwise wish GMH all the best. All is good and well as far as this pretend bankruptcy is concerned but what about the creditors that will never see a cent of their money repaid or maybe 10 cents in the dollar at best?

Can’t help but think that this pretend type of bankruptcy is going to bite the rest of us on the Rs with other investments soon.

Otherwise wish GMH all the best.

]]> By: DesignEngr http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135342 DesignEngr Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:54:04 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135342 And BTW if Cruze doesn't make the numbers then GM manufacturing in Australia goes with it. The business case is based upon success of both large and small cars. And BTW if Cruze doesn’t make the numbers then GM manufacturing in Australia goes with it. The business case is based upon success of both large and small cars.

]]> By: DesignEngr http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135341 DesignEngr Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:51:20 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135341 TS, my information is that it IS Delta II, but don't forget that there are variations. Maybe your source is confused by the IRS. TS, my information is that it IS Delta II, but don’t forget that there are variations. Maybe your source is confused by the IRS.

]]> By: The Salesman http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135338 The Salesman Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:38:52 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135338 Can conferm if GM Holden dont get the numbers from Cruise we wont see it built in Oz. Will check source on platform. Can conferm if GM Holden dont get the numbers from Cruise we wont see it built in Oz. Will check source on platform.

]]> By: Bret http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135331 Bret Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:20:00 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135331 TS, Check your sources. They're wrong. Or maybe it's just more of the spin by some to distance GMH from the Daewoo design? TS, Check your sources. They’re wrong. Or maybe it’s just more of the spin by some to distance GMH from the Daewoo design?

]]> By: lazybones http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135329 lazybones Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:15:08 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135329 "An inside source tells me the Elizabeth built car is NOT on the delta 2 platform?" Yeah its built on Platform 2, Flinders street station :) Surely the Delta 2 Platform would make the most sense, that would cover them for the cruze/volt & shock horror maybe the new astra. Could that be why its off the import list ooohhhhh.... “An inside source tells me the Elizabeth built car is NOT on the delta 2 platform?”

Yeah its built on Platform 2, Flinders street station :)

Surely the Delta 2 Platform would make the most sense, that would cover them for the cruze/volt & shock horror maybe the new astra. Could that be why its off the import list ooohhhhh….

]]> By: The Salesman http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135327 The Salesman Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:08:45 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135327 DavidT. An inside source tells me the Elizabeth built car is NOT on the delta 2 platform? IF, it is built in Australia at all. DavidT.
An inside source tells me the Elizabeth built car is NOT on the delta 2 platform? IF, it is built in Australia at all.

]]> By: lazybones http://www.caradvice.com.au/31918/gm-holden-faqs/#comment-135325 lazybones Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:03:57 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/?p=31918#comment-135325 "Im sure that still wont keep the HHH {Holden Haters Happy}" Come on Bav, if Holden totally disappeared where would I get most of my material? I'm doing a run of 1000 HHH T-shirts if your interested :) This is a good result for the employees of Holden not to mention the local Vic enconomy. Best of all its kind of over and we can now get back to our normal routine of bashing local/Euro & US Car manufactures. "Sorry Wheelnut, but I’ve saying it for a while now…. CRUZE - Daewoo designed, Australian built" Personally I agree Bret, but it does also raise the question of what will HSV do with the cruze if anything considering the Astra is now a gonna, and on the back of what Astro boy said. “Im sure that still wont keep the HHH {Holden Haters Happy}”

Come on Bav, if Holden totally disappeared where would I get most of my material? I’m doing a run of 1000 HHH T-shirts if your interested :)

This is a good result for the employees of Holden not to mention the local Vic enconomy. Best of all its kind of over and we can now get back to our normal routine of bashing local/Euro & US Car manufactures.

“Sorry Wheelnut, but I’ve saying it for a while now….
CRUZE – Daewoo designed, Australian built”

Personally I agree Bret, but it does also raise the question of what will HSV do with the cruze if anything considering the Astra is now a gonna, and on the back of what Astro boy said.

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