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		<title>By: eh179driver</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30962/ferrari-threatens-to-quit-f1-in-2010/#comment-132955</link>
		<dc:creator>eh179driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcoz, no idea about what? Tell me more you have me interested, well for the first time anyway cause most of what you write is a total load of crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcoz, no idea about what? Tell me more you have me interested, well for the first time anyway cause most of what you write is a total load of crap.</p>
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		<title>By: eh179driver</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30962/ferrari-threatens-to-quit-f1-in-2010/#comment-132940</link>
		<dc:creator>eh179driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 22:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmm No idea huh. Well lets think here. I have attended EVERY F1 GP here in Australia as a track marshall (as well as most V8/ATCC for the past 29 years) 3 British GP&#039;s, 3 German GP&#039;s, 1 French, 1 USGP at Indy, 1 Canadia GP, 1 Turkish GP and 1 Singapore GP. I am off to the British and French GP this year (got my tickets last week) and will go to British and Monte Carlo GP next year. I worked for 2 Formula 5000 teams and 1 Formula Holden team here in Oz and a Formula 3000 team in England some years back. I think I am qualified to comment. Besides which I am entitled to an opinion. Now I not sure about how many F1 races you have been to or you just an armchair &quot;expert&quot;? Anyway I don&#039;t really care. I have an opinion and I will express it as I please. Note though that I have not degenerated to your purile name calling, so whos the wanker now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmm No idea huh. Well lets think here. I have attended EVERY F1 GP here in Australia as a track marshall (as well as most V8/ATCC for the past 29 years) 3 British GP&#8217;s, 3 German GP&#8217;s, 1 French, 1 USGP at Indy, 1 Canadia GP, 1 Turkish GP and 1 Singapore GP. I am off to the British and French GP this year (got my tickets last week) and will go to British and Monte Carlo GP next year. I worked for 2 Formula 5000 teams and 1 Formula Holden team here in Oz and a Formula 3000 team in England some years back. I think I am qualified to comment. Besides which I am entitled to an opinion. Now I not sure about how many F1 races you have been to or you just an armchair &#8220;expert&#8221;? Anyway I don&#8217;t really care. I have an opinion and I will express it as I please. Note though that I have not degenerated to your purile name calling, so whos the wanker now?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcoz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30962/ferrari-threatens-to-quit-f1-in-2010/#comment-132861</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok sorry keypad touched extra letter...&quot;IDEA&quot; i meant to type... not idead..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok sorry keypad touched extra letter&#8230;&#8221;IDEA&#8221; i meant to type&#8230; not idead..</p>
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		<title>By: Marcoz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30962/ferrari-threatens-to-quit-f1-in-2010/#comment-132860</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... truly Eh179 you are a wank...you have no idead what your talking about, and no it&#039;s not an attack on you for your different opinion..its cause your just full off doo doo and your extremely wrong extremley wrong....no offence....haha..
stick to watching desperate houswives mate and let the true fans of f1 discuss adult things...
now run along and play...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; truly Eh179 you are a wank&#8230;you have no idead what your talking about, and no it&#8217;s not an attack on you for your different opinion..its cause your just full off doo doo and your extremely wrong extremley wrong&#8230;.no offence&#8230;.haha..<br />
stick to watching desperate houswives mate and let the true fans of f1 discuss adult things&#8230;<br />
now run along and play&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: eh179driver</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30962/ferrari-threatens-to-quit-f1-in-2010/#comment-132830</link>
		<dc:creator>eh179driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and another thing I forgt, with Ferrari, when they stuff up in a race, lets blame the drivers. Now we all know Raikonen couldent give a stuff anymore and just want the cash, but blaming Massa for running out of fuel??? Come on!! What does have to fuel it himself and put it on AMEX or something. Its just Ferrari going back to the bad old pre Todt days. They lost Todt and Brawn and are now just crap again. And I say yay to that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and another thing I forgt, with Ferrari, when they stuff up in a race, lets blame the drivers. Now we all know Raikonen couldent give a stuff anymore and just want the cash, but blaming Massa for running out of fuel??? Come on!! What does have to fuel it himself and put it on AMEX or something. Its just Ferrari going back to the bad old pre Todt days. They lost Todt and Brawn and are now just crap again. And I say yay to that!</p>
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		<title>By: eh179driver</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30962/ferrari-threatens-to-quit-f1-in-2010/#comment-132828</link>
		<dc:creator>eh179driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 22:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reckless1, you need to read what I wrote again. What I am saying is that I am sick of seeing Ferrari cheat and then when caught, not punished, or when punished, drag out the same old line, &quot;oh we are gonna quit&quot;. Yes other teams cheat. Honda was caught with illegal fule cells a couple of years ago. Toyota were caught in the WRC with illegal turbos. There are many other examples (Brock and Moffat with roller rockers in the old Group C days). But there is a common theme with the other examples. They all copped it on the chin, served out their penalties with dignity and moved on. However, with Ferrari it is the same old thing. Court proceedings and then when their backs are to the walls, &quot;oh were gonna quit&quot;. Well the sport is bigger than the individual so I say bugger off Ferrari.
As to some teams starting their own championship, go and try! All of the best circuits worldwide are contracted to Bernie, so we would have a second rate championship with second rate circuits. Formula 1 has the name and the history. The cost of setting up another championship would be massive. Bernie has the money via sponsorship and TV rights. Immagine Renault or BMW going to their bvoards. &quot;oh we know we are loosing billions and all that but can we please have a couple more to race cars that are totaly meaningless to our road cars so we can race on second rate old cicuits in a championship that nobody has ever heard of&quot;?
Yep I can see that working well.
trust me, it won&#039;t happen. Bernie will find a way to keep Reggie and the Prancing Horse (donkey) in F1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reckless1, you need to read what I wrote again. What I am saying is that I am sick of seeing Ferrari cheat and then when caught, not punished, or when punished, drag out the same old line, &#8220;oh we are gonna quit&#8221;. Yes other teams cheat. Honda was caught with illegal fule cells a couple of years ago. Toyota were caught in the WRC with illegal turbos. There are many other examples (Brock and Moffat with roller rockers in the old Group C days). But there is a common theme with the other examples. They all copped it on the chin, served out their penalties with dignity and moved on. However, with Ferrari it is the same old thing. Court proceedings and then when their backs are to the walls, &#8220;oh were gonna quit&#8221;. Well the sport is bigger than the individual so I say bugger off Ferrari.<br />
As to some teams starting their own championship, go and try! All of the best circuits worldwide are contracted to Bernie, so we would have a second rate championship with second rate circuits. Formula 1 has the name and the history. The cost of setting up another championship would be massive. Bernie has the money via sponsorship and TV rights. Immagine Renault or BMW going to their bvoards. &#8220;oh we know we are loosing billions and all that but can we please have a couple more to race cars that are totaly meaningless to our road cars so we can race on second rate old cicuits in a championship that nobody has ever heard of&#8221;?<br />
Yep I can see that working well.<br />
trust me, it won&#8217;t happen. Bernie will find a way to keep Reggie and the Prancing Horse (donkey) in F1.</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30962/ferrari-threatens-to-quit-f1-in-2010/#comment-132687</link>
		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 00:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep very true, as it turned out Lancia weren&#039;t far off getting out of the sport and Toyota cleaned up anyway with their finally legal Corolla&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep very true, as it turned out Lancia weren&#8217;t far off getting out of the sport and Toyota cleaned up anyway with their finally legal Corolla&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30962/ferrari-threatens-to-quit-f1-in-2010/#comment-132658</link>
		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 11:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richo

You certainly have some valid viewpoints about cheating in motorsport sport, dont forget that Toyota was stripped of it&#039;s World Rally Championship title in the early nineties after getting busted with illegal components with their Celica&#039;s.

Toyata were so sick of seeing Lancia clean up 6 Consecutive World Rally Championships in the Delta Integrale they had to cheat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richo</p>
<p>You certainly have some valid viewpoints about cheating in motorsport sport, dont forget that Toyota was stripped of it&#8217;s World Rally Championship title in the early nineties after getting busted with illegal components with their Celica&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Toyata were so sick of seeing Lancia clean up 6 Consecutive World Rally Championships in the Delta Integrale they had to cheat.</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30962/ferrari-threatens-to-quit-f1-in-2010/#comment-132646</link>
		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 09:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reckless1 - the drivers aren&#039;t cry babies, you won&#039;t find any more uncompromising drivers as Alonso, Hamilton, Webber, Massa, Raikonen when he is in the mood, did you see the Webber / Alonso move at the last GP? Wouldn&#039;t call that a crybaby move, its only the rules that have changed, the drivers attitudes haven&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reckless1 &#8211; the drivers aren&#8217;t cry babies, you won&#8217;t find any more uncompromising drivers as Alonso, Hamilton, Webber, Massa, Raikonen when he is in the mood, did you see the Webber / Alonso move at the last GP? Wouldn&#8217;t call that a crybaby move, its only the rules that have changed, the drivers attitudes haven&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 08:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to take some people seriously, when they accuse one team of being the only one to interpret the rules aggressively.  

As for singling out Shumi for agressive driving, well he was the last of the era where EVERY top driver including Senna, Jones, Prost, etc, etc regularly punted people off to change title results.  Men were men then, as the saying goes, now they are relative crybabies.

But for me, this makes me cringe &quot;......Toyota are a pathetic bunch of loosers as well.&quot;

What kind of loser can&#039;t tell the difference between lose and loose.  Clearly wasn&#039;t paying attention in English class.  Back in my days at school, nobody made spelling mistakes with 4 letter words......the shame of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to take some people seriously, when they accuse one team of being the only one to interpret the rules aggressively.  </p>
<p>As for singling out Shumi for agressive driving, well he was the last of the era where EVERY top driver including Senna, Jones, Prost, etc, etc regularly punted people off to change title results.  Men were men then, as the saying goes, now they are relative crybabies.</p>
<p>But for me, this makes me cringe &#8220;&#8230;&#8230;Toyota are a pathetic bunch of loosers as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>What kind of loser can&#8217;t tell the difference between lose and loose.  Clearly wasn&#8217;t paying attention in English class.  Back in my days at school, nobody made spelling mistakes with 4 letter words&#8230;&#8230;the shame of that.</p>
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