Comments on: Daewoo to be used as source for future Vauxhalls?

By: sean

sean — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:01:20 +0000

I remember when i went to europe in 1990 and i saw an opel and it just looked like the vn commordoor wagon but left hand drive the lights looked i little diffrent. I would like to see if someone has orded a vaxhall or chev baged holden in australia from the dealer if not someone should ask the dealer if they can when wanting a v8 commordoor here in australia or in new zealand

By: Jake02

Jake02 — Sat, 09 May 2009 23:50:54 +0000

Millatime, mate, no victimising everyone and “correcting” their comments is in-Australian, so therefore I’m not gonna call you mate. Firstly, at this point, the Astra is still on sale, therefore it’s part of Holden’s Opel range (with Combo). The Daewoo part was correct, but the Commodore is a Holden car because Holden developed the platform and GM liked what they saw and used it for more models (this is why the Chevy Camaro was developed here). The “Isuzu-copy” Colorado isn’t a copy but is the same car, just with a different nose.

I just don’t get how you can go on every post and try to correct everyone’s comments. People can say whatever they want, and it’s not your cutie to correct them. Get over it!

I’m not a Holden fan ( if you remember correctly, I own a Skoda Octavia RS which got heavy criticism from you on previous Skoda posts) and despite that I know their range backwards (and every other maker mind you that’s how much I love cars). So I think you’re wrong in a number of ways!

By: Shak

Shak — Tue, 05 May 2009 11:23:06 +0000

Millatime ur an idiot. The Commodore is built on a Holden developed platform and so are the Statey and Caprice. The Captiva, Epica, Barina and Viva are Daewoo. The Astra is a euro and the Colorado is still Isuzu. Lets hope GM dont go bankrupt just so we can rub it in your face. Get off your intelligence High horse.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Mon, 04 May 2009 23:49:55 +0000

Millatime, I know that GM no longer have interest in Isuzu but at the time of development of this vehicle, it was developed at a time where GM owned shares in the company and contributed to the Light Commercial Vehicle project by way of a joint venture between the two companies. While I acknowledge that it’s built by Isuzu, I’d hardly call this re-badging, as it was a joint venture. The phrase “re-badging” insinuates GM buying old designs it had no hand in, eg. Holden Apollo (Camry), Holden Viva (Lacetti).

Andrew M, the Rodeo/Colorado/D-Max is also sold as a Chevrolet. I know that the cars have parts that are stamped “Isuzu” but this is purely because they are manufactured by them. The vehicles were developed as part of the GM-Isuzu LCV joint venture.

By: Cupid Stunt

Cupid Stunt — Mon, 04 May 2009 21:23:46 +0000

Eeek not good news for Vauxhall. One less customer here although given what my vectra feels like after 100k’s they have lost me anyway.
Where would Opel fit in the UK if Vauxhall go Daewoo. My guess is another brand in the UK “Opel” selling better vehicles than Vauxhall.

Of course this article is all speculation by CA of course so my guess it will never happen.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Mon, 04 May 2009 11:44:58 +0000

You’re right Horse. I just referred to my Holden library and it appears that the original HB Torana was based on the Viva.. I knew it was based on a car from England/Europe; but I wasn’t sure what it was called.

However; just as they did with the Commodore; Holden went developed it even further to realise the full potential of the cars platform etc .. not only that but [overtime] they also improved the cars looks.

Coincidentally the name Torana is an Aboriignal word meaning “to fly” – which the LC LX and LH Torries do

By: Horse

Horse — Mon, 04 May 2009 11:22:48 +0000

Wasn’t the original Torana based on a english Vauxhal viva ?
I am pretty sure.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Mon, 04 May 2009 11:07:27 +0000

Horse I think you’re thinking about the Vauxhall Vilot.. which was about the same size as a Austin A30 from the 1930-40s and as far as I am aware was never used by Holden as the basis for any of their models..
The original Holden the FX has more in common with the 1940s Chevrolet/Buick sedan

The Viva however; is actually a Daewoo… and if it such a “legend” how come it only lasted 5 years?

By: Horse

Horse — Mon, 04 May 2009 10:42:46 +0000

Too right wheelnut, also the Rodeo is a aussie legend and
What about the torana, I mean english made cars are by far the most consistently crap quality ever made. but holden manged to make a aussie legend out of a Vaxhall Viva

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Mon, 04 May 2009 10:26:24 +0000

I know its very unliklely to happen.. but my point is that whilst GM still own Opel; they could decide to build Insignia’s at Holden in Adelaide [instead of the Cruze]
as well as the Opel Factory in Europe..

Then when they sell Opel there is virtually nothing the buyer of opel could do about stopping production of Insignias at Holden.. particularly if they were wearing Vauxhall badges.. despite the fact they look the smae and use the smae components etc