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	<title>Comments on: Ford Falcon Orion Spy Shots &#8211; Towing</title>
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		<title>By: Watto_Cobra</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3029/ford-falcon-orion-spy-shots-towing/comment-page-1/#comment-50139</link>
		<dc:creator>Watto_Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No idea Duck. I would think so, since Commodore seemed to be used for towing as much as Falcons.

The older Commo&#039;s with the older IRS tended to have probs with towing. A friend towed a fully-laden trailer (with a VR) from Adelaide back to here (Albury) and his near-new rear tyres were scrubbed out after the trip.

Is the VE better than the older models for towing? I don&#039;t know, I haven&#039;t read anywhere of anyone testing that one trait which is important for a lot of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No idea Duck. I would think so, since Commodore seemed to be used for towing as much as Falcons.</p>
<p>The older Commo&#8217;s with the older IRS tended to have probs with towing. A friend towed a fully-laden trailer (with a VR) from Adelaide back to here (Albury) and his near-new rear tyres were scrubbed out after the trip.</p>
<p>Is the VE better than the older models for towing? I don&#8217;t know, I haven&#8217;t read anywhere of anyone testing that one trait which is important for a lot of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3029/ford-falcon-orion-spy-shots-towing/comment-page-1/#comment-50000</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did HOLDEN do towing tests with the VE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did HOLDEN do towing tests with the VE?</p>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seen the new Falcon today driving along Horseshoebend Road, Torquay at about 1030am. There where two cars following it and one in front of it. Its a great way to get everybodys attention as it did for me. Great camoflauge they use on it but the FORD badges stood out. I bet they be takin it on the Great Ocean road to give it a good run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seen the new Falcon today driving along Horseshoebend Road, Torquay at about 1030am. There where two cars following it and one in front of it. Its a great way to get everybodys attention as it did for me. Great camoflauge they use on it but the FORD badges stood out. I bet they be takin it on the Great Ocean road to give it a good run.</p>
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		<title>By: Ford Falcon Spyshots Overview &#38;raquo Australian Car Advice &#124; News Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ford Falcon Spyshots Overview &#38;raquo Australian Car Advice &#124; News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2008 Ford Falcon towing 4th of June [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Watto_Cobra</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3029/ford-falcon-orion-spy-shots-towing/comment-page-1/#comment-31695</link>
		<dc:creator>Watto_Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That makes sense. Thanks for the info IceB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes sense. Thanks for the info IceB.</p>
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		<title>By: IceB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IceB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a long-used drivetrain testing rig, not so much a tow test rig.
  The vertical panel is a wind brake, tests cooling systems primarily, with the drivetrain load capacity as a secondary test. Nothing should come anywhere near overheat or breakage..
  Cheers
   IceB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a long-used drivetrain testing rig, not so much a tow test rig.<br />
  The vertical panel is a wind brake, tests cooling systems primarily, with the drivetrain load capacity as a secondary test. Nothing should come anywhere near overheat or breakage..<br />
  Cheers<br />
   IceB</p>
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		<title>By: Me.</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3029/ford-falcon-orion-spy-shots-towing/comment-page-1/#comment-30457</link>
		<dc:creator>Me.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t realy care how its weighs. As long as the Orion does not put on more than 100kg than the current one, but 100kg less than the BF would be allright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t realy care how its weighs. As long as the Orion does not put on more than 100kg than the current one, but 100kg less than the BF would be allright.</p>
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		<title>By: watto_cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>watto_cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be happy with that. More power in almost all variants is practically a given. If they can achieve a small weight saving as well, that&#039;d give it more than a decent kick into a new model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be happy with that. More power in almost all variants is practically a given. If they can achieve a small weight saving as well, that&#8217;d give it more than a decent kick into a new model.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paul,
yep no way it will lose 300kgs
i hear they are working on cutting some weight so i reckon the most it would lose would be 100kgs. then you add extra features (airbags etc) and it would be 50kgs lighter than BF absolute max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paul,<br />
yep no way it will lose 300kgs<br />
i hear they are working on cutting some weight so i reckon the most it would lose would be 100kgs. then you add extra features (airbags etc) and it would be 50kgs lighter than BF absolute max</p>
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		<title>By: Toyota Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toyota Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youd think the Orion will be abit heavier if anything with extra airbags and that... now way is it goinng to get 300kg lighter, that is fundamentally impossible unless the car comes with no features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youd think the Orion will be abit heavier if anything with extra airbags and that&#8230; now way is it goinng to get 300kg lighter, that is fundamentally impossible unless the car comes with no features.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3029/ford-falcon-orion-spy-shots-towing/comment-page-1/#comment-29971</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a 4cyl camry is only 200kgs lighter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a 4cyl camry is only 200kgs lighter</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>300kgs lighter????
tell em their dreaming.
that would put it lighter than mid sized cars.
yet i bet they still want everything in it to. pffffft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>300kgs lighter????<br />
tell em their dreaming.<br />
that would put it lighter than mid sized cars.<br />
yet i bet they still want everything in it to. pffffft</p>
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		<title>By: Me.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people want the Orion to be more than 300kg lighter.

Maybe because they don&#039;t want it to be more than the BF, which I don&#039;t want too and its verry unlikely, 100kg more should not matter with performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people want the Orion to be more than 300kg lighter.</p>
<p>Maybe because they don&#8217;t want it to be more than the BF, which I don&#8217;t want too and its verry unlikely, 100kg more should not matter with performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me,
the EB was 300kgs lighter!!!! yet it was a great tower. it shows there is still plenty of good stuff in the falcon suited to towing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me,<br />
the EB was 300kgs lighter!!!! yet it was a great tower. it shows there is still plenty of good stuff in the falcon suited to towing</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me,
 we are only talking like 100kgs or so so i doubt it would affect it much. the chassis and drive train would stay the same though i guess.
and id reckon (with out looking)
that the EB is lighter than the BF to start with</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me,<br />
 we are only talking like 100kgs or so so i doubt it would affect it much. the chassis and drive train would stay the same though i guess.<br />
and id reckon (with out looking)<br />
that the EB is lighter than the BF to start with</p>
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		<title>By: Me.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people want the Orion to be verry light, but that means the Falcon can&#039;t tow as much as they reknowin for.
Maybe they should have the FPVs lighter only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people want the Orion to be verry light, but that means the Falcon can&#8217;t tow as much as they reknowin for.<br />
Maybe they should have the FPVs lighter only.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3029/ford-falcon-orion-spy-shots-towing/comment-page-1/#comment-29946</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: watto_cobra</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3029/ford-falcon-orion-spy-shots-towing/comment-page-1/#comment-29933</link>
		<dc:creator>watto_cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I towed an 8x5 tandem trailer today with over a ton on it, in my trusty old EB (my daily hack). I&#039;m reminded again of how good Falcons are for towing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I towed an 8&#215;5 tandem trailer today with over a ton on it, in my trusty old EB (my daily hack). I&#8217;m reminded again of how good Falcons are for towing.</p>
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		<title>By: gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry its leftlanenews.com..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry its leftlanenews.com..</p>
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		<title>By: gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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