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	<title>Comments on: 2009 Renault Laguna Estate &#8211; First Steer</title>
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		<title>By: Steve-Poyza</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31651/2009-renault-laguna-estate-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-151696</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve-Poyza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is that full review we were promised?</description>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn!! Dunno what you mean. refer to my comment above.&quot;Can’t say I’m a fan of Pugs but having recently driven a 308 1.56HDi I was well impressed and would say it was better (read different) than a Focus or Astra.&quot;
Seems your completely wrong in your observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn!! Dunno what you mean. refer to my comment above.&#8221;Can’t say I’m a fan of Pugs but having recently driven a 308 1.56HDi I was well impressed and would say it was better (read different) than a Focus or Astra.&#8221;<br />
Seems your completely wrong in your observation.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cupid Stunt, I think you belong on a Holden/Ford forum... you don&#039;t seem to have anything good to say about anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cupid Stunt, I think you belong on a Holden/Ford forum&#8230; you don&#8217;t seem to have anything good to say about anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve-Poyza</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31651/2009-renault-laguna-estate-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-134963</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve-Poyza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that French cars have a definite flair that is so uniquely French. I love Renault&#039;s recent design language, maybe not as bold as a few years back but very handsome vehicles have been produced. Its hard to know if the quality work has paid off, I haven&#039;t heard of negative reviews from owners posts and also there haven&#039;t been any long termers with any new Laguna yet. I hope to see one soon. However, for now there is a good article on the lastest edition of Wheels magazine about that Mazda designer who has moved to Renault. He said that when Renault approached him, he was honoured and that he really liked their bold work from the past. It will be interesting to see how he influences Renault in terms of outgoing designs as well as quality.

Anyway, even though I know it won&#039;t happen, I would love to see the V6 dCi and V6 petrol engines brought to the Aus Laguna range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that French cars have a definite flair that is so uniquely French. I love Renault&#8217;s recent design language, maybe not as bold as a few years back but very handsome vehicles have been produced. Its hard to know if the quality work has paid off, I haven&#8217;t heard of negative reviews from owners posts and also there haven&#8217;t been any long termers with any new Laguna yet. I hope to see one soon. However, for now there is a good article on the lastest edition of Wheels magazine about that Mazda designer who has moved to Renault. He said that when Renault approached him, he was honoured and that he really liked their bold work from the past. It will be interesting to see how he influences Renault in terms of outgoing designs as well as quality.</p>
<p>Anyway, even though I know it won&#8217;t happen, I would love to see the V6 dCi and V6 petrol engines brought to the Aus Laguna range.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam, the original</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam, the original</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 02:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugly ugly ugly.</description>
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		<title>By: Murano</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31651/2009-renault-laguna-estate-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-134820</link>
		<dc:creator>Murano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 00:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve
Granted, Renault is constantly improving their products. I hope this good looking Laguna will benefit from their efforts. Personally, I do believe the Frenchies have a certain flair in designing cars-something the Koreans and even the Japanese know little about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve<br />
Granted, Renault is constantly improving their products. I hope this good looking Laguna will benefit from their efforts. Personally, I do believe the Frenchies have a certain flair in designing cars-something the Koreans and even the Japanese know little about.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31651/2009-renault-laguna-estate-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-134809</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 15:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALEX that the best you can do? SFB</description>
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		<title>By: Steve-Poyza</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31651/2009-renault-laguna-estate-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-134759</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve-Poyza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 06:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murano, I thought I&#039;d just let you know that Renault have put a lo of effort into making their new cars more reliable and a better quality of a product. All of their 2007-present cars have had massive amounts of work on reliability. Those issues you had in your Renault back in the day most likely aren&#039;t present in any of their new cars. The Laguna II also had a lot of technical faults, thats why Renault worked extra hard on this car to improve their name. Also, the warranty of this car has been upgraded to unlimited kilometers, like the Koleos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murano, I thought I&#8217;d just let you know that Renault have put a lo of effort into making their new cars more reliable and a better quality of a product. All of their 2007-present cars have had massive amounts of work on reliability. Those issues you had in your Renault back in the day most likely aren&#8217;t present in any of their new cars. The Laguna II also had a lot of technical faults, thats why Renault worked extra hard on this car to improve their name. Also, the warranty of this car has been upgraded to unlimited kilometers, like the Koleos.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett, by &quot;I own a Reno&quot; do you mean that you own a Western Nevadan town or did you just frequently misspell the name of the car you claim to own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett, by &#8220;I own a Reno&#8221; do you mean that you own a Western Nevadan town or did you just frequently misspell the name of the car you claim to own?</p>
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		<title>By: Murano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once had a lemon of a Renault and yet I kept it for 8years. A Renault 19RT. After 3 year, CPU was changed. 5th year gearswitch was replaced. 7th year, power steering mechanism was changed. Throughout these years, engine kept dying on me when I make a 90degrees turn at low speed.
I loved the handling and ride but I hated the reliability. The body and interior were made with good materials but the parts kept failing. A real pity. 
Till today, I don&#039;t trust a Renault although I do fall in love with some of their good looking models. This is one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once had a lemon of a Renault and yet I kept it for 8years. A Renault 19RT. After 3 year, CPU was changed. 5th year gearswitch was replaced. 7th year, power steering mechanism was changed. Throughout these years, engine kept dying on me when I make a 90degrees turn at low speed.<br />
I loved the handling and ride but I hated the reliability. The body and interior were made with good materials but the parts kept failing. A real pity.<br />
Till today, I don&#8217;t trust a Renault although I do fall in love with some of their good looking models. This is one.</p>
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		<title>By: Realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Liberty Wagon is fuglier IMO.</description>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31651/2009-renault-laguna-estate-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-134689</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 09:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok First up I own a Reno Megane Turbo cup spec. I drove BMW, Golf GTI,  $15,000 more ) WRX etc besides the fact I kept hitting my knees on the dash and consoles in the other three, the Reno to chuck around a corner not even a WRX can match it( STI yes) . Besides that I&#039;m filling up at over 4 weeks. Not only that its costing me around $200 to service at a reno dealer. My parents are subie lovers. One new liberty the other a Impreza GT. Service bills... my god well over $800. THe Liberty has taken them nearly 6 months to get it to run on 5 and in the end it went to my old merc mechanic to fix it. Its had the leather seats replaced 3 times! The dash lights switch off, the trip computer passes out .. oh $900 for the part to fix that. They both eat tyres...  What Im getting at is take a look at these French things, great drivers cars... wait till the new Magane RS gets here trust me it will be hero enough and looks amazing. The Laguna is so quiet you think its a Benz, something Passat does not match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok First up I own a Reno Megane Turbo cup spec. I drove BMW, Golf GTI,  $15,000 more ) WRX etc besides the fact I kept hitting my knees on the dash and consoles in the other three, the Reno to chuck around a corner not even a WRX can match it( STI yes) . Besides that I&#8217;m filling up at over 4 weeks. Not only that its costing me around $200 to service at a reno dealer. My parents are subie lovers. One new liberty the other a Impreza GT. Service bills&#8230; my god well over $800. THe Liberty has taken them nearly 6 months to get it to run on 5 and in the end it went to my old merc mechanic to fix it. Its had the leather seats replaced 3 times! The dash lights switch off, the trip computer passes out .. oh $900 for the part to fix that. They both eat tyres&#8230;  What Im getting at is take a look at these French things, great drivers cars&#8230; wait till the new Magane RS gets here trust me it will be hero enough and looks amazing. The Laguna is so quiet you think its a Benz, something Passat does not match.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31651/2009-renault-laguna-estate-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-134686</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 09:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it with the spate of Weird Ugly lookin cars [particularly wagons] that are coming out of Europe at the moment or will be in the near future.. Have they been hit by the Design-Flu?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it with the spate of Weird Ugly lookin cars [particularly wagons] that are coming out of Europe at the moment or will be in the near future.. Have they been hit by the Design-Flu?</p>
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		<title>By: OSU811</title>
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		<dc:creator>OSU811</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem for this car, is the all new liberty wagon will be out soon. And has a better known name in oz, as well as a reputation for reliability,resale and safety. the top level liberties will be fully loaded in features for simalar money as well.It is a safer bet for people to stick with something they know, especially in the current financial climate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem for this car, is the all new liberty wagon will be out soon. And has a better known name in oz, as well as a reputation for reliability,resale and safety. the top level liberties will be fully loaded in features for simalar money as well.It is a safer bet for people to stick with something they know, especially in the current financial climate.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo Utopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo Utopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 10:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fiat seems to be going ok in auz so far, why, because their is a fun factor in their models.  Renault needs cars which can distinguish themselves from other cars in this desirable way, not in a modern albeit unemotional abstract type of way.  They need the Clio to be more unique like the 500, some Citroen concepts look like they are starting to bring back the X factor into their designs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiat seems to be going ok in auz so far, why, because their is a fun factor in their models.  Renault needs cars which can distinguish themselves from other cars in this desirable way, not in a modern albeit unemotional abstract type of way.  They need the Clio to be more unique like the 500, some Citroen concepts look like they are starting to bring back the X factor into their designs.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Mainwaring</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Mainwaring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 07:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T39, your mate who bought a Laguna with a 10K discount will find that he loses all that plus another 10K when he tries to trade it in. Smart guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T39, your mate who bought a Laguna with a 10K discount will find that he loses all that plus another 10K when he tries to trade it in. Smart guy.</p>
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		<title>By: phillip</title>
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		<dc:creator>phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 07:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could only imagine someone buying the Laguna if they wanted to be different. I can respect that: to me, Passats are so ubiquitous now they are starting to look like Camrys. However, I&#039;m not convinced by the look nor the build quality of the Laguna. On the hatch at certain angles it seems that the front and rear door handles don&#039;t follow the same line, as if a Ssangyong designer broke into Renault&#039;s design lab and secretly sabotaged the original sketches. The wagon looks too small to be functional. On the build quality front, the last model was so poor it would be wise to be skeptical.

PS: Matt, you obviously forgot about the first model Laguna which was available in Australia around 1995/96.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could only imagine someone buying the Laguna if they wanted to be different. I can respect that: to me, Passats are so ubiquitous now they are starting to look like Camrys. However, I&#8217;m not convinced by the look nor the build quality of the Laguna. On the hatch at certain angles it seems that the front and rear door handles don&#8217;t follow the same line, as if a Ssangyong designer broke into Renault&#8217;s design lab and secretly sabotaged the original sketches. The wagon looks too small to be functional. On the build quality front, the last model was so poor it would be wise to be skeptical.</p>
<p>PS: Matt, you obviously forgot about the first model Laguna which was available in Australia around 1995/96.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake02</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 06:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d buy a Laguna petrol over the Mazda6, but not the diesel. The interior of the laguna really appears to have had alot of money spent on it, even more than the 6. Against other similarly priced rivals (passat, superb, accord euro, 407 maybe etc) I wouldn&#039;t have a laguna because it has so many more flaws!

Yep I agree a Renault halo car needs to be launched. Laguna Coupe maybe but not as the halo car, the Espace possibly (I&#039;ve seen two in Australia), the new Megane no but the RS possibly, the Modus no but it should be launched here regardless, maybe a Laguna V6 (or the GT model with 4WS they get overseas including NZ), maybe a proper Clio range (the majority of Renaults I see are old-model Clios and Megane RS&#039;s) or the new Scenic with more than just the boring 2.0 petrol or 1.9 diesel (in Europe a low-blow 130kW turbo 2.0 petrol is available and apparently pulls very well)!

Renault make great cars, but they aren&#039;t capitalising on this by leaving them in Europe. Renault Aus if you&#039;re Reading this you will sell more cars if you bring a wider range of cars to Australia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d buy a Laguna petrol over the Mazda6, but not the diesel. The interior of the laguna really appears to have had alot of money spent on it, even more than the 6. Against other similarly priced rivals (passat, superb, accord euro, 407 maybe etc) I wouldn&#8217;t have a laguna because it has so many more flaws!</p>
<p>Yep I agree a Renault halo car needs to be launched. Laguna Coupe maybe but not as the halo car, the Espace possibly (I&#8217;ve seen two in Australia), the new Megane no but the RS possibly, the Modus no but it should be launched here regardless, maybe a Laguna V6 (or the GT model with 4WS they get overseas including NZ), maybe a proper Clio range (the majority of Renaults I see are old-model Clios and Megane RS&#8217;s) or the new Scenic with more than just the boring 2.0 petrol or 1.9 diesel (in Europe a low-blow 130kW turbo 2.0 petrol is available and apparently pulls very well)!</p>
<p>Renault make great cars, but they aren&#8217;t capitalising on this by leaving them in Europe. Renault Aus if you&#8217;re Reading this you will sell more cars if you bring a wider range of cars to Australia!</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I do appreciate the brand I just don&#039;t see why you wouldn&#039;t take an Accord or Mazda6 instead. More kit, same size, cheaper... just not a Euro brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I do appreciate the brand I just don&#8217;t see why you wouldn&#8217;t take an Accord or Mazda6 instead. More kit, same size, cheaper&#8230; just not a Euro brand.</p>
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		<title>By: t39</title>
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		<dc:creator>t39</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone I know recently bought a new Laguna at 10K less than the sticker price.  He said he could not get this level of discount from other makes dealers.  i guess this is the only good reason to choose the Laguna.</description>
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