This is not correct, since the car coming towards you is not as stron as a wall. If case of an heavy truck you might be right.

So, for the more robust car, the impact spead will be comparable to a lesser speed against a wall, and for the “softer” car the impact speed compared to a wall will be higher.

Ever noticed how little the big trucks get damaged in accidents with cars?

So if you want to crash into something, choose a small car to run into.

These results are a complete crock – I’ll tell you why…. I’m interested in getting a new car for my family to ride around in and I’m concerned about safety. So when I go looking for a new car I wouldn’t even consider a car that didn’t come with ABS, ESP and curtain airbags. So what cars do I look for – large Aussie cars (Commodore, Falcon, Aurion) that are spec’d with these things, yet when I try to find results on cars that are spec’d with the safety pack, they are nowhere to be found. Instead you can only find apples and oranges comparisons.

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You can read the assessment notes here:
http://ancap.com.au/uploaded-m....._Mar07.pdf

The minimum point score for a 5 star result is 32.5, so even if both Holden and Toyota has scored the maximum 2 points for the pole test, neither would have passed the 32.5 point mark.

Don’t buy into the spin, I really doubt Holden and Toyota were “trying to make a point”. It is far more likely that they knew what their result were well before the ANCAP tests and therefore knew that the result of the pole test would have made no impact upon their final star rating.

That’s quite interesting. I’m sure that if Holden or Toyota knew that their car was capable of scoring a 5 star result then they would have coughed up a little extra cash to conduct the test.

I find it hard to believe that a car company that spent over a billion dollars on development refused to pay for one crash test that could have handed them a significant market advantage just out of principle.

I’d suggest that it’s more likely that both Holden and Toyota knew from there own testing that even if they had scored full marks for the optional pole test then they still would not have achieved a 5 star result.

Check the scores:
Toyota Aurion 30.03 out of 37
Holden VE Commodore 27.45 out of 37

Even if both cars had scored the maximum 2 points for the optional pole test it’s unlikely either of them would have cracked 5 stars. The SAAB 9-5 (LHD) (2004) was the lowest scoring 5 star car I found on a quick search of the howsafeisyourcar site and it scored 32.56 of 37. Unless anyone knows otherwise it looks like you’d need 32.5 of 37 as the minimum to crack 5 stars.

Geez, that was a novel, sorry, but I’d hate for anyone to “draw inaccurate conclusions”.

Lol true… its good they exist for a laugh, but yeah I dont think he would take anything in, you tell for example Holden bogans that the Commodore is not the most powerful car in its segment and they still deny it!

An example for the intellectually challenged, a 30 year old muscle car has a head on collision with a Toyota Yaris. The occupants of the muscle car die due to the lack of even basic safety like a crumple zone, the occupants of the Toyota Yaris survive with an effective crumple zone and various airbags including a knee airbag protecting them.

First you say big is not better, then you say it is.

Methinks it’s you who have partaken of the idiot pills, not me.

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Sometimes it’s better to be in a “poor” car and alive rather than be in an “ANCAP 5″ car and be dead.

Lol then your an idiot… larger doesnt mean safer (unless its a truck).

Something which I find scary when you watch these head on impacts is that they are only travelling at 60km/h into a stationary wall and you can see the extensive damage, in a real life situation if you were to have a head on in a 60 zone the combined impact speed is actually 120km/h (maybe less if someone brakes at the last sec)! In light of this, I dont think Id ‘prefer’ to have a head on crash in any car…

Microwaves aye? I’d rather be in a microwave than to be in an all GRUNT car , but please for the sake of mankinds progress without tools like yourself , do crash in one of those grunty vehicles will you?

Dont crash the car then ya dickhead? At least with a bit of grunt you would more likley avoid an accident!

Sometimes it’s better to be in a “poor” car and alive rather than be in an “ANCAP 5″ car and be dead.

It definitely needs to be made clearer by ANCAP, I actually think its a big shame that it is optional!

Many people don’t pickup on the fact that the testing methodology is impacting on the results of ANCAP and this is exactly the point Holden and Toyota are trying to get across.

You are also correct about the pole test, the optional costs do not apply so much in Europe as they do here in Australia.

thanks for the feedback