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	<title>Comments on: Proton to sell cheapest car</title>
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		<title>By: franz chong</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31016/proton-to-sell-cheapest-car/#comment-219349</link>
		<dc:creator>franz chong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do what I did and buy a Nissan Micra while they are on runout $14990 drive away.

I did consider Proton and Suzuki before but the fact the latter is too tiny and gutless and I don&#039;t trust made in Malaysia...They do great food there though but not great cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do what I did and buy a Nissan Micra while they are on runout $14990 drive away.</p>
<p>I did consider Proton and Suzuki before but the fact the latter is too tiny and gutless and I don&#8217;t trust made in Malaysia&#8230;They do great food there though but not great cars.</p>
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		<title>By: toxic_horse</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31016/proton-to-sell-cheapest-car/#comment-186451</link>
		<dc:creator>toxic_horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The alto may be cheaper but it is gutless as and tiny. 
I would take the proton if i was that desperate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The alto may be cheaper but it is gutless as and tiny.<br />
I would take the proton if i was that desperate.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31016/proton-to-sell-cheapest-car/#comment-186448</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We want cheap actually &amp; Suzuki Alto is cheaper than Proton but not in Townsville where the salesmen don&#039;t seem to care about making sales &amp; earning commissions. I really can&#039;t see why even the cheapest cars are so overpriced in Australia compared to elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We want cheap actually &amp; Suzuki Alto is cheaper than Proton but not in Townsville where the salesmen don&#8217;t seem to care about making sales &amp; earning commissions. I really can&#8217;t see why even the cheapest cars are so overpriced in Australia compared to elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalOne</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31016/proton-to-sell-cheapest-car/#comment-140920</link>
		<dc:creator>FrugalOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have&#039;nt we heard all this before?

We DON&#039;T want cheap, we want VALUE

The ONLY way they can get Proton off the ground [imho] is to offer a guaranted buy back price.

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have&#8217;nt we heard all this before?</p>
<p>We DON&#8217;T want cheap, we want VALUE</p>
<p>The ONLY way they can get Proton off the ground [imho] is to offer a guaranted buy back price.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: DesignEngr</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31016/proton-to-sell-cheapest-car/#comment-133598</link>
		<dc:creator>DesignEngr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elsewhere this car is known as the &quot;SAGA&quot;. Can&#039;t really see that name taking off.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elsewhere this car is known as the &#8220;SAGA&#8221;. Can&#8217;t really see that name taking off&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: sud_gt</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31016/proton-to-sell-cheapest-car/#comment-133483</link>
		<dc:creator>sud_gt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this cheap car is based on savvy&#039;s chassis..proton didn&#039;t have to spent so much during the R&amp;D process..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this cheap car is based on savvy&#8217;s chassis..proton didn&#8217;t have to spent so much during the R&amp;D process..</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/31016/proton-to-sell-cheapest-car/#comment-132966</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 03:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frontman,
Now you are also talking used vehicles.

Im Talking up the scenario that you&#039;ve got 15K to spend, does that mean you have to buy a budget car???
Does that mean you have to buy new???

Are you suggesting that i wont be able to find a better car dollar for dollar than a new budget car??

Are you saying that a 5 year old mainstream car will be out classed by a new budget car??

Mazdas and hondas are probably a bad example if you are looking for outright dollar value as they have bloody good resale.
If you want to dull it up and become an astute buyer not caring for anything else other than A-B sort of stuff, then vehicles such the Focus, Corolla, Lancer and Tiida represent my side of the argument better as they have resale that isnt quite as good as the Mazda.

Lets take the first one off the block the Focus.
yes its starting to look a little bland, but the koreans arent oil paintings either. Focus like others I mentioned sell to fleets and hence resale is ordinary.
But in saying that, its still a great car when judged on its actual qualities, and dollar for dollar on the 2nd hand market it presents a great option.

Now when you talk dollar for dollar with the cheaper brands in mind, budget cars look even less appealing new or 2nd hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frontman,<br />
Now you are also talking used vehicles.</p>
<p>Im Talking up the scenario that you&#8217;ve got 15K to spend, does that mean you have to buy a budget car???<br />
Does that mean you have to buy new???</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that i wont be able to find a better car dollar for dollar than a new budget car??</p>
<p>Are you saying that a 5 year old mainstream car will be out classed by a new budget car??</p>
<p>Mazdas and hondas are probably a bad example if you are looking for outright dollar value as they have bloody good resale.<br />
If you want to dull it up and become an astute buyer not caring for anything else other than A-B sort of stuff, then vehicles such the Focus, Corolla, Lancer and Tiida represent my side of the argument better as they have resale that isnt quite as good as the Mazda.</p>
<p>Lets take the first one off the block the Focus.<br />
yes its starting to look a little bland, but the koreans arent oil paintings either. Focus like others I mentioned sell to fleets and hence resale is ordinary.<br />
But in saying that, its still a great car when judged on its actual qualities, and dollar for dollar on the 2nd hand market it presents a great option.</p>
<p>Now when you talk dollar for dollar with the cheaper brands in mind, budget cars look even less appealing new or 2nd hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 02:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TS, the rate of depreciation is at its highest in the cars first year of ownership which is why buying a near new car is a better use of money than buying a budget new car. A budget brand like a Proton has to depreciate faster as well, for the simple fact people are not willing to pay 
the same price for a second hand Proton Savvy as they are a Hyundai Getz or Toyota Yaris. Toyota for the past few years have sold around 2300 Yaris&#039;s a month, which means a large number of those Yaris&#039;s are entering the second hand market and competing with the second hand Savvy&#039;s. The large number of Yaris&#039;s forces their own resale values down, which forces less desirable cars (as shown by market demands) down further. So a new Savvy will cost you much more once you price in depreciation. 

Yes, you are paying extra for choice. Looking at the options list of a Savvy though, is that really worth the several thousand dollars buying new costs over say, a second hand Yaris, or even Getz, which are better cars in every quantifiable way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TS, the rate of depreciation is at its highest in the cars first year of ownership which is why buying a near new car is a better use of money than buying a budget new car. A budget brand like a Proton has to depreciate faster as well, for the simple fact people are not willing to pay<br />
the same price for a second hand Proton Savvy as they are a Hyundai Getz or Toyota Yaris. Toyota for the past few years have sold around 2300 Yaris&#8217;s a month, which means a large number of those Yaris&#8217;s are entering the second hand market and competing with the second hand Savvy&#8217;s. The large number of Yaris&#8217;s forces their own resale values down, which forces less desirable cars (as shown by market demands) down further. So a new Savvy will cost you much more once you price in depreciation. </p>
<p>Yes, you are paying extra for choice. Looking at the options list of a Savvy though, is that really worth the several thousand dollars buying new costs over say, a second hand Yaris, or even Getz, which are better cars in every quantifiable way?</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 02:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Andrew some of what you say is correct, but the Astute buyer looking for cheap transport, not something bought with the heart, then Vehicles like Sonata&#039;s (available from 13k ex renter) or Kia Optima mark very good arguments. These are both massive amounts of cars for the money and are still well under new car warranty. For the dollars, is a much older Honda or Mazda a better car? NO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Andrew some of what you say is correct, but the Astute buyer looking for cheap transport, not something bought with the heart, then Vehicles like Sonata&#8217;s (available from 13k ex renter) or Kia Optima mark very good arguments. These are both massive amounts of cars for the money and are still well under new car warranty. For the dollars, is a much older Honda or Mazda a better car? NO.</p>
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		<title>By: swampdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>swampdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 01:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are looking at some interesting times ahead with the cheapest new car competition kicking off, particularly with cut price Chinese cars coming in the next few years. 

&quot;Currently the cheapest RRP for a car in Australia is tied between the Proton Savvy and the Hyundai Getz, both on $13,990.&quot; 
 It is not hard to work out why the Getz outsells the Savvy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are looking at some interesting times ahead with the cheapest new car competition kicking off, particularly with cut price Chinese cars coming in the next few years. </p>
<p>&#8220;Currently the cheapest RRP for a car in Australia is tied between the Proton Savvy and the Hyundai Getz, both on $13,990.&#8221;<br />
 It is not hard to work out why the Getz outsells the Savvy.</p>
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